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Title: french fuel
Post by: fazed on 16 February 2014, 04:33:53 pm
I'm off to France in May with my gen1 fazer 1000. 


I'm a bit concerned about putting the E10 fuel in my 02 Fazer. 


I know that Ethanol can attack various materials used in fuel systems like hoses and rubber seals etc.  Has anyone had a problem with using the E10 stuff in their bike?  I had a look on the MCI website and Yamaha claim that any motorcycle built after 1990 will be ok if the ethanol content is no more than 10% but I thought it wise to ask about actual experiences.....


thanks
Title: Re: french fuel
Post by: eddie on 16 February 2014, 04:36:57 pm
No problem...just ride and enjoy the roads

Title: Re: french fuel
Post by: locksmith on 16 February 2014, 05:04:12 pm
Whats e10 fuel?

They have normal unleaded like us, least they have every year I go there!
Title: Re: french fuel
Post by: esetest on 16 February 2014, 05:10:08 pm
I wouldn't so much worry about that , but take a credit or debit card as there are plenty of  unmanned petrol stations , also don't let it go to low , not a lot of garages open on a Sunday .
Title: Re: french fuel
Post by: bigbluebear on 16 February 2014, 05:38:01 pm
And your other choices???????????
Title: Re: french fuel
Post by: bobdog on 16 February 2014, 05:49:11 pm
I wouldn't so much worry about that , but take a credit or debit card as there are plenty of  unmanned petrol stations , also don't let it go to low , not a lot of garages open on a Sunday .


if your using a credit/debit card use a master card for some reason some of them dont take visa

Title: Re: french fuel
Post by: Kosmic Kartman on 16 February 2014, 06:07:32 pm
Whats e10 fuel?

They have normal unleaded like us, least they have every year I go there!


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_ethanol_fuel_mixtures (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_ethanol_fuel_mixtures)

 ;)
Title: Re: french fuel
Post by: sadlonelygit on 16 February 2014, 08:38:24 pm
Steer clear of e10 fuel if you can as although it did no harm, the bike ran like crap last summer.
French card acceptance is pretty random  at best. Keep €10 handy to give to a local at a pump so you can tag on their bill
Title: Re: french fuel
Post by: esetest on 16 February 2014, 09:10:52 pm
Also let the bank know if you are planning to use your cards abroad , as they may decline the payment if you don't .
Title: Re: french fuel
Post by: g5guzzi on 16 February 2014, 10:17:09 pm
You could use the more expensive petrol.I did last year & after two tank fulls my bike felt smoother & was better on fuel.
 
malc
Title: Re: french fuel
Post by: locksmith on 17 February 2014, 09:33:37 am
Whats e10 fuel?

They have normal unleaded like us, least they have every year I go there!


[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_ethanol_fuel_mixtures[/url] ([url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_ethanol_fuel_mixtures[/url])

 ;)


Please don't tell me you read all of that :lol

As far as I know they have two unleaded pumps (as we do), normal and super. Just look for the 95ron if you are unsure.
And yes, credit cards can be a problem-especially on a Sunday :)
Title: Re: french fuel
Post by: pitternator on 17 February 2014, 01:42:45 pm
E10 is getting more prevalent as its a bit cheaper. I always try to put super in my bikes abroad as it does make it run better .Especially at any altitude.
Title: Re: french fuel
Post by: Kosmic Kartman on 17 February 2014, 06:17:40 pm
Locksmith, I've not read it. The link was put there for you to read.  ;)
Title: Re: french fuel
Post by: PaulSmith on 18 February 2014, 02:49:15 pm
The only one to be careful of is "E85" which is ethenol with some petrol. It is usually cheapest and it is fine to use for a tank or two but the Fazer wont run as well or get the usual milage. E10 (petrol with some ethenol) or SP-E10 (Petrol with a little ethenol) is fine as it is the same stuff you are probably using already in the UK but the French a) tell you and b) charge less for it.

Title: Re: french fuel
Post by: fazed on 19 February 2014, 08:46:46 pm
Thanks everyone.  ok I'll play safe & go with the 'super'.  yeah know what you all mean about availability of stuff outside towns - can be a bit tricky so keep topping up seems to be the thing on that one.
Well - roll on Le Mans in May! 
Title: Re: french fuel
Post by: lew600fazer on 19 February 2014, 11:43:37 pm
Never had trouble with E10 fuel or getting petrol any day of the week, but yes do tell your bank that you are going abroad as the feckers blocked my card after 2 transactions.
Lew
Title: Re: french fuel
Post by: fazed on 09 May 2014, 02:32:02 pm
Saw an article in a newspaper (the i) which said that the 15% ethanol mix on sale in the US was damaging engines as it runs hotter and apparently leaner as well as having a corrosive effect.  Just thought I'd mention it.  Definitely going to run mine on 'super' in France and keep a pocket full of Euros too - just in case. 
cheers all.
Title: Re: french fuel
Post by: bobdog on 11 May 2014, 03:23:22 pm
2 weeks after getting back from france/germany last year the o rings on the float needles gave up, in time these do go brittle, maybe coincedence probably french fuel.
Title: Re: french fuel
Post by: baldy on 12 May 2014, 11:17:17 pm
e10 petrol refers to the percentage of ethnol in the fuel.uk petrol already has five or ten percnt ethnol in it depending on which petrol storage or refinery it was collected from.chances are you are using 10% ethnol anyway.
Title: Re: french fuel
Post by: fazed on 22 May 2014, 04:16:47 pm
Got back from Le Mans on Monday night.  Used 98 Super the whole time I was there with no problems at all.  French roads were excellent, when I got back to the UK found that the m4 was closed between Junctions 14 and 15, yes  J 15 was where I wanted to go - typical........