Date: 01-05-24  Time: 19:39 pm

Author Topic: Fazers in CAD  (Read 3626 times)

ChristoT

  • Alleged Foc-u Daphnis & Chloe expert
  • GP Hero
  • ******
  • Posts: 5,207
  • Fluent in English, French and bullshit!
    • Main bike:
      FZS600 98-99
    • - Saab 9-3, caravan, hang glider
    • View Profile
Fazers in CAD
« on: 26 February 2014, 11:24:51 pm »
I thought it may help me to model my project in CAD, to work on a few details. However, I was unable to find any files for the Fazer (any model, bar the 250) to give me a starting point!

So, I thought I'd start a group initiative: model the bikes in 3D, to make a full CAD model that users can then use for precisely my kind of project (or even details like checking fits of new parts!).

I shall start on the FZS600, although certain parts will carry over to the Thou (and other bikes I'm sure!).

I have a copy of Autodesk Inventor 2013 on my laptop, but if we agree on a common file standard, I'm sure most CAD programs will open the files.

Anyone with me on this?
The Deef's apprentice

Dead Eye

  • GP Hero
  • ******
  • Posts: 3,753
  • What doesn't kill me, will only make me stronger.
    • Main bike:
      FZS 1000 Gen1
    • - FZS600 00-01
    • View Profile
Re: Fazers in CAD
« Reply #1 on: 27 February 2014, 01:22:47 am »
Surely for modularity you are going to have to design each component separately and given the volume of components, the amount of man hours you are going to have to put in to this are going to be fairly astronomical?

Doddsie

  • WSB Pack Hound
  • *****
  • Posts: 795
    • Main bike:
      FZS600 00-01
    • View Profile
Re: Fazers in CAD
« Reply #2 on: 27 February 2014, 01:32:41 am »
 :eek ........ Im lost already!!

midden

  • Operation Foc-UTree
  • GP Hero
  • ******
  • Posts: 2,546
    • Main bike:
      FZS600 02-03
    • - Falcon Stealth
    • View Profile
Re: Fazers in CAD
« Reply #3 on: 27 February 2014, 01:33:39 am »
Will there never be an end to this project  :'( :'( :rollin :rollin
Women have chocolate men have bikes.....
including ones who like chocolate....;)

red98

  • GP Hero
  • ******
  • Posts: 6,567
    • Main bike:
      FZS 1000 Gen1
    • - FZS600,CB400/4,X7,CB250
    • View Profile
Re: Fazers in CAD
« Reply #4 on: 27 February 2014, 05:54:51 am »
will there ever be a start  :rolleyes ..... :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
One, is never going to be enough.....

slimwilly

  • GP Hero
  • ******
  • Posts: 3,698
  • I love to ride them hills
    • Main bike:
      FZ1 Faired Gen2
    • View Profile
Re: Fazers in CAD
« Reply #5 on: 27 February 2014, 06:18:12 am »
He is lost in this world
An ageing test pilot for home grown widgets that may fail at anytime.

ChristoT

  • Alleged Foc-u Daphnis & Chloe expert
  • GP Hero
  • ******
  • Posts: 5,207
  • Fluent in English, French and bullshit!
    • Main bike:
      FZS600 98-99
    • - Saab 9-3, caravan, hang glider
    • View Profile
Re: Fazers in CAD
« Reply #6 on: 27 February 2014, 07:38:21 am »
Liam: that was the plan, yes. However, as a back burner project, if several people contribute, I reckon it would be a worthwhile exercise. Plus, no-one said it had to be done by next week!
The Deef's apprentice

Dead Eye

  • GP Hero
  • ******
  • Posts: 3,753
  • What doesn't kill me, will only make me stronger.
    • Main bike:
      FZS 1000 Gen1
    • - FZS600 00-01
    • View Profile
Re: Fazers in CAD
« Reply #7 on: 27 February 2014, 09:58:34 am »
I'm not sure you can count on many, if any, people helping as CAD work is a fairly rare skill

mickvp

  • Global Moderator
  • GP Hero
  • *****
  • Posts: 2,246
    • Main bike:
      FZS 1000 Gen1
    • View Profile
Re: Fazers in CAD
« Reply #8 on: 27 February 2014, 10:16:40 am »
I got some spare time in work today to have a play. It's autocad we use in work as well primarily.

Here's a good start for you



Sorry, I know it's not perfect :rollin

adeejaysdelight

  • WSB Pack Hound
  • *****
  • Posts: 974
  • I love riding my bike!
    • Main bike:
      FZS600 00-01
    • - Tuono RSV, YZF 1000, CBF 125
    • View Profile
    • www.roadrashjeans.com
Re: Fazers in CAD
« Reply #9 on: 27 February 2014, 10:45:22 am »
Looks about right to me Mick  :lol
Not quite sure what to do with my early mid-life crisis. Ideas on a post card to P.O.BOX 150...

Andy FZS

  • GP Hero
  • ******
  • Posts: 1,137
    • Main bike:
      FZS 1000 Gen1
    • View Profile
Re: Fazers in CAD
« Reply #10 on: 27 February 2014, 11:14:39 am »
Ah that's the later version with the under seat exhaust, what about the earlier one?..

noggythenog

  • GP Hero
  • ******
  • Posts: 4,991
    • Main bike:
      Other
    • - TRX Noggyfighter
    • View Profile
Re: Fazers in CAD
« Reply #11 on: 27 February 2014, 11:20:32 am »
I got some spare time in work today to have a play. It's autocad we use in work as well primarily.

Here's a good start for you



Sorry, I know it's not perfect :rollin



Mick this is amasing!!!!!..........just like looking at photograph.......uncanny






Can you do one of the noggyfighter, with grey rentec crash bars so i know how thy'll look???
Easiest way to go fast........don't buy a blue bike

ChristoT

  • Alleged Foc-u Daphnis & Chloe expert
  • GP Hero
  • ******
  • Posts: 5,207
  • Fluent in English, French and bullshit!
    • Main bike:
      FZS600 98-99
    • - Saab 9-3, caravan, hang glider
    • View Profile
Re: Fazers in CAD
« Reply #12 on: 27 February 2014, 11:47:48 am »
The OP was serious...

It would actually be a useful tool. Anyone actually interested?
The Deef's apprentice

mickvp

  • Global Moderator
  • GP Hero
  • *****
  • Posts: 2,246
    • Main bike:
      FZS 1000 Gen1
    • View Profile
Re: Fazers in CAD
« Reply #13 on: 27 February 2014, 11:53:14 am »
I was being serious too, it is auto cad we use in work.

I wouldn't have much tims to commit to helping out with it though, I'm not sure how much use the end result would be anyway? (For e.g. it would be a standard bike in the end, so Amy custom m stuff would also need to he drawn up in cad. It just seems a longer way than taking measurements and making a hand sketch to me)

By all means though, crack on with it if you think it will help you build your project bike :)

ChristoT

  • Alleged Foc-u Daphnis & Chloe expert
  • GP Hero
  • ******
  • Posts: 5,207
  • Fluent in English, French and bullshit!
    • Main bike:
      FZS600 98-99
    • - Saab 9-3, caravan, hang glider
    • View Profile
Re: Fazers in CAD
« Reply #14 on: 27 February 2014, 12:01:24 pm »
My thinking is that once a standard bike has been built, it allows users to check their mods in 3D. Like, say, the effect of a painted frame. And if people upload their mods to a database, others can then check look and fit on their machines. I reckon as a community resource, it would prove to be very handy!
The Deef's apprentice

His Dudeness

  • GP Hero
  • ******
  • Posts: 2,801
    • Main bike:
      I don't own a bike
    • View Profile
Re: Fazers in CAD
« Reply #15 on: 27 February 2014, 12:25:26 pm »
It would take 1000's of hours to do and how are you going to measure each component accurately enough to ensure your new part would fit the bike? Not just sizes but angles and curved surfaces. You'd have to be certain the drawings were accurate or there'd be a good chance your new part wouldn't fit or it might interfere with another part that you didn't draw. It's a good idea in theory but in reality it would be a massive job. Photoshop would be a better way to go just to get a rough idea of how your design would look.

John Silva

  • WSB Pack Hound
  • *****
  • Posts: 656
    • Main bike:
      FZS600 02-03
    • View Profile
Re: Fazers in CAD
« Reply #16 on: 27 February 2014, 12:56:18 pm »
Ditto the above as I have used CAD and photoshopping is far easier than the time it would take to get CAD drawings.
Biking is about the Journey NOT the Destination...

bird

  • Cager in Training
  • Posts: 9
    • Main bike:
      FZS600 00-01
    • View Profile
Re: Fazers in CAD
« Reply #17 on: 27 February 2014, 01:00:21 pm »
Made this (if attachment works) in Microstation a couple of years back!

midden

  • Operation Foc-UTree
  • GP Hero
  • ******
  • Posts: 2,546
    • Main bike:
      FZS600 02-03
    • - Falcon Stealth
    • View Profile
Re: Fazers in CAD
« Reply #18 on: 27 February 2014, 05:40:04 pm »
will there ever be a start  :rolleyes ..... :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
True,  my bad should've added talk ;)
Women have chocolate men have bikes.....
including ones who like chocolate....;)

fazersharp

  • GP Hero
  • ******
  • Posts: 6,921
  • 10 stone Racing Snake
    • Main bike:
      FZS600 98-99
    • View Profile
Re: Fazers in CAD
« Reply #19 on: 27 February 2014, 05:52:47 pm »
Im still laughing from the auto cad picture
I don't do rain or threat there of. dry rider only with no shame.

midden

  • Operation Foc-UTree
  • GP Hero
  • ******
  • Posts: 2,546
    • Main bike:
      FZS600 02-03
    • - Falcon Stealth
    • View Profile
Re: Fazers in CAD
« Reply #20 on: 27 February 2014, 05:54:00 pm »
I get the impression most on the site love their fazer for what it is as it is, save handlebars and down pipes Christo.
Although interesting and highly skilled,   What u propose doing on cad and to your fazer, is imo, like scrambling an omelette because you love omelettes :)
Women have chocolate men have bikes.....
including ones who like chocolate....;)

JoeRock

  • WSB Pack Hound
  • *****
  • Posts: 907
    • Main bike:
      FZS600 02-03
    • View Profile
Re: Fazers in CAD
« Reply #21 on: 27 February 2014, 06:36:46 pm »
I get the impression most on the site love their fazer for what it is as it is, save handlebars and down pipes Christo.
Although interesting and highly skilled,   What u propose doing on cad and to your fazer, is imo, like scrambling an omelette because you love omelettes :)


Just get scrambled eggs!

red98

  • GP Hero
  • ******
  • Posts: 6,567
    • Main bike:
      FZS 1000 Gen1
    • - FZS600,CB400/4,X7,CB250
    • View Profile
Re: Fazers in CAD
« Reply #22 on: 27 February 2014, 06:57:17 pm »
foccing brilliant mick ,lol  :lol ....is there no end to your tallents  :D ........see you`ve fitted it with some low profile p6000 tyres.....dont think thats been done before  ;)
One, is never going to be enough.....

rustyrider

  • GP Hero
  • ******
  • Posts: 1,057
    • Main bike:
      FZS600 98-99
    • View Profile
Re: Fazers in CAD
« Reply #23 on: 27 February 2014, 07:04:17 pm »
What u propose doing on cad and to your fazer, is imo, like scrambling an omelette because you love omelettes :)
Totally agree.  A Fazer is a Fazer and we all love them for precisely that.  A pimped up Fazer is no longer a Fazer, it's just something that somebody has built to detract from the original.  I've seen the project bike and if it were me doing it I would simply rebuild everything exactly as it was the day it came out of the factory.  I'd clean, repaint or polish everything so it is spotless and then put it all back together so you end up with a new, old Fazer.  OK, I'd add a hugger for practicality, a belly pan because I think they look right and a different can so it has a bit of crackle to it.  Other than that, I'd keep it standard.

If you've never found it, have a look at the crap on www.barryboys.co.uk.  The person that has done unspeakable things to an innocent car thinks it's great, the rest of the world thinks it's a joke.  We don't really want a Fazer to be the first bike to appear there......

midden

  • Operation Foc-UTree
  • GP Hero
  • ******
  • Posts: 2,546
    • Main bike:
      FZS600 02-03
    • - Falcon Stealth
    • View Profile
Re: Fazers in CAD
« Reply #24 on: 27 February 2014, 07:09:51 pm »
I get the impression most on the site love their fazer for what it is as it is, save handlebars and down pipes Christo.
Although interesting and highly skilled,   What u propose doing on cad and to your fazer, is imo, like scrambling an omelette because you love omelettes :)


Just get scrambled eggs!
exactly Joe ;)
Women have chocolate men have bikes.....
including ones who like chocolate....;)