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Something else - it looks like the jabs do not stop you getting or stop you transmitting it. I see the questions have been asked a few times direct to Hancock and the way he skips over them looks suspicious to me, like he knows they don't work on that basis but just says there is not enough data and quickly moves on. Telling the public that would destroy any confidence in the vax.
Quote from: fazersharp on 07 January 2021, 11:44:16 amSomething else - it looks like the jabs do not stop you getting or stop you transmitting it. I see the questions have been asked a few times direct to Hancock and the way he skips over them looks suspicious to me, like he knows they don't work on that basis but just says there is not enough data and quickly moves on. Telling the public that would destroy any confidence in the vax.This is not a concern for me, most vaccines stop transmission by killing the virus within our bodies, before it takes hold and we become infectious, there's no reason to think this won't either, it's just too soon to tell. Handcock isn't (for once) telling lies or destroying confidence they simply don't know at present no one does, there isn't any data to pass on as yet. Even if they don't a vaccinated individual will get greatly reduced symptoms, in the case of Covid it should prevent death and hospitalisation, a bad cold or non fatal flu at worst, I've no doubt there will still be deaths but small, vaccines aren't cures. The NHS can cope with these worse cases and normal life as it was can return for the vast majority of us. As with all viruses they mutate (as Covid has) but this can be mitigated against as they do with flu, by adjusting the vaccine to suit strains/variants. By high uptake of the vaccine we achieve what's referred to as 'herd immunity' which prevents mass infections.The issue here is can the government, deliver what they've said i.e. 13 million vaccinations of the most vulnerable and frontline workers by mid Feb and the over 50's and under 50's vulnerable by Easter ish that's approx 17 million, 30 million in total, with the rest 23 million ish not including under 16s over to follow months achieving herd immunity late summer/autumn ish.
As it is a respiratory disease, you breathe it in an out. If you have the vaccine, you can still have the virus in your airway due to recently breathing it in and therefore still breathe it out before it tries to infect you. You wont get infected because of the vaccine but you can still spread it about. Common sense really.
I had a go at the vaccine calculator which gives you a rough guide as to when you can expect the invite for a jab. I'm 50 now, and when I checked last week the date was early June, but checked again yesterday and it was mid July to October.
You got that wrong im afraid --- having the vax but still spreading it by breathing it in and then out to others but the vax stopping you getting it yourself You get the vax and as far as we know you can still get the virus but as your immune system already knows what to do ( thanks to the vax ) it then can kick in before the viral load gets big enough tooverwhelm your system and so hopefully saving lives. As you still have the virus with the vax - the common sense bit is that you can still pass it on. Hancock avoids or flips over these questions - bats it off as "not enough data" - I say there is and they know.Which is why they are saying that you still have to wear a mask and continue all the current procedures after you have the jab
You got that wrong im afraid --- having the vax but still spreading it by breathing it in and then out to others but the vax stopping you getting it yourself
Quote from: fazersharp on 07 January 2021, 01:32:23 pmYou got that wrong im afraid --- having the vax but still spreading it by breathing it in and then out to others but the vax stopping you getting it yourself You know what I mean though
How come our MP's and MSP's have been given priority status for Covid 19 Vaccinations.
Personally I would like to see them all have it live on TV.
Why?
Quote from: Oldgit on 08 January 2021, 11:14:50 amHow come our MP's and MSP's have been given priority status for Covid 19 Vaccinations.Personally I would like to see them all have it live on TV.
If they told us to jump of a bridge would we do it without them demonstrating it was safe first?
Seriously though, it would be good PR for the vaccine
If they were going to try and go to down that route then getting some idiot like Bieber or maybe a Footballer to have it live on TV would convince millions more than Boris ever could
People seem to forget that the flu jab is modified EVERY year to try and cope with the most recent strains, so it is hardly tested for long periods of time at all.Which is why some years you might get the odd very minor side effect, but for most years you don't.
Pleased for you both Dave and Coffee.Any side effects at all as yet
Quote from: fazersharp on 10 January 2021, 01:47:43 pmPleased for you both Dave and Coffee.Any side effects at all as yetThere won't be, and even if there was that doesn't in the slightest mean that those effects would apply to you as well.Same as when you get medicine prescribed by a doctor that comes with a leaflet pointing out the vast "possible" side effects, which basically means that some poor sod around the world had an adverse reaction and to avoid prosecution they have to list it as a precautionary measure.I had to take some antibiotics two weeks ago that i don't think i've ever had before, and the long list of side effects made absolutely terrible reading to the point where i questioned even wanting to consume them, but as per usual they were totally fine.
What i want to know is whether this is going to be a yearly jab like the other flu one. Are we going to be going forward with the elderly etc getting 2 jabs every winter instead of one? I reckon there's a good chance that's going to be the case but hopefully we can go know as normal every year instead of locking down and hiding all winter