Fazer Owners Club - Unofficial
General => General => Topic started by: flyboy on 11 December 2013, 05:59:42 pm
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Come on lads get this petition signed
Article on Live Leak
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=60f_1386776819 (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=60f_1386776819)
Link to petition
http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/56810
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:thumbup
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Done.
It's a sad state of affairs.
Not enough has been said about the twat who used a video camera to film it all, against orders & by mistake which i think is the worst bit of it all.
& i mean come on to foc!!!...you get home & realise it's on film.....get it disposed of instead of passing the footage around as a trophy.
I foresee a very big clampdown on video cameras on the battlefield although i think they also provide lots of useful analysis, maybe a move to more designated cameras instead of any old bugger having one.
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Signed
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No thanks.
We're supposed to be the good guys. Someone who cold-bloodedly executes an injured POW thoroughly deserves to be in jail.
Al-Quaeda have enough followers without arseholes like that acting as a recruiting officer on their behalf.
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No thanks.
We're supposed to be the good guys. Someone who cold-bloodedly executes an injured POW thoroughly deserves to be in jail.
Al-Quaeda have enough followers without arseholes like that acting as a recruiting officer on their behalf.
What are you a human rights supporter ???? An eye for an eye is what I say that POW got what he deserved.
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No thanks.
We're supposed to be the good guys. Someone who cold-bloodedly executes an injured POW thoroughly deserves to be in jail.
Al-Quaeda have enough followers without arseholes like that acting as a recruiting officer on their behalf.
Yep, what he said.
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No thanks.
We're supposed to be the good guys. Someone who cold-bloodedly executes an injured POW thoroughly deserves to be in jail.
Al-Quaeda have enough followers without arseholes like that acting as a recruiting officer on their behalf.
I disagree, what do you think that Mr Al-Quaeda would of done to OUR soldier if he was unfortunate enough to be captured?
Alexander Blackman has probably had many friends killed or horrifically injured at the hands of Al-Quaeda so probably thought a little payback was due.
When fighting such an enemy I think human rights and respect has to take a back seat..
Don't forget who Al-Quaeda are and what they have done to the world..
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Knew this would turn into a bun fight :rolleyes
I think what we need to realise is that this stuff has always gone on & always will go on.
Probably many highly decorated veterans of past wars have carried out some dodgy shit in the heat of the moment.
What i will say though is that the way they did it was a bit sneaky, they should have just left the guy to slowly snuff it without any of the words of wisdom which i feel is a bit ott.
Rules are rules but 10 years is too much.
Low lifes in the uk get less than that for some pretty serious crimes.
All down to personal opinion as usual, my opinion - show these foccers we're not be messed with & give em hell :evil :evil :evil
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Done.
It's a sad state of affairs.
Not enough has been said about the twat who used a video camera to film it all, against orders & by mistake which i think is the worst bit of it all.
& i mean come on to foc!!!...you get home & realise it's on film.....get it disposed of instead of passing the footage around as a trophy.
I foresee a very big clampdown on video cameras on the battlefield although i think they also provide lots of useful analysis, maybe a move to more designated cameras instead of any old bugger having one.
The camera was part of their combat gear, not a phone.
I won't be signing as, what ever you feel about him personally he brought our armed forces into disrepute.
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You sure skip?
The news said it was a helmet mounted camera but against orders, maybe they could see something like this happening & decided to restrict the use of the cameras unless under pre planned activities where everyone is briefed on what to/not do on camera.
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You sure skip?
The news said it was a helmet mounted camera but against orders, maybe they could see something like this happening & decided to restrict the use of the cameras unless under pre planned activities where everyone is briefed on what to/not do on camera.
Not sure about orders, don't know why that would be, apart form the obvious!!!
But it is part of their kit, just like in the movies.
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No thanks.
We're supposed to be the good guys. Someone who cold-bloodedly executes an injured POW thoroughly deserves to be in jail.
Al-Quaeda have enough followers without arseholes like that acting as a recruiting officer on their behalf.
I disagree, what do you think that Mr Al-Quaeda would of done to OUR soldier if he was unfortunate enough to be captured?
Alexander Blackman has probably had many friends killed or horrifically injured at the hands of Al-Quaeda so probably thought a little payback was due.
When fighting such an enemy I think human rights and respect has to take a back seat..
Don't forget who Al-Quaeda are and what they have done to the world..
I didn't even think the murdered man was a member of Al Quaeda, I thought he was a taliban insurgent?
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:thumbup signed
the only thing he did wrong was get caught. i doubt ANYONE on here can even begin to imagine how they would react after seeing 2 of their mates die horribly,so i for one will refuse to condem a veteren who's seen more gore in 6 months in that shit hole than i ever will.
and to release his name and address to the public so the extremist scum can freely have a go at the blokes family......? the judge needs jailing for that decision :wall
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No thanks.
We're supposed to be the good guys. Someone who cold-bloodedly executes an injured POW thoroughly deserves to be in jail.
Al-Quaeda have enough followers without arseholes like that acting as a recruiting officer on their behalf.
What are you a human rights supporter ???? An eye for an eye is what I say that POW got what he deserved.
Isn't upholding human rights supposedly the reason why they're out there?
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No thanks.
We're supposed to be the good guys. Someone who cold-bloodedly executes an injured POW thoroughly deserves to be in jail.
Al-Quaeda have enough followers without arseholes like that acting as a recruiting officer on their behalf.
I disagree, what do you think that Mr Al-Quaeda would of done to OUR soldier if he was unfortunate enough to be captured?
Alexander Blackman has probably had many friends killed or horrifically injured at the hands of Al-Quaeda so probably thought a little payback was due.
When fighting such an enemy I think human rights and respect has to take a back seat..
Don't forget who Al-Quaeda are and what they have done to the world..
I didn't even think the murdered man was a member of Al Quaeda, I thought he was a taliban insurgent?
Your right he was, but I don't see the difference as our troops are fighting both..
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It's a difficult one this, I'm caught on both sides.
I served 17 years in the Army, and saw 4 tours of duty in Iraq, Bosnia, and a long stint in Northern Ireland. I've seen some horrible shit in that time which affects you for the rest of your life, seen good friends get killed, and serve an unhealthy hatred for races of people. I can see and understand why the Marine did it!
On the flip side, that Marine has received some of the best training you could ask for, the rules of engagement are very simple, and the Geneva convention rules are drummed into you from day one.
He made his mind up, did what he did for his own reasons, and that moment will haunt him for the rest of his days. It's a face he will never forget!
Don't be so quick to judge him guys.
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Well said Steve, as an ex Royal Marine I am also torn between the two sides of this and as a consequence have so far refrained from making any comments on here or anywhere else.'
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a real dillema this. i served in the navy but the nearest i got to war type shit was a friday night in pompey. i really feel for the marine (all marines) that find themselves in that situation but two wrongs dont make a right. ill stay on the fence.
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thinking about it the taliban dont exactly play fair so foc it im signing.
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Just remember this when the Para's lost control in Londonderry and shot 13 dead? that momentary madness ensured Martin McGuiness & Gerry Adams had young lads joining the Provo's (IRA) for the next 30 years, the net result of that episode led to over 3000 deaths in N Ireland and sadly plenty on the main land as well, mostly innocents murdered by both sides.
My point is discipline has to be maintained to the highest degree by our armed forces, it is what puts us above the rest. I can understand what has happened but it can never be condoned.
A similar situation could develop in the UK with every mad mullah preaching hatred at Friday prayers, We have already had one young lad hacked to death outside his barricks.
The judge tough should never ever named the Marine.
I am not wanting to start a debate about N Ireland just making an analogy.
Lew
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I'm with Fazerider etc. - odd though it sounds, war has rules : the Geneva Convention - and if we don't respect them we're no better than any other bunch of terrorists. If you don't like 'em, don't sign up, simples. And certainly don't break 'em on camera!!
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Video not found ?
What was it?
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He is a murderer and should take his punishment.
John
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After WW2 they hung German officers for ordering the execution of British POWs. Wrong decision?
The Americans lost the Vietnam war at home because of actions like this. I don't want our vets (myself and two of my brothers amongst them) being spat on at home because of the actions of some hothead.
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i'm not getting involved. i'm half german.