https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwj1hcixqIXUAhUKPBQKHRMgA3wQqUMIMTAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theguardian.com%2Fuk-news%2Flive%2F2017%2Fmay%2F22%2Fmanchester-arena-ariana-grande-concert-explosion-england&usg=AFQjCNEJG9wOQxPRHX2osROmHzst-37k_w&sig2=F35fIbUBiy_U15OnG8S4tgWe need to really ask ourselves if religion has a place in the 21st century
It's not a "possible" terror attack, it was a scumbag suicide bomber, loaded with bolts and screws, who at least fortunately died in the process.
What more can you say? It makes you sick to your stomach to think that a human being can bring about such horrific injuries to another, as Darrsi said most likely a shrapnel type bomb designed not just to kill in the local explosion zone but to send out pieces of red hot metal like bullets in every direction causing as much harm as possible. Why there are violent acts like this I will never understand, but it seems to be people trying to force their will over others, this is not converting anyone to your way of thinking or belief system it is mindless murder. To what gain? I have yet to understand. Thoughts and prayers to those who have lost loved ones and those who are injured.We have recently had a post on foc-u about Brady the moors murderer, this bastard in Manchester last night took many more lives than he did, both I feel both have now got what they deserved.I don't think many will mourn either of their passing. My family and I are all off to the USA this coming Monday to visit my son in St Louis, Missouri, my wife is now all figity about flying.I heard someone say that there is no such thing as a hoax bomb scare, the bomb my be a hoax but the scare is just the same for those involved, terror.
Absolutely sickening and to achieve what purpose?All these attacks do is heighten fear & tension between citizens of whatever religious/political persuasion they happen to believe to be right. I have no time for religion(man made designed to control people) but I do know that the main tenet of all major religions is "Love your neighbour as yourself" or words to that effect.What can be more inhumane & hypocritical than to maim, torture & destroy other lives in the name of some god or belief system? We have been doing it to another since time began.Cant help thinking that British "action" in collaboration with the USA against other countries which involved what they euphemistically term "collateral damage" has increased the threat of reprisals here in the UK as in Paris etc.I believe also that the people responsible for a lot of this hatred including Tony Blair should have been made accountable through the courts for what was an illegal war. The problem remains that a lot of money is made by the armaments industry who obviously have a vested interest in continuing strife around the world.That bomb attack could so easily have happened in my home city-I have grandaughters the same age as some of those innocent children killed & maimed in Manchester.
Enough is enough forget Syria forget Afghanistan forget the Middle East it's time we shut our borders and redeploy the troops to seek out the enemy within our own community's my heart goes out to the families who have lost someone or have been injured at Manchester Arena
Quote from: Dave48 on 23 May 2017, 05:36:39 pmAbsolutely sickening and to achieve what purpose?All these attacks do is heighten fear & tension between citizens of whatever religious/political persuasion they happen to believe to be right. I have no time for religion(man made designed to control people) but I do know that the main tenet of all major religions is "Love your neighbour as yourself" or words to that effect.What can be more inhumane & hypocritical than to maim, torture & destroy other lives in the name of some god or belief system? We have been doing it to another since time began.Cant help thinking that British "action" in collaboration with the USA against other countries which involved what they euphemistically term "collateral damage" has increased the threat of reprisals here in the UK as in Paris etc.I believe also that the people responsible for a lot of this hatred including Tony Blair should have been made accountable through the courts for what was an illegal war. The problem remains that a lot of money is made by the armaments industry who obviously have a vested interest in continuing strife around the world.That bomb attack could so easily have happened in my home city-I have grandaughters the same age as some of those innocent children killed & maimed in Manchester.Please tell why Tony Blair ?why not Thatcher why not also mention Cameron, getting tiring now blaming Blair for everything.Thatcher & Major first gulf war. Cameron assisted in the removal of Gaddfi which as we all know has lead to the mass influx of Africans deciding to have a Mediterranean cruise,and holiday in Italy.
Quote from: fazersharp on 23 May 2017, 10:41:50 pmQuote from: Townhill on 23 May 2017, 07:06:41 pmEnough is enough forget Syria forget Afghanistan forget the Middle East it's time we shut our borders and redeploy the troops to seek out the enemy within our own community's my heart goes out to the families who have lost someone or have been injured at Manchester ArenaSeems like you have got part of your wish - the threat level has been raised to severe and in doing so has released armed troops on the streets. All we need to do now is get proper full control of our borders - immigration and asylum but wait - the british public have already said that is what they want, forget the silly scaremongering about voting for more austerity and less workers rights because this threat unlike those is real and if less rights and more austerity is the price to pay then I will gladly pay it - rather pay with £ than with blood.Each to their own just saying!
Quote from: Townhill on 23 May 2017, 07:06:41 pmEnough is enough forget Syria forget Afghanistan forget the Middle East it's time we shut our borders and redeploy the troops to seek out the enemy within our own community's my heart goes out to the families who have lost someone or have been injured at Manchester ArenaSeems like you have got part of your wish - the threat level has been raised to severe and in doing so has released armed troops on the streets. All we need to do now is get proper full control of our borders - immigration and asylum but wait - the british public have already said that is what they want, forget the silly scaremongering about voting for more austerity and less workers rights because this threat unlike those is real and if less rights and more austerity is the price to pay then I will gladly pay it - rather pay with £ than with blood.
Quote from: lew600fazer on 23 May 2017, 10:24:43 pmQuote from: Dave48 on 23 May 2017, 05:36:39 pmAbsolutely sickening and to achieve what purpose?All these attacks do is heighten fear & tension between citizens of whatever religious/political persuasion they happen to believe to be right. I have no time for religion(man made designed to control people) but I do know that the main tenet of all major religions is "Love your neighbour as yourself" or words to that effect.What can be more inhumane & hypocritical than to maim, torture & destroy other lives in the name of some god or belief system? We have been doing it to another since time began.Cant help thinking that British "action" in collaboration with the USA against other countries which involved what they euphemistically term "collateral damage" has increased the threat of reprisals here in the UK as in Paris etc.I believe also that the people responsible for a lot of this hatred including Tony Blair should have been made accountable through the courts for what was an illegal war. The problem remains that a lot of money is made by the armaments industry who obviously have a vested interest in continuing strife around the world.That bomb attack could so easily have happened in my home city-I have grandaughters the same age as some of those innocent children killed & maimed in Manchester.Please tell why Tony Blair ?why not Thatcher why not also mention Cameron, getting tiring now blaming Blair for everything.Thatcher & Major first gulf war. Cameron assisted in the removal of Gaddfi which as we all know has lead to the mass influx of Africans deciding to have a Mediterranean cruise,and holiday in Italy.Lew I said "the people responsible".... of course this list would have to include those you mention. Perhaps Blair is top of my list since he picks up megabucks as a "f*****g PEACE ENVOY"! FFS
There was a post I saw on faceache today.It took days for laws to be changed to make Kodi box type devices illegal to use in the way that most people use them but its taken years to get nowhere with preventing known (or suspected) terrorists from coming into the country.