I have had some bikes with a lot of mods over the years and I have learned the hard way that you are wasting your time trying to explain mods to your average insurance call centre gibbon. What I do these days is get my quotes from the comparison sites, pick the cheapest two or three for the levels of cover you want. Then email them a list of mods and ask them if they can still do the same price. Otherwise you end up trying to explain why you would change a perfectly good standard clutch for a slipper clutch or the benefits of carbon wheels for hours to someone that doesnt really understand or care and just wants to tick boxes and get commission.


Back in the day (2006 ish) I had a crash on a heavily modified fireblade which went to insurance. I wanted to buy the bike back because the bits on it (undeclared) probably doubled the value of the bike. The insuance assessor didnt give a monkeys about any non standard parts all he was interested in was if any of the damage would have made the standard bike uneconomical to repair. He decided that a tiny scuff on the swinging arm would qualify it as a write off and was happy to get me a payout and let me buy the bike back for next to nothing.

re-attached the photo for you fella, youi should consider removing the Nitron shock and selling that separately on here.

Thank you. I put the bike on ebay today, priced at £3750. If the bike goes without the shock I will list it on here. I also have an absolutely mint set of R1 forks (2001) to fit the blue spot calipers. I got them rebuilt with new seals and oil in 2016 as I was planning on an upside down front conversion but never sourced a suitable headstock. I will dig them out and list them in case anybody is looking.

Having a moment of weakness and considering the sale of my mint Gen 1 Fazer.


This is the Grey / Black parallel import colour scheme supplied new by Tazz Peterborough. It is fully power model with the black painted
engine.

• 11,000 miles only from new. FSH plus every MOT since new to prove mileage. Must be the lowest mileage bike available.
• Current MOT until May 21 / Sorn.
• In addition to servicing the bike has had:
• 2015 Ivans Jet Kit / foam filter  /Full Monty fitted by the forum member who comes over from Spain, Mike?
• 2015 Front forks rebuilt at Tagg racing with 9.5 K Tech springs and Ohlins oil
• 2015 Front and back brake service at Tagg racing, rebuilt calipers and new pads all round
• 2020 Exup valve service at ANC motorcycles
• BT091 EVO tyres
• New Battery 2020
• Bike can be viewed in Maidstone Kent.

Extras:

• Renthal 758 bars
• Oxford Heated Grips
• R&G Bar ends
• Adjustable Pazzo levers
• GPR Titanium End Can
• Nitron rear shock with remote rear reservoir

All standard parts will be supplied with the bike, excellent Condition, HPI  clear. I am the second owner and have owned the bike since 2014. Only reason for sale is that I am working in London this year and have bought a Tracer 900 GT. Price is a firm £3750 for everything or £3500 without the end can and Nitron rear shock.


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Dont know if he is legit, I reckon he is on drugs. Personally, I would never buy a bike with even 4 owners but some folk do.


If I were advertising one I would be trying to emphasise my personal connection with it, mods I had made and talking about my experiences with it.


I dont want an advert that is a typed out HPI report I will be getting my own HPI report before I part with any cash.

 I have been on two test rides of the Tracer it is the first jap bike I have been interested in for 5 years plus. My circumstances are a little unusual as I have a Superduke R for hooning around on and a Fazer 1000 Gen 1 for commuting and touring. I dont want to part with either bike so it is a case of buying another bike that can justify its place alongside them.


The Superduke is good fun on twisty roads and for blasting around country roads with my mates. However it is too uncomfortable to ride more than a hour at a time.


The fazer is a brilliant do anything bike but it is a touch heavy and lacks a little braking when really getting a move on. Plus it feels a little long in the tooth, it isnt but analogue clocks and right way up forks date it somewhat.


I tried a KTM990 SMT which was great but too much like the Superduke. Then tried a Triumph Tiger and Sprint 1050 which were nice to ride but felt heavy and poor build quality. A Z1000SX too vibey. A S1000XR too tall, too revvy and not enough wow for 14k. Both a 2013 and 2015 Multistrada I really want to like these and they are getting better but I just cant love it enough to pay 16k odd for one.


The MT09 Tracer is an absolutely brilliant bike it weighs nothing and encourages hooligan behaviour. I was straight onto gravel strewn single track roads which I would have hated to take my other bikes on and loved getting it sideways on them. I found it all day comfortable and the crossplane triple was a brilliant torquey motor than loves to rev. It can tour, commute, plod around town or rip around backlanes. You can take one offroad far easier than a KTM Adventure or Multistrada.


I havent bought one yet as they are only 9500 euros in Germany which works out 6500-7000 pounds at current exchange rates. I will wait until the new reg next week and then head over and buy one as soon as 1 pound gets back to 1.4 euro.


I am happy to shell out for steel brake hoses, a 700 quid Akrapovic full system (from Europe, 900 odd over here) plus a Nitron rear shock and a fork cartridge kit, plus an ECU reflash to remove the limiters in the top 2 gears. I reckon I could easily gain 5bhp anf shed 5kg in weight perhaps more. Especially if I chuck some carbon wheels on it. I reckon it will then be a match for any advebture styked bike on the market and close to a supermoto on tiny B roads.

I dont believe that there is 10hp difference between two bikes with the same modifications but I can easily believe there could be 10hp difference between different dynos measuring the same bike.

Dont buy anything Furygan. I did and it leaks like a sieve. The waterproof layer is the detachable bit with the quilted thermal liner on the inside. So it obviously never rains in the summer where the furygan designer lives.

I could take the thermal / waterproof liner with me everywhere but it is easier to put a thin waterproof overjacket on instead. I know this defeats the object of textiles and wont be buying any more Furygan crap. Nothing good ever came out of France.

You are right Mike, cost does have to be considered so I have set my budget at 400-500 quid tops.


For 450 quid I can get a set of ready made billet yokes from ebay. With no adjustability, hopefully replicating the std bike's geometry but who knows? Made primarily for the shiny chrome streetfighter crowd. This guy is just replicating his original design so perhaps we can say 100 quid for materials and 350 quid for his time and profit.


Would they be strong enough, who knows? They are probably fine for those folk that ride 50 mph upright between bike shows, bulldog bash, mayday run etc. How they would cope if you are wanging it around a corner, find a tractor in your path and have to make a quick direction change on a potholed Uk road, not so sure.


But is it really cheaper to use various Yamaha bits off ebay? Not from what I have seem: Gen 2 top yoke with risers 100 quid, lower yoke about the same, steering stem 50 quid for a stock one you have to get machined or 100 quid for a custom one. Plus getting it all fitted together. I reckon you are still in for 450 quid ish.


Also you still dont know if what you have created is strong enough. All of those bits designed for other bikes were not designed to work together so again, do we really know if they would cope in an emergency. I accept that most of us are just doing this mod for our own use and will take our own chances but I wouldnt recommend lending a modified bike to a mate or selling it without putting it back to stock.


The only way I can get adjustable yokes designed and built withing budget is to find someone that does that type of work as a hobby / sideline. Those sort of people are involved in racing and particularly in Supermono where there are few restrictions on engineering. I have a few contacts in racing and they are all pointing me to the same people. If I can get them interested enough to take the project on I reckon I can keep it within budget....I hope [size=78%] [/size]

 
Ok I have R1 forks (5pw) everything else is still a mystery. I was half inclined to buy a set of custom yokes and be done with it. The downside is that I will still have the same offset and sterring geometry on the std bike and I want it more on it's nose like a sports bike with handlebars.


One of the major benefits, to me, of this modification is to put the bike more on R1 geometry than its current its sedate steering.

I am pretty sure this can be achieved by using R1 lower yokes and a  Gen 2 top yoke but I dont have those bits and dont really know what years etc, plus I dont want to end up with a load of bits I may or may not be able to get someone more knowledgeable than me to splice together.I know Devilsyam was planning a solution with these bits but it wont happen unless 10 people commit and there is me and maybe another atm.So today I have been chasing up some racing contacts in the Supermono mob and have found some guys that will make adjustable yoke sets, knock me up a steering stem and programme the lot into their CAD database incase anyone else wants the same done in the future. So, what I need is a drawing or measurements of the adjusted FZS steering stem if anyone has one.Also, the angles of rake and trail that can be achieved with the R1 lower yoke set up.In an ideal world we will end up with a correctly specced bottom yoke that can adjust from the std offset to the most extreme R1 offset available, plus a stepped top yoke that offers the current fazer ride positon plus a variety of sportier alternatives. None of this will happen without your input as I know nothing.

38-250-XX springs and 1.0kg/mm for a firm setup.

same springs as HONDA,CBR900RR-954,2002-2003 HONDA,CB1000R,2008> HONDA,ST1300,2003> KAWASAKI,ZX12-R,1998> KAWASAKI,ZX1400,2007> KAWASAKI,ZZR1400,2007> KTM,RC8,2008> SUZUKI,GSXR750,1998 SUZUKI,GSXR750,2000-2003 SUZUKI,GSX1300R HAYABUSA,1998-2007 SUZUKI,TL1000R,1998> YAMAHA,R1,2002-2003 YAMAHA,FZ1,2006>

Thanks for that. I have standard 2008 RC8 springs kicking around the garage as we put the RC8R cartridge kit in mine. However, I am guessing these springs willl be in the 2002/3 R1 forks anyway, unless it transpires the forks have been upgraded in the past?

Think I will get the refreshed anyway as the oil might be 12 yrs old by now and take a view on springs once we know what is in there.

Been to a few forum group trackdays. The only one where everyone turned up with the bike they was the first couple of Superduke crash fest at Cadwelll. We did one with Aprilia owners at Brands and most of them were riding assorted trackbikes of non Aprilia origin, same with the Ducati mob.

The Fazer is a big old girl for trackriding, I doubt I would chose it over the Superduke i also own TBH. I got the Fazer as I dont do so many trackdays now and wanted something a bit more comfortable for road riding. 

 So can we deduce Fazer owners are unlucky at state sponsored gambling or are all the big winners now ex Fazer owners? Perhaps you would find more lottery winners on the Desmosedici Owners Forum?