Cadbury moved production of several brands to a factory in Poland 2011 with EU grant. Despite promising the workforce they would not. That's the EU'S fault or Cadburys? (Who 'owns Cadburys)
Ford Transit moved to Turkey 2013 with EU grant. (Turkey isn't in the EU- Turks build Ford Transits cheaper with less strikes)
Jaguar Land Rover has recently agreed to build a new plant in Slovakia with EU grant, owned by Tata, the same company who have trashed our steel works and emptied the workers pension funds. They have not yet said what UK plants will lose out. (And TATAs inability to compete effectively is the EU'S fault - or hey why don't they make the stuff in India..Chinese manage to make it in China!
Peugeot closed its Ryton (was Rootes Group) plant and moved production to Slovakia with EU grant. That move was not wanted by Peugeot, it was forced on them by EU blundering and cost then dearly. The EU of course said 'Dear PCT you must move your expensive operation somewhere cheaper or else)
British Army's new Ajax fighting vehicles to be built in Spain using Swedish steel at the request of the EU to support jobs in Spain with EU grant, rather than Wales. (Just assembly)
Dyson gone to Malaysia, with an EU loan. (I didn't believe this till I checked Financial Times) The British Army may be able to afford two of them - The British Army is bringing back tonnes of steel from Germany ..I think the point here is that a part of the EU is manufacturing military hardware..big deal..do the Spanish get pissy about French missiles assembled in the UK then?
Crown Closures, Bournemouth (Was METAL BOX), gone to Poland with EU grant, once employed 1,200. So a business survives by relocating to where labour costs are sensible..what a bloody crazy idea.
M&S manufacturing gone to far east with EU loan. The far east is where clothes get made- in sweat shops and bought by British People...all the EU's fault durrr
Hornby models gone. In fact all toys and models now gone from UK along with the patents all with with EU grants. When was the last time you spent your pocket money on a plastic model? Kids don't want them..period
Gillette gone to eastern Europe with EU grant. So it appears that businesses that want to make a profit can locate their manufacturing base where it works for them..and within the EU..all that's being said is that business is business..wonder how thise cheeky Slovaks can compete WITHIN THE SAME RULES
Texas Instruments Greenock gone to Germany with EU grant. Have you ever been to Greenock? I have..
Indesit at Bodelwyddan Wales gone with EU grant. EU seems to be just the ticket for subsidies to British industry - pity the workforce cant compete
Sekisui Alveo said production at its Merthyr Tydfil Industrial Park foam plant will relocate production to Roermond in the Netherlands, with EU funding. Moving ones manufacturing closer to market..wow how green, how efficient..
Hoover Merthyr factory moved out of UK to Czech Republic and the Far East by Italian company Candy with EU backing. Its an Italian company! BTW why not squinny about Dyson just because they brought part of their operation back is that forgivable..Its just business in a global economy
ICI integration into Holland’s AkzoNobel with EU bank loan and within days of the merger, several factories in the UK, were closed, eliminating 3,500 jobs AKZO Coatings (SIkkens by another name) are a quality product and know what they are doing., They acquire a competitor and are then expected to compete with themselves? get reaL
Boots sold to Italians Stefano Pessina who have based their HQ in Switzerland to avoid tax to the tune of £80 million a year, using an EU loan for the purchase. (Now sold on again) The EU isn't responsible for Hapless George and his failure to tackle corporate tax avoidance
JDS Uniphase run by two Dutch men, bought up companies in the UK with £20 million in EU 'regeneration' grants, created a pollution nightmare and just closed it all down leaving 1,200 out of work and an environmental clean-up paid for by the UK tax-payer. They also raided the pension fund and drained it dry. (Joint CEOs charged with financial trading fraud, insider trading) A crime is a crime..I think your said these people committed a fraud using EU funds and are being prosecuted ..hardly the EUs fault other than due diligence needs to be carried out and there are areas where the EU must be slimmed and made more accountable. Ian Duncan Smith would sort that kind of sleazy stuff out presumably? pardon me I think I just wet myself
UK airports are owned by a Spanish company. Hmm Rolls Royce are owned by the Jerries ..lets not piss our partners off would seem a good idea rather than bemoaning their business acumen and ability
Scottish Power is owned by a Spanish company. Hoots Mac Manuel..stop buying their electricity at once..make your own..(jeez)
Most London buses are run by Spanish and German companies. Bloody hell..didn't know that..they did seem freakishly reliable
The Hinkley Point C nuclear power station to be built by French company EDF, part owned by the French government, using cheap Chinese steel that has catastrophically failed in other nuclear installations. Now EDF say the costs will be double or more and it will be very late even if it does come online. Hmm Bloody EU power stations we should be getting BNFL and Barrat to build a proper British one...except..err ..WE ARE SKINT
Swindon was once our producer of rail locomotives and rolling stock. Not any more, it's Bombardier in Derby and due to their losses in the aviation market, that could see the end of the British railways manufacturing altogether even though Bombardier had EU grants to keep Derby going which they diverted to their loss-making aviation side in Canada. New trains contract awarded to German company. Yes Siemens do make an efficient product and have an understanding of Market forces..wasn't aware Canada was in the EU
39% of British invention patents have been passed to foreign companies, many of them in the EU - So we are good and inventing things and selling them on..I think you said the British inventing industry thrives within the EU
The Mini cars that Cameron stood in front of as an example of British engineering, are built by BMW mostly in Holland and Austria and those parts assembled in the UK. His campaign bus was made in Germany even though we have Plaxton, Optare, Bluebird, Dennis etc., in the UK. The bicycle for the Greens was made in the far east, not by Raleigh UK but then they are probably going to move to the Netherlands too as they have said recently. What a great example of a quality product manufactured globally and assembled in Britain-rather than China..well done..was that the incorrect answer.
Anyone who thinks the EU is good for British industry or any other business simply hasn't paid attention to what has been systematically asset-stripped from the UK. Name me one major technology company still running in the UK, I used to contract out to many, then the work just dried up as they were sold off to companies from France, Germany, Holland, Belgium, etc., and now we don't even teach electronic technology for technicians any more, due to EU regulations. No we don't engage in non profit making activity and have ceased to be competitive in many. It is therefore down to us to innovate and capture market share in specialisations..Ladies and Gentlemen I give you Formula one and motorsport in general..technology and engineering in large part..English.
Yes some companies are in the UK with EU funding, but have you noticed that many, like Tata, are planning to shift the production away again, as soon as they will not have to pay a penalty to the EU for doing so. Hundreds already did, just using British skills to develop products and then opt for lower labour costs, often with a serious loss in quality too like Bosch alternators. Many employ staff only on a part-time basis, minimum wage and even those sent by DWP to work for nothing, those get just their benefits. Again the mantra of 'The World owes us a living' no it doesn't and as for the vile DWP..A Tory monstrosity..not an EU one
I haven't detailed our non-existent fishing industry the EU paid to destroy, nor the farmers being paid NOT to produce food they could sell for more than they get paid to do nothing, don't even go there. Okay..I wont remind you that in the 16th Century Glasgow was a Salmon Fishery..and there are Salmon running in the Clyde again..bloody EU responsible for fishery protection and environmental laws. In typical Scottish efficieny mode we are now selling deep fried in batter two headed salmon in down town Possilpark ..Thank you Royal Navy and your radioactive leaks
I haven't mentioned what it costs us to be asset-stripped like this, nor have I mentioned immigration, nor the risk to our security if control of our armed forces is passed to Brussels or Germany. Ohh dear Asset stripping - who gets the money- who lets it happen? Hmm yes YOUR ELECTED GOVT..stop confusing the two. Immigration yeah..Vote Leave...you will want to when the Gendarmes are helping ISIS onto the Dover Ferry
The way companies abuse the EU commercial assistance system is not doing the EU, Britain or any other country any favours. It has massive loopholes that are simply exploited and no-one in Brussels has the wit nor sense to change it. Change in the EU is slow at best and in most cases, next to impossible due to the intense lobbying by companies with a vested interest in abusing this very broken system. I know Margaret Thatcher was not many people's favourite person, but she did get a number of measures agreed that have now been completely eroded and sadly, by her own party. Mr Junker has said that any more 'special status' for Britain will be difficult and will face legal challenges. In other words, we will not get most of them, if any.
If the EU may break up in the event of Britain voting to leave as suggested by both leaders of the Bundesbank and European Central Bank, then in all honesty, we have as a nation been propping up a failed system for too long, It will probably fail anyway, taking anyone still 'in' with it. Thus, this vote you have is not exactly 'remain' or 'leave', it is more an issue of jumping off the sinking ship while we have a chance to swim ashore now, or waiting till it is in really deep water and going down with it.
Cor Blimey a massive rant which boils down to the UK needs to have effective domestic Government and Governance..The SNP have a solution..pity the rUK isn't equally industrious and imaginative
Find something that's gone the other way, I've looked and I just can't. If you think the EU is a good idea,
1/ You haven't read the party manifesto of The European Peoples' Party. Because I don't vote for them..never will but would want to be part of a Europe where I did vote for representatives and could hold their performance to account at the ballot - all of them..the only way to achieve this is to be fully engaged and grown up..instead of saying 'The big boys made me do it'
2/ You haven't had to deal with EU petty bureaucracy tearing your business down. Yet businesses do survive and flourish if they engage with the system and commit to operating efficiently
No - businesses can and do survive- prosper/ You don't think it matters.[/size]
Well what a load of bilious bollocks that was..NEXT