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Bikes, Hints'n'Tips => Fazer 1000/FZ1 corner => Topic started by: Davebo on 03 March 2014, 10:01:38 pm

Title: EXUP cables replacement
Post by: Davebo on 03 March 2014, 10:01:38 pm
So, having been told I have a snapped EXUP (inner) cable I've sourced a repair kit from Venhill.

I am assuming that I can replace the inner cable without having to take the whole valve assembly out, but I cannot find any documentation of the top end of the cables and how to remove them.

Any clues please ? Tips & Tricks ?

TIA, DBo.
Title: Re: EXUP cables replacement
Post by: Falcon 269 on 04 March 2014, 07:14:42 am
The cable nipple connects to the servo pulley (top left side of motor, close to the frame, looking from the rear) the same was as it does to the pulley on the valve itself.  Access is tight but common sense will find you a way in.

If you fit a nipple to one of the Venhill inner, it might be possible to thread it down the outer from the top end, saving the need to remove the cable completely. 

If you do have to remove the cable, pull it through with a length of string attached and that will give you the means to refit it along the same route.
Title: Re: EXUP cables replacement
Post by: Davebo on 04 March 2014, 10:12:21 pm
Cheers!

Haynes says '1. Remove the fuel tank'.

Is that really necessary or should I just try and squeeze my fat fingers in there ?

Thanks again, DBo.
Title: Re: EXUP cables replacement
Post by: Falcon 269 on 04 March 2014, 10:30:29 pm
You need to lift and prop the tank at least.  Just as easy to get it out of the way completely, though.

Your fat fingers are in for a fun time. ;)
Title: Re: EXUP cables replacement
Post by: Red Ceri on 04 March 2014, 11:55:10 pm
Wasn't there a thread recently regarding pattern EXUP cables that either Wemoto or Venhill produced that couldn't take the heat at the exhaust end and the nipples fell off due to the solder softening?
 
I'd be carefull using a repair kit that is meant for throttle/clutch cables as these probably can't take the heat at the exhaust end.
 
 
Title: Re: EXUP cables replacement
Post by: Davebo on 06 March 2014, 10:39:03 pm
Ah, but the Venhill kits have instructions which say (something like) 'use the solderless nipples at the exup valve end'.

Probly on account of the solder melting. The soldered end of the cable is at the servo end.
Title: Re: EXUP cables replacement
Post by: AyJay on 07 March 2014, 07:30:18 pm
Quote from: Red Ceri on 04 March 2014, 11:55:10 pm
Wasn't there a thread recently regarding pattern EXUP cables that either Wemoto or Venhill produced that couldn't take the heat at the exhaust end and the nipples fell off due to the solder softening?
 
I'd be carefull using a repair kit that is meant for throttle/clutch cables as these probably can't take the heat at the exhaust end.


It isn't the Wemoto cables. I've had a set on mine for the last year/20,000 miles and they're good. They redesigned the second batch to give a larger range of adjustment because I kept running out of adjustment taking up the slack after they'd been on for a few miles, but now I'd give them a big thumbs up. Especially since they're 80 quid cheaper than the OE cables.
Title: Re: EXUP cables replacement
Post by: Davebo on 08 March 2014, 07:01:17 pm
Posted the sorry tale of my ham-fistedness in 'What did you do with your Fazer today?' but in essence I took 4 hours to do a sub-1 hour job. Knacked one of the replacement cables, but got there in the end.

Very impressed with the (Venhill) replacement kit (It comes with 2 cables, two solderless nipples, 2 allen keys and some instructions). Proof of the pudding will be how long it lasts, but so far so good.

Less impressed with Yamaha's design team who have created an instrument of torture under that frame.
Title: Re: EXUP cables replacement
Post by: b1k3rdude on 14 March 2014, 12:28:16 pm
There is a mint set of genuine exup cables going on ebay atm, the lister is in the states but the price is insanely cheep.
Title: Re: EXUP cables replacement
Post by: Mattsplat on 14 March 2014, 12:57:10 pm
Ive got a pair of GenII exup cables for sale if your interested?

But, these are cheaper!
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/fz1000-fazer-exup-leads-Yamaha-OEM-/111184785362?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts_13&hash=item19e3212fd2 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/fz1000-fazer-exup-leads-Yamaha-OEM-/111184785362?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts_13&hash=item19e3212fd2)
Title: Re: EXUP cables replacement
Post by: Deswilson on 14 March 2014, 04:41:31 pm
Quote from: Mattsplat on 14 March 2014, 12:57:10 pm
Ive got a pair of GenII exup cables for sale if your interested?

But, these are cheaper!
[url]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/fz1000-fazer-exup-leads-Yamaha-OEM-/111184785362?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts_13&hash=item19e3212fd2[/url] ([url]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/fz1000-fazer-exup-leads-Yamaha-OEM-/111184785362?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts_13&hash=item19e3212fd2[/url])



Are these the same for the Gen 1 Fazer?  I've just discovered today one of my cables is badly frayed and will need replaced soon.
Title: Re: EXUP cables replacement
Post by: Falcon 269 on 14 March 2014, 05:17:46 pm
No, mate - afraid not.  Cheap because Gen II guys frequently remove the EXUP on that model as it only closes a flapper valve to cut noise at the dB test rpm. :(
Title: Re: EXUP cables replacement
Post by: Deswilson on 14 March 2014, 05:31:51 pm
Quote from: Falcon 269 on 14 March 2014, 05:17:46 pm
No, mate - afraid not.  Cheap because Gen II guys frequently remove the EXUP on that model as it only closes a flapper valve to cut noise at the dB test rpm. :(


Cheers Mike,  Worth a try I suppose.  I've posted a wanted thread in the for sales section in case anyone has anything.


Des