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Title: New inlet rubber for the carburetors
Post by: Bimbam on 09 November 2016, 07:10:18 pm
Hi
Does anybody know an internet shop where I can buy the four inlet rubber for the carburetors?(Position 1 +2)

The original spare part is way too expensive.



Title: Re: New inlet rubber for the carburetors
Post by: Pandy on 09 November 2016, 08:43:35 pm
Hi!

I just had the same problem on my FZS600. I bought them from ebay, there are plenty sellers with different prices. I paid for all 4, 90.50€ including postage from Germany to Romania (10€).
I think it's a good price 20€ per one brand new inlet.

Hope i helped,
Iulian
Title: Re: New inlet rubber for the carburetors
Post by: unfazed on 09 November 2016, 10:44:21 pm
 WeMoto or M&P have them
Title: Re: New inlet rubber for the carburetors
Post by: darrsi on 10 November 2016, 05:41:38 am

Unfortunately another expensive piece of kit, along with brake discs and shocks, that seem to hit your wallet rather hard.   :'(



http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/inlet-manifold-rubbers-carb-to-head-rubbers-for-YAMAHA-FZS600-FAZER-1998-2003-/371778960495?hash=item568fc0bc6f:g:LZAAAOSw-nZTqYKF (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/inlet-manifold-rubbers-carb-to-head-rubbers-for-YAMAHA-FZS600-FAZER-1998-2003-/371778960495?hash=item568fc0bc6f:g:LZAAAOSw-nZTqYKF)




http://yambits.co.uk/fzs600-fazer-carb-inlet-rubbers-p-42118.html (http://yambits.co.uk/fzs600-fazer-carb-inlet-rubbers-p-42118.html)




http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Yamaha-FZS600-Fazer-Carburettor-to-Head-Rubbers-Carb-Inlet-Rubbers-1998-to-2002-/381832919379?fits=UKM_StreetName%3AFazer&hash=item58e703f953:m:mPyGQ3ebCRHta2LxRK2tTyQ (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Yamaha-FZS600-Fazer-Carburettor-to-Head-Rubbers-Carb-Inlet-Rubbers-1998-to-2002-/381832919379?fits=UKM_StreetName%3AFazer&hash=item58e703f953:m:mPyGQ3ebCRHta2LxRK2tTyQ)




http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Yamaha-FZS-600-N-Fazer-2000-Intake-Inlet-Rubber-Kit-x4-/331442697583?hash=item4d2b86356f:g:EN0AAOSwa39UsA2d (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Yamaha-FZS-600-N-Fazer-2000-Intake-Inlet-Rubber-Kit-x4-/331442697583?hash=item4d2b86356f:g:EN0AAOSwa39UsA2d)
Title: Re: New inlet rubber for the carburetors
Post by: Dave48 on 10 November 2016, 08:46:54 am
I think M&P Direct are cheaper than the above.
Title: Re: New inlet rubber for the carburetors
Post by: darrsi on 10 November 2016, 11:07:01 am
I think M&P Direct are cheaper than the above.


They're a £8 more expensive than the top link (incl. del.). I'd already checked them.

http://www.mandp.co.uk/index.php/default/motorcycle-spares/spares/engine-parts/229845-carb-to-head-rubbers.html (http://www.mandp.co.uk/index.php/default/motorcycle-spares/spares/engine-parts/229845-carb-to-head-rubbers.html)
Title: Re: New inlet rubber for the carburetors
Post by: Pandy on 10 November 2016, 02:59:46 pm
Here is the auction about i spoke before:

http://m.ebay.com/itm/Ansaugstutzen-Yamaha-FZS-600-Fazer-SATZ-NEU-/370235282983?nav=WATCHING_ACTIVE (http://m.ebay.com/itm/Ansaugstutzen-Yamaha-FZS-600-Fazer-SATZ-NEU-/370235282983?nav=WATCHING_ACTIVE)

Title: Re: New inlet rubber for the carburetors
Post by: Bimbam on 10 November 2016, 03:06:51 pm
Thx for the help  :lol
Title: Re: New inlet rubber for the carburetors
Post by: darrsi on 10 November 2016, 03:46:06 pm
Here is the auction about i spoke before:

[url]http://m.ebay.com/itm/Ansaugstutzen-Yamaha-FZS-600-Fazer-SATZ-NEU-/370235282983?nav=WATCHING_ACTIVE[/url] ([url]http://m.ebay.com/itm/Ansaugstutzen-Yamaha-FZS-600-Fazer-SATZ-NEU-/370235282983?nav=WATCHING_ACTIVE[/url])


£78.65, similar sort of price really.
Title: Re: New inlet rubber for the carburetors
Post by: Onevan on 27 December 2016, 08:21:11 pm
It may be worth checking the rubbers as they could be split only on the "outside". I removed mine and checked them with a dye penetrant and used developer on the inside. No sign of leakage so just filled the "outer cracks with clear silicon sealant and a bit of black marker pen to colour them in. £80 is still in the bank 😃
Title: Re: New inlet rubber for the carburetors
Post by: rw711 on 27 December 2016, 10:55:37 pm
http://www.thejunkmanadv.com/cracked-rubber-intake-boot-fix.html (http://www.thejunkmanadv.com/cracked-rubber-intake-boot-fix.html)

Just one of a few links I've seen where they replace with silicon hose ? looks cheap and durable if not for concours restoration jobs - not sure skill level though?
a few youtube vids showing similar?
Title: Re: New inlet rubber for the carburetors
Post by: daviee on 28 December 2016, 01:16:07 pm
£70-80 is  not expensive for what you are getting most other  bikes are the same 
Title: Re: New inlet rubber for the carburetors
Post by: Roky on 30 March 2018, 04:00:54 pm
Hello
I alo have question about these rubbers. I just baught fazer 1000 year 2003 and I noticed some reather big cracks on my inlet rubbers.
When I drove it home I noticed taht as well as in low and high rps, when I open throttle quick, the engine stays on the same rpm for a second or two and then it starts to accelerate. Or when the engine is cold or when the bike is not moving, and I open the throttle quick the rpm fall pretty much and the it starts to accelerate, or ita also hapens, that the engine dies. Is that the problem beacuse of these cracks on rubbers?

Regars
Title: Re: New inlet rubber for the carburetors
Post by: adasilva on 30 March 2018, 05:01:20 pm
Hey.[/color]I bought new rubbers for my Fazer 600 2002 a few weeks ago. They cost me 79 pounds + shipping. i got them from yambits https://yambits.co.uk/fzs600-fazer-carb-inlet-rubbers-p-75890.html?osCsid=i0v9ick2tlmsp3kmd5grgmru74[/size]
[/color]The ones that were in the bike had some small cracks on them. After removing them i noticed that one was a bit bad but the other ones apart from having hairline cracks on them, it did not go thru the rubbers.[/size]
[/color]So if i were you i would take them apart first and check. Sometimes the cracks are just superficial and it has not gone thru. Also those rubbers have a hard core inside of them so you might be fine. [/size]
i have 3 of them if you interested.

Good luck.
Title: Re: New inlet rubber for the carburetors
Post by: Roky on 30 March 2018, 05:32:27 pm
Hey.I bought new rubbers for my Fazer 600 2002 a few weeks ago. They cost me 79 pounds + shipping. i got them from yambits https://yambits.co.uk/fzs600-fazer-carb-inlet-rubbers-p-75890.html?osCsid=i0v9ick2tlmsp3kmd5grgmru74 (https://yambits.co.uk/fzs600-fazer-carb-inlet-rubbers-p-75890.html?osCsid=i0v9ick2tlmsp3kmd5grgmru74)
The ones that were in the bike had some small cracks on them. After removing them i noticed that one was a bit bad but the other ones apart from having hairline cracks on them, it did not go thru the rubbers.
So if i were you i would take them apart first and check. Sometimes the cracks are just superficial and it has not gone thru. Also those rubbers have a hard core inside of them so you might be fine.
i have 3 of them if you interested.

Good luck.


I will try to take them off to see how they look, although I can see a little bit of metal trough one, right on the joint of sharp metal and rubber.
Can these rubbers be the cause, of my acceleration problems?





Title: Re: New inlet rubber for the carburetors
Post by: adasilva on 30 March 2018, 06:11:04 pm
Hey Roky
if you are seen the metal trough one then is bad. And yes you will might have some issues with your bike's performance if there is too much air going in.
But i also would check for other things after you replace those. like spark plugs, air filter.


good luck
Title: Re: New inlet rubber for the carburetors
Post by: Roky on 30 March 2018, 07:06:18 pm
Hey Roky
if you are seen the metal trough one then is bad. And yes you will might have some issues with your bike's performance if there is too much air going in.
But i also would check for other things after you replace those. like spark plugs, air filter.


good luck


Well then I have to change those f.... rubbers :)
I hope that it is just this problem, othervise I will have to go to some mechanic to make my Fazer run again

Title: Re: New inlet rubber for the carburetors
Post by: darrsi on 30 March 2018, 11:49:35 pm
Hey Roky
if you are seen the metal trough one then is bad. And yes you will might have some issues with your bike's performance if there is too much air going in.
But i also would check for other things after you replace those. like spark plugs, air filter.


good luck


Any unwanted extra air at all will cause big problems, mainly bogging down on acceleration.

Title: Re: New inlet rubber for the carburetors
Post by: redmandan on 31 March 2018, 12:13:17 pm
I'm also in the market for some new inlet rubbers. I found some real cheap ones from China on eBay for £15 delivered. I looked again recently and they've gone up to £20. They haven't arrived yet and I'm fully prepared for them to be junk but hey, maybe I'll get lucky.
Title: Re: New inlet rubber for the carburetors
Post by: Roky on 31 March 2018, 03:22:12 pm
I'm also in the market for some new inlet rubbers. I found some real cheap ones from China on eBay for £15 delivered. I looked again recently and they've gone up to £20. They haven't arrived yet and I'm fully prepared for them to be junk but hey, maybe I'll get lucky.


i think I will also buy something from Cihna. If you get them before I do please report here if they are ok.
Title: Re: New inlet rubber for the carburetors
Post by: His Dudeness on 31 March 2018, 03:48:02 pm
Yeah report back when you fit them ;) There seems to be a lot of sets on ebay for under £20. Most likely they are all from the same manufacturer. It'll be interesting to see the quality of them compared to the Yamaha ones.
Title: Re: New inlet rubber for the carburetors
Post by: hopefiendboy on 31 March 2018, 07:07:43 pm
My future fzs600 I pick up on Thursday also has this problem with cracked rubbers. My initial solution was to just cover up the cracks with liquid gasket high temp silicon but also tempted just to order some of the cheap chinese ones regardless- these perhaps?


https://www.aliexpress.com/item/LOPOR-Motorcycle-Carburetor-Right-left-Intake-Mainfold-for-Yamaha-FZS600-FAZER-1998-1999-2000-2001-2002/32856394719.html?spm=2114.search0104.3.2.c9e75214OThD4i&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_5_10152_10065_10151_10344_10068_10130_5722815_10324_10342_10547_10325_10343_10546_10340_10341_10548_5722915_5722615_10696_10190_10084_10083_10618_10307_10303_5722715_5711215_10313_10059_10184_10534_100031_10103_441_10624_10623_10622_5722515_10621_10620_10811,searchweb201603_25,ppcSwitch_4&algo_expid=80a34f9e-fb00-449a-8c92-dc33f9c1a6b0-0&algo_pvid=80a34f9e-fb00-449a-8c92-dc33f9c1a6b0&priceBeautifyAB=0 (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/LOPOR-Motorcycle-Carburetor-Right-left-Intake-Mainfold-for-Yamaha-FZS600-FAZER-1998-1999-2000-2001-2002/32856394719.html?spm=2114.search0104.3.2.c9e75214OThD4i&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_5_10152_10065_10151_10344_10068_10130_5722815_10324_10342_10547_10325_10343_10546_10340_10341_10548_5722915_5722615_10696_10190_10084_10083_10618_10307_10303_5722715_5711215_10313_10059_10184_10534_100031_10103_441_10624_10623_10622_5722515_10621_10620_10811,searchweb201603_25,ppcSwitch_4&algo_expid=80a34f9e-fb00-449a-8c92-dc33f9c1a6b0-0&algo_pvid=80a34f9e-fb00-449a-8c92-dc33f9c1a6b0&priceBeautifyAB=0)


Not seen any cheap ones on ebay but the above seem correct. Unsure of quality but as a replacement for 18yr old ones might just be the ticket...


Paul
Title: Re: New inlet rubber for the carburetors
Post by: His Dudeness on 31 March 2018, 08:47:17 pm
My future fzs600 I pick up on Thursday also has this problem with cracked rubbers. My initial solution was to just cover up the cracks with liquid gasket high temp silicon but also tempted just to order some of the cheap chinese ones regardless- these perhaps?


https://www.aliexpress.com/item/LOPOR-Motorcycle-Carburetor-Right-left-Intake-Mainfold-for-Yamaha-FZS600-FAZER-1998-1999-2000-2001-2002/32856394719.html?spm=2114.search0104.3.2.c9e75214OThD4i&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_5_10152_10065_10151_10344_10068_10130_5722815_10324_10342_10547_10325_10343_10546_10340_10341_10548_5722915_5722615_10696_10190_10084_10083_10618_10307_10303_5722715_5711215_10313_10059_10184_10534_100031_10103_441_10624_10623_10622_5722515_10621_10620_10811,searchweb201603_25,ppcSwitch_4&algo_expid=80a34f9e-fb00-449a-8c92-dc33f9c1a6b0-0&algo_pvid=80a34f9e-fb00-449a-8c92-dc33f9c1a6b0&priceBeautifyAB=0 (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/LOPOR-Motorcycle-Carburetor-Right-left-Intake-Mainfold-for-Yamaha-FZS600-FAZER-1998-1999-2000-2001-2002/32856394719.html?spm=2114.search0104.3.2.c9e75214OThD4i&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_5_10152_10065_10151_10344_10068_10130_5722815_10324_10342_10547_10325_10343_10546_10340_10341_10548_5722915_5722615_10696_10190_10084_10083_10618_10307_10303_5722715_5711215_10313_10059_10184_10534_100031_10103_441_10624_10623_10622_5722515_10621_10620_10811,searchweb201603_25,ppcSwitch_4&algo_expid=80a34f9e-fb00-449a-8c92-dc33f9c1a6b0-0&algo_pvid=80a34f9e-fb00-449a-8c92-dc33f9c1a6b0&priceBeautifyAB=0)


Not seen any cheap ones on ebay but the above seem correct. Unsure of quality but as a replacement for 18yr old ones might just be the ticket...


Paul

Same ones I'd say https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Carburetor-Manifold-Intake-Adapter-Joint-Boot-for-Yamaha-FZS600-FAZER-1998-2003/142732014406?hash=item213b7db346:g:~WIAAOSwsTdaoif2 (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Carburetor-Manifold-Intake-Adapter-Joint-Boot-for-Yamaha-FZS600-FAZER-1998-2003/142732014406?hash=item213b7db346:g:~WIAAOSwsTdaoif2)

The Yamaha ones are thick so cracking on the outside doesn't mean you have to replace them.
Title: Re: New inlet rubber for the carburetors
Post by: Roky on 31 March 2018, 08:48:40 pm

I will buy these one


https://www.ebay.ca/itm/Carburetor-Intake-Manifold-Boots-For-Yamaha-FZS1000-FZ1-Fazer-1000-2001-2005-B1/263521901105?hash=item3d5b211a31:g:2gAAAOSwevZalaq0&vxp=mtr (https://www.ebay.ca/itm/Carburetor-Intake-Manifold-Boots-For-Yamaha-FZS1000-FZ1-Fazer-1000-2001-2005-B1/263521901105?hash=item3d5b211a31:g:2gAAAOSwevZalaq0&vxp=mtr)
Title: Re: New inlet rubber for the carburetors
Post by: fazersharp on 31 March 2018, 08:57:52 pm
Its a shame you can not just buy the outer two because I am pretty sure that it is UV damage that makes them go hard and crack and the inside ones are sheltered
Title: Re: New inlet rubber for the carburetors
Post by: Roky on 31 March 2018, 09:08:09 pm
Its a shame you can not just buy the outer two because I am pretty sure that it is UV damage that makes them go hard and crack and the inside ones are sheltered


Thrust me it is not just UV light. The heat has also a lot to do with rubber degradation, and the bikes are old so there comes a time...to change  :)
But original parts are just to expensive...
Title: Re: New inlet rubber for the carburetors
Post by: hopefiendboy on 31 March 2018, 10:36:18 pm
Yes I hear u about not potentially being a problem but I put a bit of liquid over the outer ones cracks and the fluid disappeared pretty quick so I suspect they are having some effect.
Inner ones also have visual cracks too.


But for 15 quid I'll give it a shot. And yes the cheap e bay ones look the same as the aliexpress ones! Same manufacturer at least.
Title: Re: New inlet rubber for the carburetors
Post by: psyfi_1 on 02 April 2018, 11:54:19 am
i got mine on ebar recently for like 60 quid

Title: Re: New inlet rubber for the carburetors
Post by: adasilva on 02 April 2018, 03:48:46 pm
My future fzs600 I pick up on Thursday also has this problem with cracked rubbers. My initial solution was to just cover up the cracks with liquid gasket high temp silicon but also tempted just to order some of the cheap chinese ones regardless- these perhaps?


https://www.aliexpress.com/item/LOPOR-Motorcycle-Carburetor-Right-left-Intake-Mainfold-for-Yamaha-FZS600-FAZER-1998-1999-2000-2001-2002/32856394719.html?spm=2114.search0104.3.2.c9e75214OThD4i&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_5_10152_10065_10151_10344_10068_10130_5722815_10324_10342_10547_10325_10343_10546_10340_10341_10548_5722915_5722615_10696_10190_10084_10083_10618_10307_10303_5722715_5711215_10313_10059_10184_10534_100031_10103_441_10624_10623_10622_5722515_10621_10620_10811,searchweb201603_25,ppcSwitch_4&algo_expid=80a34f9e-fb00-449a-8c92-dc33f9c1a6b0-0&algo_pvid=80a34f9e-fb00-449a-8c92-dc33f9c1a6b0&priceBeautifyAB=0 (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/LOPOR-Motorcycle-Carburetor-Right-left-Intake-Mainfold-for-Yamaha-FZS600-FAZER-1998-1999-2000-2001-2002/32856394719.html?spm=2114.search0104.3.2.c9e75214OThD4i&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_5_10152_10065_10151_10344_10068_10130_5722815_10324_10342_10547_10325_10343_10546_10340_10341_10548_5722915_5722615_10696_10190_10084_10083_10618_10307_10303_5722715_5711215_10313_10059_10184_10534_100031_10103_441_10624_10623_10622_5722515_10621_10620_10811,searchweb201603_25,ppcSwitch_4&algo_expid=80a34f9e-fb00-449a-8c92-dc33f9c1a6b0-0&algo_pvid=80a34f9e-fb00-449a-8c92-dc33f9c1a6b0&priceBeautifyAB=0)




Not seen any cheap ones on ebay but the above seem correct. Unsure of quality but as a replacement for 18yr old ones might just be the ticket...


Paul

I did that on my ones and did not make any difference. So if they are bad as you said, you might as well not waste your time and change them

I did that on my but it did not make any improvement and basically if they are cracked bad like you said, you might as well not waste your time and change them.
Title: Re: New inlet rubber for the carburetors
Post by: matt7chunk on 02 April 2018, 05:59:13 pm
Just ordered some of the 15 quid ones to give a shot , my originals aren't causing me any issues but just visually bad , I'll post my thoughts when they arrive
Title: Re: New inlet rubber for the carburetors
Post by: redmandan on 07 April 2018, 08:22:29 pm
So I got my inlet rubbers from China for 15 quid last week. I'm finally at the point of putting them back together so I made a little album and have some info on them.


https://imgur.com/a/F5uKt (https://imgur.com/a/F5uKt)


In short, I was very happy with them until I was fitting the last one and the post to connect a balancing tool came out.


In long, I started with cylinder 1 on the left of the bike. As per the photos on the eBay ad they do not come with the caps to cover the vacuum gauge connection points, but that's no matter, the ones from my original rubbers are still OK. I did one at a time to try and work out which ones went where. I think there are basically 2 left ones and 2 right ones not necessarily one per each cylinder. They are labelled incorrectly on the rubbers themselves.


I have my carbs off right now so I was able to try them on the carb ends with space to get a good view and they looked pretty decent. I put a bit of engine oil around the engine side, cleaned up the metal of the block with a rag and some solvent and they fitted very well.


Until I got to the last one, for some reason I fitted the vacuum gauge cap and then decided to pull it off again. The whole post came off with it. There is a reasonable chance this will happen with the others as well although I haven't checked them yet. It looks like they are only secured in place with some resin of some sort and this one did not receive a good enough dollop in the right place to hold it in. In comparison to the original Yamaha ones they are also held in with some kind of adhesive resin but it looks much more robust. It's a square evenly placed around the whole post like a machine did it. The Chinese ones just have a dollop like somebody applied it with a syringe.


I cannot try them with the engine running yet as I have just fitted a new cam chain and I'm waiting for a new tensioner gasket.


I'm going to attempt to fix it as I think it might be OK, this is where I ask for some advice, I have to hand fibreglass resin (for boat repairs and whatnot) vulcanizing rubber glue (for bicycle inner tubes) or superglue. What do you guys recommend?
Title: Re: New inlet rubber for the carburetors
Post by: His Dudeness on 08 April 2018, 03:33:29 pm
So I got my inlet rubbers from China for 15 quid last week. I'm finally at the point of putting them back together so I made a little album and have some info on them.


https://imgur.com/a/F5uKt (https://imgur.com/a/F5uKt)


In short, I was very happy with them until I was fitting the last one and the post to connect a balancing tool came out.


In long, I started with cylinder 1 on the left of the bike. As per the photos on the eBay ad they do not come with the caps to cover the vacuum gauge connection points, but that's no matter, the ones from my original rubbers are still OK. I did one at a time to try and work out which ones went where. I think there are basically 2 left ones and 2 right ones not necessarily one per each cylinder. They are labelled incorrectly on the rubbers themselves.


I have my carbs off right now so I was able to try them on the carb ends with space to get a good view and they looked pretty decent. I put a bit of engine oil around the engine side, cleaned up the metal of the block with a rag and some solvent and they fitted very well.


Until I got to the last one, for some reason I fitted the vacuum gauge cap and then decided to pull it off again. The whole post came off with it. There is a reasonable chance this will happen with the others as well although I haven't checked them yet. It looks like they are only secured in place with some resin of some sort and this one did not receive a good enough dollop in the right place to hold it in. In comparison to the original Yamaha ones they are also held in with some kind of adhesive resin but it looks much more robust. It's a square evenly placed around the whole post like a machine did it. The Chinese ones just have a dollop like somebody applied it with a syringe.


I cannot try them with the engine running yet as I have just fitted a new cam chain and I'm waiting for a new tensioner gasket.


I'm going to attempt to fix it as I think it might be OK, this is where I ask for some advice, I have to hand fibreglass resin (for boat repairs and whatnot) vulcanizing rubber glue (for bicycle inner tubes) or superglue. What do you guys recommend?

That's annoying. Seems like the easiest part to get right would be the nipple. How tight is it in the hole? If it's a tight fit normal super glue would probably work. If there's a bit of a gap the vulcanising glue might take up the gap and work better. I think you'll have to do some trial and error.
Title: Re: New inlet rubber for the carburetors
Post by: Disorderlypunk on 08 April 2018, 05:19:12 pm
i thought left and right would have been the easiest bit to get right during manufacturing
 i am wondering if the inlets are reversable so the post sits at the bottom and if it would make any difference
- i could go and check but after the morning i have had i have hit the cans and will only move to go to the loo
(although i can hear an ice cream van and it is tempting)
Title: Re: New inlet rubber for the carburetors
Post by: matt7chunk on 12 April 2018, 11:51:56 am
Received mine today will maby attempt fitting today if I get time
Title: Re: New inlet rubber for the carburetors
Post by: focced_off on 12 April 2018, 01:16:41 pm
Is it not possible to buy a length of SAMCO (silicone) Hose of the correct diameter, then cut 4 correct length pieces to fit?
Might be cheaper that way than a dedicated "kit" for the Fazer? Something like below...

https://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/performance/universal-straight-hoses/samco-air-water-straight-silicone-hose (https://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/performance/universal-straight-hoses/samco-air-water-straight-silicone-hose)
Title: Re: New inlet rubber for the carburetors
Post by: hopefiendboy on 12 April 2018, 01:17:47 pm
Also received mine the other day- brass inserts all glued in nice and firmly. Just need to pick the bike up now  :'( :b
Title: Re: New inlet rubber for the carburetors
Post by: His Dudeness on 12 April 2018, 09:32:17 pm
Is it not possible to buy a length of SAMCO (silicone) Hose of the correct diameter, then cut 4 correct length pieces to fit?
Might be cheaper that way than a dedicated "kit" for the Fazer? Something like below...

https://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/performance/universal-straight-hoses/samco-air-water-straight-silicone-hose (https://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/performance/universal-straight-hoses/samco-air-water-straight-silicone-hose)

The manifolds bolt flat against the engine so I don't think a hose would work
Title: Re: New inlet rubber for the carburetors
Post by: Disorderlypunk on 13 April 2018, 12:03:53 am
also not all silicone hose is fuel resistant it needs a fluorosilicone or fluorocarbon lining
- i found this out after i bought a bike and the lad had replaced all the hoses with silicone (looked good)
yep 5 mins down the road we got a really strong smell of fuel coming from the back of the van thank god we weren't smoking as the fuel line had started to perish and during transit split wide open
Title: Re: New inlet rubber for the carburetors
Post by: Roky on 13 April 2018, 06:19:30 am
I removed the carb yesterday and to my surprise the joint rubber which connects the carb and enginr block are not cracked trough. Not a single one. They all have cracks on the surface, bot not one crack goes trough. So there could not be any air going in the mix trough rubber.
Title: Re: New inlet rubber for the carburetors
Post by: celticdog on 13 April 2018, 07:25:34 am
Here's the rub, the carbs on the fzs 600 are now heading for being 20 years old. To put it bluntly, they're getting focced. It may be that replacing the inlet rubbers is not the answer.
There are plenty of used carbs on ebay, some will be usable, some not. Either way if they've done the mileage on a 20 year old bike they're going to require some attention.
Brass tarnishes over the years and rubber perishes over time too; in an environment of petroleum mist and any fine particulates that get past your filters it's no surprise if your throttle response
isn't great when you put the bike under load. In the past I've changed the plugs, plug caps, TPS, air and fuel filters, and cleaned the airbox till it gleams all to no avail. Turns out as I use the bike for commuting
in all weathers, I was getting a bit of water leakage through the petrol cap, once I replaced this things were better but not perfect. The bike runs better in good weather! Anyway my point is the carbs need cleaned and balanced regularly and in some cases it's worth replacing the O rings and other bits as required. Just my tuppence  :)
Title: Re: New inlet rubber for the carburetors
Post by: fazersharp on 13 April 2018, 11:59:14 am
I removed the carb yesterday and to my surprise the joint rubber which connects the carb and enginr block are not cracked trough. Not a single one. They all have cracks on the surface, bot not one crack goes trough. So there could not be any air going in the mix trough rubber.
Would be interesting to hear how the others on here that are changing have found the inside conditions. Pictures of the outside condition would be good to compare how bad they have to look before they do actually crack all the way through.
Title: Re: New inlet rubber for the carburetors
Post by: Roky on 13 April 2018, 12:05:09 pm
I removed the carb yesterday and to my surprise the joint rubber which connects the carb and enginr block are not cracked trough. Not a single one. They all have cracks on the surface, bot not one crack goes trough. So there could not be any air going in the mix trough rubber.
Would be interesting to hear how the others on here that are changing have found the inside conditions. Pictures of the outside condition would be good to compare how bad they have to look before they do actually crack all the way through.

I looked at cracks and I estimated, that they were aprox 2-3 mm deep , so there should be still some rubber left. The problem is that now I don`t know what caouses the problem with acceleration...
Title: Re: New inlet rubber for the carburetors
Post by: fazersharp on 13 April 2018, 12:18:09 pm
I removed the carb yesterday and to my surprise the joint rubber which connects the carb and enginr block are not cracked trough. Not a single one. They all have cracks on the surface, bot not one crack goes trough. So there could not be any air going in the mix trough rubber.
Would be interesting to hear how the others on here that are changing have found the inside conditions. Pictures of the outside condition would be good to compare how bad they have to look before they do actually crack all the way through.

I looked at cracks and I estimated, that they were aprox 2-3 mm deep , so there should be still some rubber left. The problem is that now I don`t know what caouses the problem with acceleration...
I have an interest here because I have craks but only minor and have filled them with black silicone.
Are the thou ones te same as the 600
Title: Re: New inlet rubber for the carburetors
Post by: Disorderlypunk on 13 April 2018, 12:59:41 pm

I have an interest here because I have craks but only minor and have filled them with black silicone.
Are the thou ones te same as the 600



nope - 5DM-13586-00 and [/size]5DM-13596-00 are both fzs600 specific (according to fowlers)
Title: Re: New inlet rubber for the carburetors
Post by: daviee on 13 April 2018, 04:12:49 pm
easiest way to check them is start the bike let it idle and then spray the inlet rubbers with brake cleaner if thee revs go up they are leaking if not they are good , and punk mine were tarted up with what looks like rubber paint never had any problems so far so im not overly concerned the cracks on most are only on the surface
Title: Re: New inlet rubber for the carburetors
Post by: Disorderlypunk on 13 April 2018, 04:50:59 pm
easiest way to check them is start the bike let it idle and then spray the inlet rubbers with brake cleaner if thee revs go up they are leaking if not they are good , and punk mine were tarted up with what looks like rubber paint never had any problems so far so im not overly concerned the cracks on most are only on the surface
the first half of my last post was ment to be a shortened down quote from fazersharp - i obviously shortened it a little too much
mine are cracked aswell but only on the outside so im not too bothered what they look like at the moment
but definatly taking notes about these chinese ones
Title: Re: New inlet rubber for the carburetors
Post by: fazersharp on 14 April 2018, 11:46:36 am
What gets me with the Chinese stuff is that they seem to go overboard with the low low cost and as a result produce "some" real crap in terms of fit and or materials. Take those inlet rubbers at £15 - what's wrong with another £10 on to and be able to produce twice the quality, £25 still very cheap. People on here have also had fitting issues with Chinese radiators.     
Title: Re: New inlet rubber for the carburetors
Post by: Disorderlypunk on 14 April 2018, 01:05:00 pm
What gets me with the Chinese stuff is that they seem to go overboard with the low low cost and as a result produce "some" real crap in terms of fit and or materials. Take those inlet rubbers at £15 - what's wrong with another £10 on to and be able to produce twice the quality, £25 still very cheap. People on here have also had fitting issues with Chinese radiators.     


i think i read that the outlet pipes are at the wrong angle or something - if its just the carb warming pipe thats wrong then i will be laughing as i will just have them tig welded over as i dont use the carb warmers on mine i just bypassed them as the pipes were bunged full of crap and was on and off with the carbs all the time
Title: Re: New inlet rubber for the carburetors
Post by: matt7chunk on 14 April 2018, 02:59:43 pm
Fitted my Chinese inlet rubbers yesterday, (outside ones anywsy) the 2 inside rubbers were perfect, no uv damage maby?


Job went without a hitch and they seem fine quality, vacuum pipes firmly in place for now , bargain
Title: Re: New inlet rubber for the carburetors
Post by: Roky on 23 April 2018, 08:16:35 am
Got my Chinese inlet rubbers in less than 20 days, and I have changed them over the weekend. It took some skill tko get all four rubbers at the same time in the carb, but I did it. the engine is running, now I just have to drive it to see if the problem with decrease of rpm in quick throttle open is still happening.


Title: Re: New inlet rubber for the carburetors
Post by: celticdog on 23 April 2018, 10:42:05 am

Got my Chinese inlet rubbers in less than 20 days, and I have changed them over the weekend. It took some skill tko get all four rubbers at the same time in the carb, but I did it. the engine is running, now I just have to drive it to see if the problem with decrease of rpm in quick throttle open is still happening.

Good to hear that they're of usable quality, I ordered a set at the weekend. Gives me enough time to overhaul the carbs before they arrive.
Title: Re: New inlet rubber for the carburetors
Post by: Roky on 23 April 2018, 10:52:03 am

Got my Chinese inlet rubbers in less than 20 days, and I have changed them over the weekend. It took some skill tko get all four rubbers at the same time in the carb, but I did it. the engine is running, now I just have to drive it to see if the problem with decrease of rpm in quick throttle open is still happening.

Good to hear that they're of usable quality, I ordered a set at the weekend. Gives me enough time to overhaul the carbs before they arrive.

Quality is ok, the only problem with mine was that the brass tubes are not shaped right, and they tend to much towards engine. But I is possible to point them to another direction :)
Title: Re: New inlet rubber for the carburetors
Post by: redmandan on 23 April 2018, 03:14:32 pm
After superglueing the brass post back in they're working great. As I rev the engine I can see them changing shape slightly as the pistons suck from the carbs so they must have great fitting.
Title: Re: New inlet rubber for the carburetors
Post by: celticdog on 23 April 2018, 05:09:12 pm
After superglueing the brass post back in they're working great. As I rev the engine I can see them changing shape slightly as the pistons suck from the carbs so they must have great fitting.


That's a good point, how did you blank off the vac ports- do they come supplied with blanking caps?
Title: Re: New inlet rubber for the carburetors
Post by: redmandan on 23 April 2018, 06:27:38 pm
After superglueing the brass post back in they're working great. As I rev the engine I can see them changing shape slightly as the pistons suck from the carbs so they must have great fitting.


That's a good point, how did you blank off the vac ports- do they come supplied with blanking caps?


I just used the old ones that were on my original Yamaha rubbers. They're still in good nick.


I toyed with the idea of throwing away the little metal clips that hold them on as they are so bent now its almost impossible to open them.