Fazer Owners Club - Unofficial
General => General => Topic started by: Bitfik on 17 May 2012, 09:05:27 pm
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Hi, so I left the Fazer in for a service (gonna be a sore one). Two tyres, chain and sprockets and front pads at least :(
They offered me a Deauville or a Honda PCX. I wanted the smallest one so took the PCX. Nice little bike I gotta say. Got that engine cut out at traffic lights thing too, economical.
Anyway, leaving my local town in a 30 zone past the local high school and sitting around 30-35 two cars passed me.
Now I do tend to stick quite close speed limits in the 30, 40 and 50 zones even on the Fazer but that is the first time I have been passed here. Is it because I was riding a scooter?
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Is it because I was riding a scooter?
No, it's probably because the drivers are ar$eholes :2guns
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I'd say yes. I nodded at a scooter rider the other day by accident, took 3 showers to feel clean again.
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I'd say yes. I nodded at a scooter rider the other day by accident, took 3 showers to feel clean again.
wasn't bitfik was it :lol
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traitor !! :eek ....you should be demoted to ..cager in training????? :o
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I'd say yes. I nodded at a scooter rider the other day by accident, took 3 showers to feel clean again.
:rollin
Can be confusing though, because some of them do look like bikes when approaching from the other direction.
Must admit I have done it a couple of times as well :o :o
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Whenever Ive ridden someone elses small bike YBR 125 on L-plates or a loan Vity scooter from dealer the cagers do everything possible to overtake me even though Im at or close to relevant speed limit 30/40 built-up areas-I wouldnt mind so much if I was on a national speed limit road. Strange thing is that when Im on the thou they seem to keep their distance(apart from a few idiots). Conclusion....Size matters! :rolleyes
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Also quiet exhausts atract old ladys, they appear from everywhere
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you bunch of snobs
q "is it beacuse i was on a scooter?"
a no car drivers a dicks when it comes to bikes
and as for the feeling dirty about giving a scooter the nod it is not about what you ride just as long as you RIDE
that been said most scooter rides are worse than the car drivers but not as bad as Truckers, kings of the road" more like court jesters
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:pokefun was a joke
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Jeez...
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anybody out there got a sense of humour for sale?? :z
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and as for the feeling dirty about giving a scooter the nod it is not about what you ride just as long as you RIDE
that been said most scooter rides are worse than the car drivers but not as bad as Truckers, kings of the road" more like court jesters
must say on the its not what you ride just as long as you ride - if your on a scooter and you are only wearing shorts t shirt and a helmet then yes your a pi!!ock! (yes this weather will bring out those idiots on bigger bikes too!!)
also I cant understand why go to the lengths of wearing all the protective equipment if your not gonna wear gloves!
if a scooter nods at me I will nod back but most are riden by 16/17 year olds that dont know about the nod!
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I ride scooters too, Vespa's, Lambretta's & a Gilera Runner................. Not many teenagers in the circles I hang around with, but plenty of twats that adorn shorts & tee shirts or just as bad, comedy Mods with lights, mirrors hanging off everywhere lol, but we're not all like that, far from it.
If your on two wheels that's good enough for me, but makes me laugh how many bikers won't return a nod when I'm on a scooter........ yet every biker nods when I'm on the Fazer :\
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on the subject of nodding, I always nod if I see another bike but I've noticed I get less nods back in the summer months compared to winter. I also never seem to get a nod from someone with L plates on so I've started to not bother.
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I have had the same in my car
I had a Subaru impreza and no one overtook me or anything that got the road rage juices flowing. But i borrowed a friends beat up corsa for a week and i was treated like dirt on the road people tail gating, cutting me up and pulling out in front of me.
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On my way back from picking up my first ever bike last weekend I got 4 nods from 4 bikes in the space of 5 miles. "I'm well in the biker's club!", thinks me. The next guy who comes towards me I give a nod just to see a motionless head fly past....gutted!! I almost wanted to do a U-turn and ask why he blanked me.
Never realised there was so much to it.
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Are you riding in the same position on the road as normal or are you sliding off to the gutter in shame lol
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On my way back from picking up my first ever bike last weekend I got 4 nods from 4 bikes in the space of 5 miles. "I'm well in the biker's club!", thinks me. The next guy who comes towards me I give a nod just to see a motionless head fly past....gutted!! I almost wanted to do a U-turn and ask why he blanked me.
Never realised there was so much to it.
Was it a BMW rider? :rollin
Only asking I used to ride a Beemer and nodded but have heard from other bikers at work that they can be snobby!
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I nod to all bikers and scooter riders (unless they are twats on scooters or big bikes wearing shorts and t-shirts).
When I started riding I remember my very first outing on my L plated CBF 125, within 5 minutes of being on the road I saw another biker and he nodded, it felt so cool to be "accepted" into this little band of brothers/sisters so I like to "spread the love".
When I started riding I remember a friend (who rides) saying to me that he nods to all riders because "we are all on 2 wheels and vunerable on the road" I've taken that onboard and followed his advice.
BUT, as I've said above I don't nod if I feel you are being a twat (yes it's subjective) but the nod is a mark of respect for a fellow rider and if you are behaving like an idiot or wearing shorts and t shirt then you don't deserve that respect IMO.
Just my 5 pence worth....
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Well I've got to ask, why if I'm wearing shorts and t shirt, I don't deserve any respect?
if I was a pedo, a rapist, a mugger, a wife beater, a racist, or Jedwood then you've got a point but my choice of attire? ;)
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Well I've got to ask, why if I'm wearing shorts and t shirt, I don't deserve any respect?
if I was a pedo, a rapist, a mugger, a wife beater, a racist, or Jedwood then you've got a point but my choice of attire? ;)
I think they key are the gloves. No matter how hot is the -spanish- summer, a real biker wears gloves. Most of times a guy with no equipment does not know what the weave means.
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Well I've got to ask, why if I'm wearing shorts and t shirt, I don't deserve any respect?
if I was a pedo, a rapist, a mugger, a wife beater, a racist, or Jedwood then you've got a point but my choice of attire? ;)
Hmm, I've seen this before somewhere...
It's a personal choice, the same way as screaming down the cycle lane at 30 mph past a line of cars waiting for the lights is. If you feel justified in your decision and can live with the consequences then fair play to you.
When I had a scooter me and my mates only bothered with minimal safety gear and we took the piss out of my mate for wearing a propper bike jacket and me a helmet that cost over £100.
Now I'm on a bigger bike I wear full kit and it would feel odd if I didn't as I've always worn it.
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Sports/ street riders nod to others (mostly) but not to scooters
Harley types nod to NO one
Gold wing types do not nod --- They salute !!!
News just in - I got a nod last night from a harel rider in a german helmet with a scull scarf and shades,.........I bout fell off........
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Sports/ street riders nod to others (mostly) but not to scooters
Harley types nod to NO one
Gold wing types do not nod --- They salute !!!
News just in - I got a nod last night from a harel rider in a german helmet with a scull scarf and shades,.........I bout fell off........
lol on ride home saw biker stood at end of layby so gave hime a nod, and he nodded backas i went past his bike 100yds down said layby noticed his was Harley sportster I was surprised too
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Maybe the goldwing ones weren't british :lol . Here we salute making a "V" with our fingers, way cooler.
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When I've been riding a lot and then get in the car I still find myself nodding to riders - can't seem to help it.
I've also noticed that since riding a cruiser the sports bike riders are quite huffy. I had more Harley riders nod back to me when I was on the Fazer than I have sports bike riders since riding the cruiser.
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I will continue to nod to all other 2-wheel riders EXCEPT the unsuitably attired-they obviously dont respect their own bodies so why should I?
There does seem to be a "pecking order" though BUT as has been said we are all vulnerable so should put aside tribal/brand loyalty. The only cage drivers salutes I see tend to be one or two fingers in the vertical position-this gets more common in the heatwave! :lol
I learnt all about gravel rash & abrasive injuries years ago racing bicycles-it hurts! :'(
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When I've been riding a lot and then get in the car I still find myself nodding to riders - can't seem to help it.
Laughed at that one m8, been there too :lol
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When I've been riding a lot and then get in the car I still find myself nodding to riders - can't seem to help it.
Aye me too, the girlfriend thought I was developing a tick :lol
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When I've been riding a lot and then get in the car I still find myself nodding to riders - can't seem to help it.
Aye me too, the girlfriend thought I was developing a tick :lol
That made me chuckle, :rollin:
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So, when you pass a group of bikers, what is the official nod arrangement? One nod per biker? One or two long nods? One nod for each tightly grouped bunch?
And what is your nod style? How do you rate other nodders?
Up and down? Almost a bow.
Side to side, more like a wink.
Diagonally? Probably the coolest in my opinion. Not that that counts for anything!
I have also had wavers, and one flasher! That was in very poor visibility tho.
I once seen a couple of camper vans acknowledge each other and have wondered if this was a ritual for them too, or did they just know each other?
Who knew this was such a big subject?.. :eek
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Camper vans-another oppressed minority group? :rolleyes
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ah camper vans... well IMHO there are 3 sorts..
VW split screen
VW bay windows
all others
lol
I do the diagonal nod 1 nod each for 1st 3 or 4 in a line then just raise fingers as an acknowledgement
same when i pass a car/van etc thats moved out of my way or I pass another biker going same direction
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When I've been riding a lot and then get in the car I still find myself nodding to riders - can't seem to help it.
Laughed at that one m8, been there too :lol
That leads on to you trying to filter whilst still driving the car :eek
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When I've been riding a lot and then get in the car I still find myself nodding to riders - can't seem to help it.
Laughed at that one m8, been there too :lol
That leads on to you trying to filter whilst still driving the car :eek
I feel the impulse more at traffic lights, especially temporary ones where I normally just jump to the front :D
I used to nod up/down but noticed that I would lose sight of what was ahead of me, so now it's just a kind of nonchalant tilt to the right. A lot of Pan riders like to make a scene and actually wave - I swear to $deity that I wouldn't be surprised if I saw a Pan rider tootling along having a picnic!
If there's quite a few riders oncoming I make the tilt a slow one so I acknowledge about 3 at a time depending on grouping :)
This is almost as big a subject as which urinal to choose in a pub situation (before your pished).
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So, when you pass a group of bikers, what is the official nod arrangement? One nod per biker? One or two long nods? One nod for each tightly grouped bunch?
Generally I nod at the front and then maybe again halfway down a big group.
I go for the diagonal nod myself :)
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The "Pan wave" is remarkably similar to ones royal wave. Goldwing riders cant wave/nod now as "Im on the phone/intercom/music centre & dont want to loose concentration. If H-D riders dont acknowledge-theyre not being discourteous-they just have blurred vision :lol
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I remember a mini owner telling me there was a mini etiquette book with the new models encouraging them to wave at each other.
I go for the diagonal nod, the other types just look like going over a bump or checking a blind spot.
I've seen the light thanks to this thread and now nod to every bike user :)
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This has made me laugh,
I nod to pretty much everyone but am suprised that a good 40% dont nod back... when i rode a scooter back at 16 my uncle told me he always nods to scooters and young kids as they are the next generation of bikers, we all started somewhere...
even the scrootes that live up the street with their winey "peds" i treat with the same respect as the MC riders that i am friends with...
as for my nod, it depends whats coming up, i do try for the diagonal nod and try to get each person, unless they are really close... a friend who i ride with though NEVER nods and it really frustrates me.... I think he needs all his brain power to concentrate on keeping his bike on 2 wheels :rolleyes
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I was going to post this question the other week, you've beaten me to it.
What is the diagonal nod?
With regards to nodding when in cage, yep, been there done it, or when sat at lights and a bike pulls up next to me, I've nodded then (hopefully they've seen the THINK BIKE sticker in the back and don't think I've got a tick LOL)
Yes, have had thoughts of filtering when in the cage, then suddenly realise I can't. Doh! glad we are all as bonkers as eachother!
With regards to waving, I commute every day and see the same riders, if it's been rubbish weather like recently and then we get a fab patch of sun, I'll sometimes wave in the morning because I'm so pleased to be riding in some nice weather so it's more of a big happy (hey, we made it throught the shite weather) wave to my fellow commuters. There are 2 people I see on a regular basis who don't wave, one is on an L Plated custom thing, has been on L Plates since I started riding 3 years ago! :eek The other is a new rider to the journey and he/she's on a burgman scooter, I've nodded and never got one back so I've stopped.
If you overtake another bike do you nod, stick out a boot or put out a hand to acknowledge them? I usually stick out a hand or boot, often wonder if they think the boot means I'm trying to kick them! ha ha
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What is the diagonal nod?
Firstly try nodding your head forward.
Secondly, lean your head to the right, so your ear almost touches your shoulder.
Now imagine combining the two so your head goes towards a direction 45 degrees between straight on and to the side.
Voila! The diagonal nod! :pokefun:
If you overtake another bike do you nod, stick out a boot or put out a hand to acknowledge them? I usually stick out a hand or boot, often wonder if they think the boot means I'm trying to kick them! ha ha
Coming back from Birmingham via the A34 earlier today, I had a bike pass me who appeared to stick out his elbow in response to my wave!
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I nod at cyclists.
They nod to each other, cos I used to be one, and the nod was a common thing. I still do if I see one cycling well, and not being a dick. They NEVER nod back.
Bikers mainly nod back, unless they are the police ones. I think they hate me . . . .
Scooters these days just seem to be driven by arseholes, who ride on the pavement, pop wheelies, and are basically dickheads.
Lorryists are OK with me. Cabbies and buses can take a run and jump . . .
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Nearly always nod or raise my left hand for a wee wave depending on circumstance.
When making progress through cars I always stick my hand out to say thanks to the car I have just pulled in in front of. Surprising how many of them acknowledge you for the gesture :)
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I try to nod to just about about every two wheeler no matter what they ride, i used to get a bit wound up if i didn't get a nod back but over the years i've sort of trained my brain to forget it a split second later, if i'm at traffic lights or in slow moving traffic i occasionally give a thumbs up, also these days i always try and give a quick thumbs up to motorists who have moved to the left to let me filter past. I must confess that their was once a time when my road etiquette was very poor to say the least,(80's LC hooligan days etc,) when i was in that much of a rush everywhere that i didn't have time to think about any other road user but myself. Getting older and turning into steady eddies isn't all bad eh folks!!.
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Bikers mainly nod back, unless they are the police ones. I think they hate me . . . .
I've had a copper on a bike nod back to me before, thought I'd give it a go to see what happened and nearly ran into a lorry when he responded.
If I see another runner while I'm out jogging I try to let on and usually get a response but some of them are obviously above me and don't even make eye contact (they're usually done up in all the hi-glo and latex, I wear football shorts and other "non-running" clothing).
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If I see another runner while I'm out jogging I try to let on and usually get a response but some of them are obviously above me and don't even make eye contact (they're usually done up in all the hi-glo and latex, I wear football shorts and other "non-running" clothing).
You can't run in a crash helmet . . . . :pokefun
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Would have made more sense if I'd mentioned I'm training for this :D
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When I've been riding a lot and then get in the car I still find myself nodding to riders - can't seem to help it.
You should try the Scottish Islands. Generally, it doesn't matter if you are walking, cycling, riding a bike, driving a car, mowing the lawn. Everybody waves, nods says hello.
Then you get back to the mainland. It takes a good few miles to adjust again.
I sometimes think on nice sunny weekends, when everybody is out, all this waving and nodding starts to get in the way of enjoying a ride. It's just constant.
Yup, always nod to the police bikers round here, they always nod or wave back. Plus I've followed them a few times filtering in heavy traffic on the M8, a wee blast of the music and lights makes all the difference.
Oh while I generally nod and wave all the time, I don't do it half way through roundabouts, negotiating junctions or when fully blasting round tight corners. I notice others do, it can compromise your focus on what your doing.
blah blah blah.
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i was filling up sunday morning, the guy at the next pump who had just filled up who was riding some sort of customized chopper bike, you know the type those with the open faced helmet & teeth covererd in dead flies.He almost had to walk passed me to get back to his bike so i looked at waiting for the "the nod" but got nowt he totally foccin blanked me, i thought WTF im invisible, but tossers like him are very few & far between.