Arrest the 3000 known Jihadists fit it a small explosive charge inserted by their carotid artery , that detonated when they walk out the front door , no need for soldiers on the streets , deportation or POW camps.
Quote from: BBROWN1664 on 25 May 2017, 06:13:16 pmThere was a post I saw on faceache today.It took days for laws to be changed to make Kodi box type devices illegal to use in the way that most people use them but its taken years to get nowhere with preventing known (or suspected) terrorists from coming into the country.That's because greedy fat cat corporations were losing out on millions of pounds worth of revenue, much more Important than innocent lives.My problem with the reposonse to all these 'terrorists' attacks is that having armed guards/soldiers would have not changed a thing about what happened Monday night. It wouldn't have mattered if they had tanks parked either side of the entrance, wouldn't have mattered if they had metal detectors on the doors, NOTHING would have stopped that asshat doing what he was gonna do. Putting the army on the streets does nothing more than intimidate the innocent and help keep US in check.A suicide bomber has already come to terms with the fact they are gonna die so they aren't gonna be bothered who's got a gun as long as they can press their button.Not to get all tinfoil hat on you but it does seem like there's a higher agenda here. Much like in America after 9/11 they pushed through massive amounts of laws that stripped people of their privacy in the name of keeping the country safe.They've already started here with the snoopers charter. What's next though? How long before we all have to carry ID? How long before you have to be searched before entering shopping centers/schools/libraries etc? Before your privacy is taken away in the name of 'security'? The harsh truth is 'terrorism' is very good for governments when they have an agenda to push.And on a final note, The truest words I've heard from a celebrity in my life, I've never thought much of Morrissey but this time he's bang on.......
There was a post I saw on faceache today.It took days for laws to be changed to make Kodi box type devices illegal to use in the way that most people use them but its taken years to get nowhere with preventing known (or suspected) terrorists from coming into the country.
Quote from: Dudeofrude on 25 May 2017, 07:09:48 pmQuote from: BBROWN1664 on 25 May 2017, 06:13:16 pmThere was a post I saw on faceache today.It took days for laws to be changed to make Kodi box type devices illegal to use in the way that most people use them but its taken years to get nowhere with preventing known (or suspected) terrorists from coming into the country.That's because greedy fat cat corporations were losing out on millions of pounds worth of revenue, much more Important than innocent lives.My problem with the reposonse to all these 'terrorists' attacks is that having armed guards/soldiers would have not changed a thing about what happened Monday night. It wouldn't have mattered if they had tanks parked either side of the entrance, wouldn't have mattered if they had metal detectors on the doors, NOTHING would have stopped that asshat doing what he was gonna do. Putting the army on the streets does nothing more than intimidate the innocent and help keep US in check.A suicide bomber has already come to terms with the fact they are gonna die so they aren't gonna be bothered who's got a gun as long as they can press their button.Not to get all tinfoil hat on you but it does seem like there's a higher agenda here. Much like in America after 9/11 they pushed through massive amounts of laws that stripped people of their privacy in the name of keeping the country safe.They've already started here with the snoopers charter. What's next though? How long before we all have to carry ID? How long before you have to be searched before entering shopping centers/schools/libraries etc? Before your privacy is taken away in the name of 'security'? The harsh truth is 'terrorism' is very good for governments when they have an agenda to push.And on a final note, The truest words I've heard from a celebrity in my life, I've never thought much of Morrissey but this time he's bang on....... What is your objection to carrying an identity card? also what is your objection to being searched before entering a Shop or Sports venue Etc! We had to live with it in N Ireland for 30 years plus during the troubles. Anyone who does object to carrying an TD card must have something to hide, Also if searched before entering a shopping centre surely the 15 seconds wasted of your life would only make your shopping experience better knowing that you may jst be a little bit safer to enjoy your day.
What is your objection to carrying an identity card? also what is your objection to being searched before entering a Shop or Sports venue Etc! We had to live with it in N Ireland for 30 years plus during the troubles. Anyone who does object to carrying an TD card must have something to hide, Also if searched before entering a shopping centre surely the 15 seconds wasted of your life would only make your shopping experience better knowing that you may jst be a little bit safer to enjoy your day.
Putting the army on the streets does nothing more than intimidate the innocent and help keep US in check.
Quote from: Dudeofrude on 25 May 2017, 07:09:48 pm Putting the army on the streets does nothing more than intimidate the innocent and help keep US in check.Not that I think that it's good thing that our lords and masters feel it has come to this, but why are you intimidated by our soldiers?Can't see how it stops these nutters though. Although the point is being made that they are only being used at static facilities to free up other policing resources for the streets. Which is a finger pointed squarely at those who have cut resources and manpower down to the bone.
But why are these things happenin?
What would you do?
It’s simple hedgetrimmer.I don’t believe in killing people. I believe in peace and justice for all.
So why can't we strike first, deporting any non UK born suspects for starters, regardless of their claims that their own homeland is dangerous for them (not our fault), and detain the others under terrorism laws, and see if the threat suddenly subsides.
and see if the threat suddenly subsides.
If we can supposedly put a number on highly threatening jihadists in the UK, then surely that means we know who and where they are doesn't it?So why can't we strike first, deporting any non UK born suspects for starters, regardless of their claims that their own homeland is dangerous for them (not our fault), and detain the others under terrorism laws, and see if the threat suddenly subsides.Meanwhile, when we see dubious looking people at our borders with suspicious amounts of stamps on their passports fling in from known threatening countries, then if they're not born here tell them to fuck right off and bar them for life, and if they are born here then detain them and question them over suspected terrorist activity.The PC brigade will whinge like mad, but rather them than us having to deal with the aftermath of a bomb blowing up completely innocent people at a pop concert for example. We've gotta start somewhere, and it sounds like a reasonable plan to me.
When we finally brexit proper
European Court of Human rights overruling all our efforts.
We need our own Guantanamo bay, maybe we could use the Falklands, stopping them at the border is what Trump
Libya we opened our doors to him and gave him refuge, then we helped destroy his enemy and we are repaid by his son murdering people of the very nation that was his savour.
Also corbin saying they shall not win on one hand and then on the other saying he will alter our foreign policy when that is exactly what they want