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General => General => Topic started by: mickvp on 30 September 2013, 07:33:50 pm
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Not exactly sure what to make of this TBH... no smoke without fire and all that.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=319_1380522846 (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=319_1380522846)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2438620/Shocking-video-Range-Rover-crashing-bikers-surround-vehicle-annual-street-ride.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2438620/Shocking-video-Range-Rover-crashing-bikers-surround-vehicle-annual-street-ride.html)
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Bloody hell! Hope the guys that got hit are ok.
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Hell, what a mess,
i reckon the range rover must of upset them earlier..
I think he shit himself later,(or her) :lol
Them bikes will be getting bad press over there
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Foccin ell!!!, what a mess!......so they seemingly harrass someone in the 4x4 & although you cant see what starts it all exactly i think he bumps one of the bikes early on & then they all surround and block him in.Im guessing that someone then tries to haul him out of the car & he floors it.
they then catch him up, surround him again, try to haul him out the car again.....& get run over again! :rolleyes
theres too many unknowns from this video but it's not the first pack of bikes in USA getting extremely irate that i've seen recently.nothing like going out for a nice ride with a few mates...in the US it seems go out with your shorts on with 300 mates & ride along the motorway getting focced off & then kicking off! :\
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From what i have read the guy had his wife and kid in the car, looks like he may have just panicked and felt intimidated, no excuse for hitting the bikers but there do seem to be a lot of conflicting reports about it :rolleyes
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The clip seems deliberately edited to miss out what pissed the bikers off at first. For all we know they could have just decided to give an SUV a load of shit for the crack.
We can only go from what is shown in the video, and it looks like the SUV driver panics a hell of a lot. TBH I can't blame him for doing what he did, and I can't say I wouldn't have done the same.
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Been a few videos of this sort from the states recently. While I'm sure most bikers over there are perfectly OK, there does seem to be these big gangs of street / stunt bikers which behave as a mob. If I were a regular US based biker I'd be very concerned over the impression these types of bikers giving of the average motorcyclist.
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Without knowing what started it , it looks like six of one and half dozen of the other , if my car was surrounded by a gang of bikers I don't think I would get out and try to reason with them either , self preservation is a foccin strong instinct .
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If I were a regular US based biker I'd be very concerned over the impression these types of bikers giving of the average motorcyclist.
I just saw this on facebook. What a mess.
Definitely concerned as a biker from the US. This kind of video gets out and makes everyone on two wheels seem like an asshole. I wonder if this group was looking for an excuse to act crazy or harm someone.
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Not sure what i would of done, but if my wife and child were in the car then i might of seen red mist as well.
And a car will always win.
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In the circumstances who can blame him? I think it starts when the spanner on the white GSXR looking thing at about 27 seconds is dawdling about right in front of him and gets nudged. To be fair the range rover driver was probably distracted looking in his mirrors at the mass crowd behind him... He stops, they surround him and start to attack the car with his family inside and he floors it taking out what looks to be only the bikes, not bikers. Who can blame him? What did they expect when they surrounded him like that the 2nd time?! I think he did well to only knock one over then and he managed to pick the KLE which to be honest probably did the guy a favour. "Here have some valve bounce, that'll show you!" .... Americans.... Maybe he got the last copy of GTA 5 and they all followed him from the shop he bought it from? Either way, they're not doing the "bikers are all big scary thugs that want to hurt you and must be avoided at all costs" image any favours.
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From what i have read the guy had his wife and kid in the car, looks like he may have just panicked and felt intimidated, no excuse for hitting the bikers but there do seem to be a lot of conflicting reports about it :rolleyes
I'd do the same. If I felt my child was in danger I'd run the foccers over too. When they started smashing the windows in I'd have reversed over a few of them too.
And as for the bloke that got run over at 5:00... if you'd just seen someone in a 4x4 run over your mates why the foc would you stop in front of him :rolleyes
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Not sure what i would of done, but if my wife and child were in the car then i might of seen red mist as well.
And a car will always win.
+1, my kids safety beats anything. AAC incident (At All Costs).
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It'd be nice to know how the car got in the middle of an annual biker rideout in the first place. Something similar happened (without the violence) on the MAG go slow ride the other year and we ended up with a few cars tailgating in the middle of a lot of bikes and we had a police escort. Regardless of that though, it's hard to side with the bikers when they've acted like this.
Wonder if that guy has helmet and leathers cover in his insurance?
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My call is the bikers fault. To brake check a Range rover is stupid in the first place. If the range rover cut them up, whatever, the bikers should have been mature and just got over it.
Boxing in the car and the intimidation is just immature. The guy felt under pressure and wanted to get out of a mob of bikers, who can blame him.
These bikers give riders a bad name.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2438620/Shocking-video-Range-Rover-crashing-bikers-surround-vehicle-annual-street-ride.html#ixzz2gO2yjwDI (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2438620/Shocking-video-Range-Rover-crashing-bikers-surround-vehicle-annual-street-ride.html#ixzz2gO2yjwDI)
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Wonder if that guy has helmet and leathers cover in his insurance?
The guy smashing the window? It's not insured if you smash it up intentionally, claiming for that would be fraud.
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mmmm :rolleyes the only thing missing there was a petrol tanker and the toe cutter :lol mad max eat your heart out
seriously though.............this and the one posted last week doesn't do us any favours, you have to wonder with helmet cams why the full picture hasn't been painted and I'm not pointing the finger here, just wondering
if its a case of cam man didn't see the start of it then ok maybe a small accident occurred and the driver felt too intimidated to get out with that many bikers around...........even if you wanted to exchange details I think most peeps would stay in the car especially with family involved and it looks like it just escalated to a point where a kick off was the only outcome
sad state of affairs for all concerned
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If you run into the back of someone then its your fault.....what he did after that is inexcusable
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Dont forget that we are talking about the states. When the driver first flys over the bike/bikes who is to say one of the bikers was not reaching in to his jacket for a gun, so the driver floors it.
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more footage
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3cd_1380579664 (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3cd_1380579664)
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Wonder if that guy has helmet and leathers cover in his insurance?
The guy smashing the window? It's not insured if you smash it up intentionally, claiming for that would be fraud.
Was a joke ;)
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Tell you what, if my wife and kids were in there and I was driving I would drive over every one of those arseholes to keep them safe. I don't intimidate easily, but that would probably do it. A biker gang of 50 or so, and all you have is your car to defend yourself... Simples
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If you run into the back of someone then its your fault.....what he did after that is inexcusable
Troll
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If you run into the back of someone then its your fault.....what he did after that is inexcusable
Troll
+1
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http://www.wtsp.com/news/national/article/337947/81/Wife-says-man-paralyzed-after-NYC-motorcycle-road-rage (http://www.wtsp.com/news/national/article/337947/81/Wife-says-man-paralyzed-after-NYC-motorcycle-road-rage)
been on ride out when car driving idiots get in the pack and drive like dicks.
I would have been one of those that chased him down
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If you run into the back of someone then its your fault.....what he did after that is inexcusable
Troll
+1
Looks like you've got a bum chum
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http://www.wtsp.com/news/national/article/337947/81/Wife-says-man-paralyzed-after-NYC-motorcycle-road-rage (http://www.wtsp.com/news/national/article/337947/81/Wife-says-man-paralyzed-after-NYC-motorcycle-road-rage)
been on ride out when car driving idiots get in the pack and drive like dicks.
I would have been one of those that chased him down
And now the cops would be looking for you too! Why would you do it.
We get cut up all the time by cars why rise to it, if no-one gets hurt. Use video footage or get the plates and report it.
The rover driver isn't being charged for anything, and several bikers are being questioned or charged according to the article.
Its gone viral across the world and bikers are being cast in more bad light because of some testosterone fuelled twats.
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http://www.wtsp.com/news/national/article/337947/81/Wife-says-man-paralyzed-after-NYC-motorcycle-road-rage (http://www.wtsp.com/news/national/article/337947/81/Wife-says-man-paralyzed-after-NYC-motorcycle-road-rage)
been on ride out when car driving idiots get in the pack and drive like dicks.
I would have been one of those that chased him down
Would you be one of those that pulled a knife out?
Some of the bikers, apparently angry over the collision, started to confront the driver and, at one point, started to slash his tires.
And as for people who 'get in the pack and drive like dicks', I take it you haven't watched the video? A lot of those bikers are riding like idiots. If you want to have your own bit of road, go hire a track.
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More from CNN -
http://us.cnn.com/2013/10/02/us/new-york-bikers-attack-video/index.html?hpt=hp_t2 (http://us.cnn.com/2013/10/02/us/new-york-bikers-attack-video/index.html?hpt=hp_t2)
Bike gang called "Hollywood Stuntz" - So stupid.
Apparently one of the bikers that got hit is paralyzed and in a coma.
What a bunch of punks and probably want-to-be thugs.
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so let me get this right
while driving along minding his own business he was engulfed by up to 75 motorbike riding like total arse holes
after an altercation a bike which is riding in a dangerous manner suddenly slows/stops brakes in front of him for no reason
he hits the bike and his car is then set upon but the rest of the motorcycle group
in his car he has his wife and 2yr old daughter and fearing for his and there lives' take off hitting several of the attackers
he is then followed but the large group of angry bikers and is cornered and attacked again , and yet again he try's to get away from his attackers knocking several of them over , before finally being cornered and attacked by the mass of bikers
and now the bikers are complaining that the police aren't going to charge the car driver
if you have time watch the other clips to see just how bigger arseholes these bikers where ! weaving through traffic cutting every one up riding down paths blocking roads so they will have the only route through traffic ignoring road sign and traffic signal !
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According to that article the cager hasn't been charged with anything despite putting someone in a coma. I know they're looking at the whole incident but the police seem be condoning running people over. I wonder if the driver or his wife called the police and got advised to do that?
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"cager hasn't been charged" maybe they are looking at it as self-defence ?
to be honest if I truly believed my wife and children were at risk , I think I may do the same as him !
and I would challenge anyone to say they wouldn't do the same !
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Knowing how things work in the states - it wouldn't surprise me if the Range Rover driver didn't get in trouble.
I'm not taking sides, just saying.
Apparently this is all over the news channels back in the States. Of course it's in NYC so it gets a bunch of media coverage. Media coverage is so bias towards the Northeast and Southern Cali.
Anything to take our minds off the government shut down.
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as much as I feel for the biker and his family , after watching the clips , I cant help but feel their own group behavour brought this upon him
and if the cager is charged with anything , will all the bikers in the clips also be charged both with threating behavouir and the hundreds of offences filmed before the inccident
"One of those bikers was Mieses. His wife, Dayana Mieses, says he had gotten off of his bike to help the injured biker who was hit in the initial collision" you cant see this from the video but maybe the injured man was really just trying to help.but !!
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"cager hasn't been charged" maybe they are looking at it as self-defence ?
to be honest if I truly believed my wife and children were at risk , I think I may do the same as him !
and I would challenge anyone to say they wouldn't do the same !
I'm not saying I would've acted any different if I/my family had been threatened but I'd also expect punishing for running people over.
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"cager hasn't been charged" maybe they are looking at it as self-defence ?
to be honest if I truly believed my wife and children were at risk , I think I may do the same as him !
and I would challenge anyone to say they wouldn't do the same !
I'm not saying I would've acted any different if I/my family had been threatened but I'd also expect punishing for running people over.
Seriously? So you'd just sit there and take 50+ people, with weapons, threatening you and your family?
They're obviously twats, It's a pity he didn't take out a few more of them :|
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"cager hasn't been charged" maybe they are looking at it as self-defence ?
to be honest if I truly believed my wife and children were at risk , I think I may do the same as him !
and I would challenge anyone to say they wouldn't do the same !
I'm not saying I would've acted any different if I/my family had been threatened but I'd also expect punishing for running people over.
Seriously? So you'd just sit there and take 50+ people, with weapons, threatening you and your family?
They're obviously twats, It's a pity he didn't take out a few more of them :|
I'm not saying I would've acted any different if I/my family had been threatened...
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"cager hasn't been charged" maybe they are looking at it as self-defence ?
to be honest if I truly believed my wife and children were at risk , I think I may do the same as him !
and I would challenge anyone to say they wouldn't do the same !
I'm not saying I would've acted any different if I/my family had been threatened but I'd also expect punishing for running people over.
Seriously? So you'd just sit there and take 50+ people, with weapons, threatening you and your family?
They're obviously twats, It's a pity he didn't take out a few more of them :|
I'm not saying I would've acted any different if I/my family had been threatened...
But you'd expect to be punished? It was self defence and IMO he hasn't done anything wrong to be punished for.
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"cager hasn't been charged" maybe they are looking at it as self-defence ?
to be honest if I truly believed my wife and children were at risk , I think I may do the same as him !
and I would challenge anyone to say they wouldn't do the same !
I'm not saying I would've acted any different if I/my family had been threatened but I'd also expect punishing for running people over.
Seriously? So you'd just sit there and take 50+ people, with weapons, threatening you and your family?
They're obviously twats, It's a pity he didn't take out a few more of them :|
I'm not saying I would've acted any different if I/my family had been threatened...
But you'd expect to be punished? It was self defence and IMO he hasn't done anything wrong to be punished for.
Yes, if by my actions someone was in a coma I would expect there to be consequences, two wrongs do not make a right.
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Yes, if by my actions someone was in a coma I would expect there to be consequences, two wrongs do not make a right.
In that case I'm glad you don't run the country ;)
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I have watched this video a few times now , and seen the news footage , and I would have driven off as well , I wouldn't have given a fuck about the welfare of the twats threatening my family . Surely you have the right to defend yourself . If you were in your home and a mob broke in and attacked you and you had the opportunity to defend yourself , you would .
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More videos here (http://www.carthrottle.com/7-videos-the-nyc-bikers-dont-want-you-to-watch/). Not watched them all but from what I gather it's more footage of them riding like idiots.
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All the stick this guy probably had for buying a big 4x4, his mates saying what dya need that big behemoth for man?, when do you ever go off road.......little did they know that they would need it one day to tackle the worst obstacle....an angry mob of motorbikers! :eek ....land rover maybe got a few more sales coming their way. :evil
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We are never going to know exactly what happened.
I'm wondering if some sort of weapon was brandished at the driver so in order of self preservation he floored it and what/whoever was in front of him got totalled. From then it spiralled out of control.
Quiet scary really, all those bikers just doing what they want.
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Apart from this appalling incident it looked like fucking good fun, spoiled by pavements, wrong side of the road and a few wheelies from the 13% brigade :D
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We are never going to know exactly what happened.
I'm wondering if some sort of weapon was brandished at the driver so in order of self preservation he floored it and what/whoever was in front of him got totalled. From then it spiralled out of control.
Quiet scary really, all those bikers just doing what they want.
It says in the article linked earlier that they were trying to slay his tyres, so several have knives by the sounds of it
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my only comment ....its USA , what do you expect ???? :rolleyes
and...corollary ....amazed no shots were fired, not much of a "street gang" as depicted then eh ?? What do they use, harsh language ?
and..no feckin way would I put my bike in front of any range rover driver ( or any car come to think of it )..what did they think they were doing ??...suicide bikers :o