VNA....it's quite simple

Yes it's simple Dazza, take your racist, facist pish somewhere else.
It's a BREXIT thread Dazza.

 I personally find any promotion of Stephen Yaxley Lennon offensive.
Links to so called ‘Tommy Robinson’s’ facebook page etc should have no place on this forum.
 

96 horses--you'd be better buying a Burgman 

It's not a sportsbike or a hyper naked.  It's a cool retro bike.
Not riden one, but I'd be very surprised if didn't feel more than quick enougth.  Don't for get the 80lbs-ft torque.

 

ok.
 its an emotive issue on both sides, so lets try and take that out of it.
 lets assume my reason for leaving isn't valid, along with whatever every other leavers reason was.
 lets assume mt tread and vna are right to say because remain had a certainty to it that leave didn't, we should have abandoned what we really wanted to do, and voted to stay in a corrupt (just in our view obviously) system, ruled by people we didn't vote for, who gradually encroached upon every aspect of our lives with rules we had no say in.
 And that instead of "dying on our feet rather than living on our knees" (again just our opinions obviously), we should have stayed on our knees.

Dear oh dear Ogri.
I think we have already in this thread established that the EU is actually a democratic union.
Rhetoric is all well and good.  But 40 odd pages in and we are still hearing off the EU “gradually encroached upon every aspect of our lives with rules we had no say in” yet so far when pressed the foc u BREXITEERS have come up with;
Daylight running lights
Graded bananas
Oh and lets not forget Dazza’a great grandfather.

Lets go so far as to assume that they are right about everything, and the 17.4 million who voted to leave are impudent, racist, etc etc all the other names that have been thrown at us.

Stephen Yaxley Lennon rightly got called out as a fascist and racist.   Indeed Nigel Farage tore up his UKIP membership card in disgust at his appointment.

Now, perhaps it was wrong for Cameron to allow the common people to decide their future. But he did it.

Yup in order to kill UKIP and win and election he gambled on our EU membership – membership that he himself believes is of great importance to our union.  What an ass.
 

So i'll only ask this and with the greatest of respect...Mt tread/VNA...are you not democrats? I mean if your not, obviously thats fine, each to their own, I was just sincerely wondering, thats all

Firstly, I don’t believe we should allow the Tory party to wreck this nation.
Secondly, I don’t believe people voted for unemployment and more food banks.
Thirdly – two countries in this union voted to REMAIN.  My country voted decisively to REMAIN, I fully expect the Scottish Parliament and our representatives at Westminster to fight to REMAIN in the EU.  If you believe in democracy you’ll understand and respect that.
Fourthly – BREXIT was not defined in the referendum.  Yes the race card was played, the central message of being 350 million a week better off was a blatant lie and illegal foreign money was used in the campaign.


So aye some off us are mighty pissed off at this English Tory mess.  Right now the UK is adrift at sea with nobody at the helm. 
 
 

 So I think we can all see that voting LEAVE does not necessarily mean leaving the EU without a deal – ie a NO DEAL BREXIT.


And remember the EU is an economic union.


The UK is a sovereign union.


So not only does voting leave not necessarily mean leaving the single market, it was only England and Wales that voted to LEAVE.


Two countries in this union voted to REMAIN.


So we can safely say that two countries in the union, along with ¾ of our united parliament are absolutely solidly against NO DEAL.


And of those who talk of victory,  Well, I’d say it best to be wary of defeating your own. 



 Be carefu whit ye hark fae.
 
 

Again I say, how do you know all of those who voted Leave wanted a 'No Deal' version? What gives you the right to speak for 52% of the population? How do you know that none of them wanted to leave but with a Norway type deal? What utter arrogance!

A lot of em voted for what the LEAVE campaign campaigned for.  This;

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    When I voted Leave I assumed it meant a No Deal type exit.
 
 
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    Make that 2
 
 
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    Make that 3
 
MAKE THAT 4. And Im beginning to tire a tad at the assumption that I didnt know what I was voting for. I did. And I would do the same again.
make that five. and me too....

So you guys, you now tells us, voted for a NO DEAL BREXIT. 
But NO DEAL was not on the voting slip.
And nor did the LEAVE campaign advocate it.
 

I can see there being civil unrest across the country.
It's spreading across Europe.
I see the French lawyers have joined in and the people in Brussels have started to stir.
People are seeing the EU for what it is......

They are not protesting against the EU.  They are protesting against their governments.
Which is what we should have done.  What we are doing is trying to blame the EU for the action of sucessive UK governments.
Though we may well see civil unrest if the UK leaves the EU in a NO DEAL scenario.  That is perhaps when finally those who voted to LEAVE will understand that once again they have been conned.

I like the silver and black one.  Mmmmmm.