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ffffing diesil spills
« on: 13 June 2012, 09:23:27 am »
Well it's raining again and diesil spills are brewing there ugly heads again went round 4 different roundabouts this morn and half of it was covered in spillage wish I knew who it was as I give them a polite talking to best thing there was no petrol station within 5 miles so god knows where theve filled up to spill so much

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Re: ffffing diesil spills
« Reply #1 on: 13 June 2012, 11:43:36 am »
I hear you man. This is me yesterday!!


I nearly drop my new bike . . . . . .

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Re: ffffing diesil spills
« Reply #2 on: 13 June 2012, 12:06:29 pm »
Oooops nice skid mark in ya pants now

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Re: ffffing diesil spills
« Reply #3 on: 13 June 2012, 01:54:38 pm »
Diesel spills are there even when you can't see 'em!

You should try the roundabout near me - five exits - two have petrol stations on and two have industrial estates and there is one pillock with no fuel cap who covers the road in diesel every couple of weeks.

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Re: ffffing diesil spills
« Reply #4 on: 13 June 2012, 05:56:15 pm »
Diesel spills are there even when you can't see 'em!
 

Or smell them. I was going around a series of bends when the front end shimmy was accompanied by a whiff of diesel.

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Re: ffffing diesil spills
« Reply #5 on: 13 June 2012, 11:17:08 pm »
Before now I ve traveled the 7 miles home from work, long runs of diesel all the way of the dual carriage way and down through the village in and out of the bus stops too. I guess bus drivers do not pay for the diesel in the buses.

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Re: ffffing diesil spills
« Reply #6 on: 13 June 2012, 11:29:42 pm »
How the foc does diesel get out of the vehicles, and on to the road??


I might go and start collecting it. It's lots of money a litre don't you know . . . . .

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Re: ffffing diesil spills
« Reply #7 on: 14 June 2012, 12:01:17 am »
How the foc does diesel get out of the vehicles, and on to the road??

Usually by idiots "brimming" their tanks, often combined with caps that aren't secured properly (or put on at all) :(

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Re: ffffing diesil spills
« Reply #8 on: 14 June 2012, 11:03:19 am »
How the foc does diesel get out of the vehicles, and on to the road??

Usually by idiots "brimming" their tanks, often combined with caps that aren't secured properly (or put on at all) :(


I really do not understand how people can be that stupid. Is it a criminal offence?? It should be, if police stop someone, and check the cap and it's open, 3 points (or more) and a fine!!




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Re: ffffing diesil spills
« Reply #9 on: 14 June 2012, 02:10:08 pm »
I drive a truck and have been issued with a nice shiny new 12 plate. It has a springy flap just under the cap so if the cap is left off it will restrict the loss, I couldn't gaurentee it would stop it all and I hope I never find out.

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Re: ffffing diesil spills
« Reply #10 on: 14 June 2012, 09:20:28 pm »
I drive a truck and have been issued with a nice shiny new 12 plate. It has a springy flap just under the cap so if the cap is left off it will restrict the loss, I couldn't gaurentee it would stop it all and I hope I never find out.

The caps should be like the ones on cars where you can't take the keys out until it's securely locked in place! That will stop idiots driving off without replacing them securely.

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Re: ffffing diesil spills
« Reply #11 on: 14 June 2012, 09:41:25 pm »
The caps should be like the ones on cars where you can't take the keys out until it's securely locked in place! That will stop idiots driving off without replacing them securely.

You underestimate peoples ingenuity when it comes to screwing up the unscrewup-able ;)

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Re: ffffing diesil spills
« Reply #12 on: 15 June 2012, 02:18:36 am »
You underestimate peoples ingenuity when it comes to screwing up the unscrewup-able ;)

"It is impossible to make any system entirely fool-proof because fools are so ingenious..."

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« Reply #13 on: 15 June 2012, 02:48:21 pm »
Should anyone care to know I have done some research . . . .




A lockable, correctly fitted fuel filler cap is a requirement of the highways code and is necessary to pass a MOT test.If the police spot a vehicle without a fuel cap, or with a damaged fuel cap, this would constitute driving a vehicle in a dangerous condition, which would incur a three points penalty on their license and a fine of up to £5k for LGVs. If the perpetrator committed the offence within 3 years of a previous conviction for the same offence they would be banned from driving for six months.Any evidence that you have of drivers breaking these rules should be reported to the police.

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Re: ffffing diesil spills
« Reply #14 on: 15 June 2012, 06:08:44 pm »
Should anyone care to know I have done some research . . . .

Interesting, where did you find that?

I've had a look myself and although it says there should be a locking fuel cap, I've not found if there's exemptions for either older vehicles or eg foreign vans etc.

I do know that I've seen a diesel trail running around three quarters of a (very large) roundabout and I don't see how that could have happened without a faulty/ missing cap.

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« Reply #15 on: 15 June 2012, 07:37:22 pm »
Should anyone care to know I have done some research . . . .

Interesting, where did you find that?




I asked my MP!! Can you believe it, they responded pretty quickly. I was impressed!!


I still don't trust them though . . . . .

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Re: ffffing diesil spills
« Reply #16 on: 16 June 2012, 05:43:15 pm »
No point making the filler cap idiot proof - as soon as you do that they'll come up with a better idiot.

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Re: ffffing diesil spills
« Reply #17 on: 16 June 2012, 10:21:44 pm »
I asked my MP!! Can you believe it, they responded pretty quickly. I was impressed!!

Blimey, that is impressive :)

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I still don't trust them though . . . . .

Locking fuel caps or MPs? :pokefun

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« Reply #18 on: 17 June 2012, 05:14:58 pm »
I asked my MP!! Can you believe it, they responded pretty quickly. I was impressed!!

Blimey, that is impressive :)

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I still don't trust them though . . . . .

Locking fuel caps or MPs? :pokefun


BOTH!!!

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Re: ffffing diesil spills
« Reply #19 on: 21 June 2012, 09:34:56 am »
when you find a spill report it to the local council, fine if you're local but not very productive when passing through I know. councils have a duty of care and will take steps to clean it up when reported, may even help you if you then have a spill later and no clean up has been completed
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Re: ffffing diesil spills
« Reply #20 on: 21 June 2012, 02:26:27 pm »
Should anyone care to know I have done some research . . . .

Interesting, where did you find that?

I've had a look myself and although it says there should be a locking fuel cap, I've not found if there's exemptions for either older vehicles or eg foreign vans etc.

I do know that I've seen a diesel trail running around three quarters of a (very large) roundabout and I don't see how that could have happened without a faulty/ missing cap.
I ride into work every day down the A11, from the A12 to the big roundabout type thing at Aldgate, about 3 miles... when it's wet there's almost always a continuous trail (not just spots) of oil/diesel down the road  :\   I don't understand how you can drop that much oil or diesel and not know about it.

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Re: ffffing diesil spills
« Reply #21 on: 21 June 2012, 03:49:11 pm »
its mostly trucks and buses thqat spill where they the driver dont have to pay for the fuel fill up too much overspill on top of tank then when there moving spillage on roundabouts :lol

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« Reply #22 on: 21 June 2012, 05:11:17 pm »
I have a hard time understanding these diesel spills. Like Lawrence just said, it's not the odd splashes, but long continuous wide trails of the stuff down straight roads (not a roundabout in sight) that you can only avoid by riding at the very edge of the road or riding on the wrong side of the road.

This "type" of spillage seems to be far more common these days.

What's going on? I just don't get it!


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« Reply #23 on: 21 June 2012, 05:30:52 pm »
when you find a spill report it to the local council

If it's in a position where it's going to be hazardous to someone (ie a biker could come off on it) I have no qualms about phoning 999 and telling the Police as I've done when I saw a spill around three-quarters of a roundabout down here in Portsmouth.

By the time I went back that way (about an hour later) it had been cleaned up, something which I doubt would have happened had I phoned the Council...

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« Reply #24 on: 21 June 2012, 05:53:30 pm »
I have a hard time understanding these diesel spills. Like Lawrence just said, it's not the odd splashes, but long continuous wide trails of the stuff down straight roads (not a roundabout in sight) that you can only avoid by riding at the very edge of the road or riding on the wrong side of the road.

This "type" of spillage seems to be far more common these days.

What's going on? I just don't get it!






To add my tuppence ha'penny worth to this, a lot of modern diesel cars use the HDI engines, they have a fuel pump in the tank which feeds the rail system in the engine bay, if anything goes wrong in the fuel system eg leaking pipe or poorly fitted filter this pump forces the fuel out under pressure and drops a lot more fuel than the old lift pump on the engine system.

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