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Bikes, Hints'n'Tips => FZS600 Fazer => Topic started by: Young rider on 19 April 2013, 08:51:59 pm

Title: HELP NEEDED
Post by: Young rider on 19 April 2013, 08:51:59 pm

went to take my exhaust off as they needed someone tlc and i manage to snap one of the bolts off.[/size]is there anyway or anyone who can help get it out? :( :( :(

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Title: Re: HELP NEEDED
Post by: Dead Eye on 19 April 2013, 09:39:52 pm
Nasty, its one of the awkward ones as well... cylinder 2 is an absolute b!t*h compared to the others...

Best bet is a decent stud remover - with the radiator off (and maybe the forks + front wheel) you may be able to get to it. Otherwise its either engine out or head off...

I'd help out, as I had to do this myself earlier this year but I'm nowhere near you :(
Title: Re: HELP NEEDED
Post by: Young rider on 19 April 2013, 10:38:55 pm
Nasty, its one of the awkward ones as well... cylinder 2 is an absolute b!t*h compared to the others...

Best bet is a decent stud remover - with the radiator off (and maybe the forks + front wheel) you may be able to get to it. Otherwise its either engine out or head off...

I'd help out, as I had to do this myself earlier this year but I'm nowhere near you :(


Do you think welding a nut too it and spraying wd40 on it, as the heat should be able to loosen it? 
Title: Re: HELP NEEDED
Post by: richfzs on 19 April 2013, 11:43:55 pm
Not wd40, as it's not penetrating fluid. Use either plus gas, or one of the other proper penetrating products out there

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Title: Re: HELP NEEDED
Post by: Young rider on 19 April 2013, 11:50:45 pm
I'm gonna buy the extraction tool tomorrow see if that moves it. Don't wanna cause more damage.
Title: Re: HELP NEEDED
Post by: Fazerider on 20 April 2013, 12:37:07 am
Heat is often useful, the aluminium expands more than steel and loosens its grip, but the heat from welding a nut on would be a bit extreme and risks cracking the casting. A hot air gun and penetrating fluid should help though.
Title: Re: HELP NEEDED
Post by: Dead Eye on 20 April 2013, 01:04:44 am
I'm gonna buy the extraction tool tomorrow see if that moves it. Don't wanna cause more damage.


In that case I would really recommend you get a set like this;

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Laser-4393-Impact-Stud-Extractor/dp/B001DYRDU2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1366416058&sr=8-1&keywords=laser+stud+extractor (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Laser-4393-Impact-Stud-Extractor/dp/B001DYRDU2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1366416058&sr=8-1&keywords=laser+stud+extractor)

I bought a set of fixed size stud extractors that are supposed to tighten on to the stud as you turn them, but they were useless. The above set from Amazon is what I bought :)

You want something that has minimum range below 6mm. The stud is 6mm and the 3/8" one starts at 6mm so its hard for it get a very good tight grip but I found it very hard to find the 1/4" one on its own. On top of this, I used a impact driver to loosen the stud before using a socket wrench to finally get the studs out.

I got my Impact Driver from Halfords;

http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_530655_langId_-1_categoryId_165572 (http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_530655_langId_-1_categoryId_165572)
Title: Re: HELP NEEDED
Post by: Young rider on 20 April 2013, 10:24:14 pm
All fixed with a help of a stud extractor and a heat. Manage to enjoy some of the sun today  :D
Title: Re: HELP NEEDED
Post by: Chris on 20 April 2013, 11:04:21 pm
Glad you got it sorted without having to take the engine/head out.  8)
 
Chris
Title: Re: HELP NEEDED
Post by: Young rider on 20 April 2013, 11:41:48 pm
Glad you got it sorted without having to take the engine/head out.  8)
 
Chris


yes same here as that would off been a big job to doo!


also thanks to dead eye for your help and advice :)
Title: Re: HELP NEEDED
Post by: Dead Eye on 21 April 2013, 12:15:58 am
You're more than welcome :) Glad to hear you had good results - my studs were so bad that 7 snapped of which 2 of those snapped again but flush with the head.

The engine out isn't the hardest thing in the world, but it does take time. Got mine out in a day and reassembled in one more day - took me a month or so to do the gearbox swap on my cage :|
Title: Re: HELP NEEDED
Post by: packie on 21 April 2013, 01:38:04 am
Not wd40, as it's not penetrating fluid.


http://wd40.com/uses-tips/ (http://wd40.com/uses-tips/)

WD-40 loosens and penetrates rusted or stuck bolts and plumbing joints
Title: Re: HELP NEEDED
Post by: richfzs on 21 April 2013, 02:58:28 am
well packie, I grant it's better than water. But if it was actually any fuckign good as a penetrating oil, I guess they wouldn't have to make a real penetrating oil, huh?

http://www.wd40specialist.com/products/penetrating-oil/ (http://www.wd40specialist.com/products/penetrating-oil/)


Title: Re: HELP NEEDED
Post by: Jimmygixxer on 21 April 2013, 03:11:40 pm
WD40 sucks balls.
Last resort stuff
Title: Re: HELP NEEDED
Post by: simonm on 22 April 2013, 10:43:29 am
WD40 sucks balls.


I would have thought that would make it good ?  :evil ;)