Author Topic: Gearbox horrible noise, cant get in or out of gear. FZS600 1998 (Read 10067 times)

Rangrally · « **on:** 30 March 2012, 09:29:42 pm »

Lovely ride back from Uni today until I went down two cogs on the approach to a corner, let the clutch up and is sounds horrible as if the gears are not meshing properly. Cant move the gear selector at all so glided to a halt and got trailered home.

Took the clutch apart and nothing amiss there - sounds like it is trying to select two gears at once though, very jerky drive when easing out the clutch.....HELP!

mike26 · « **Reply #1 on:** 30 March 2012, 11:48:39 pm »

basically 2nd gear is focced

richfzs · « **Reply #2 on:** 31 March 2012, 12:15:10 am »

why 2nd?

Fazerider · « **Reply #3 on:** 31 March 2012, 09:53:47 am »

Sounds more like a bent or broken selector fork to me.
Either way it's an engine-out, crankcase-split job to get it fixed.
A second hand engine may be the cheaper option unless you do the work yourself.

Rangrally · « **Reply #4 on:** 31 March 2012, 10:24:25 am »

Quote from: Fazerider on 31 March 2012, 09:53:47 am

Sounds more like a bent or broken selector fork to me.
Either way it's an engine-out, crankcase-split job to get it fixed.
A second hand engine may be the cheaper option unless you do the work yourself.

I can do the work myself - there doesn't seem to be much metal in the oil so it may just be something bent but it does feel very notchy - will haul the engine out over the weekend.....

born to be mild · « **Reply #5 on:** 31 March 2012, 11:26:39 am »

Sorry to hear about your misfortune, rangrally. I hope that theres not too much damage and its fixes easilly and cheaply. The Fazer seems to be a reliable bike and looking at the posts its rare to find anything major failing like a geabox but I do wonder if the gearbox is a weakness in Yamaha's R&D as Ive seen a few TDM's, TRX's and the old XS1100's advertised mentioning 2nd gear problems a bit like you see alternator problems mentioned on old Suzukis.

Rangrally · « **Reply #6 on:** 31 March 2012, 06:36:15 pm »

Pulled the donkey out today and dropped the sump pan.......full of gear teeth

I now want a complete engine and box, low mileage perfect condition and very cheap please (oh also nearer to Chesterfield, Derbyshire the better!)

Dead Eye · « **Reply #7 on:** 31 March 2012, 07:24:30 pm »

Ouch. That sucks, sorry to hear it dude

Good luck in your rebuild

Fazer Jake · « **Reply #8 on:** 31 March 2012, 07:57:25 pm »

Quote from: Rangrally on 31 March 2012, 06:36:15 pm

Pulled the donkey out today and dropped the sump pan.......full of gear teeth

I now want a complete engine and box, low mileage perfect condition and very cheap please (oh also nearer to Chesterfield, Derbyshire the better!)

Jesus, what milage did that fail at then? Makes me nervous as i'm sure my gear selectors not as it should be

b3tarev3 · « **Reply #9 on:** 31 March 2012, 09:47:59 pm »

Feel for you - 12 months since i had to do a gearbox rebuild...... On a brighter note here's one going cheap, gotta be worth the box.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1999-YAMAHA-FZS600-FAZER-FZS-600-COMPLETE-ENGINE-GEAR-BOX-CASING-OIL-PUMP-/290687820266?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item43ae5821ea

Bracechenko · « **Reply #10 on:** 31 March 2012, 10:26:21 pm »

Quote from: b3tarev3 on 31 March 2012, 09:47:59 pm

Feel for you - 12 months since i had to do a gearbox rebuild...... On a brighter note here's one going cheap, gotta be worth the box.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1999-YAMAHA-FZS600-FAZER-FZS-600-COMPLETE-ENGINE-GEAR-BOX-CASING-OIL-PUMP-/290687820266?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item43ae5821ea

Looks a bit rough that one though

"Has low compression, not sure why?"....doesn't sound great lol

Rangrally · « **Reply #11 on:** 31 March 2012, 10:38:18 pm »

Quote from: b3tarev3 on 31 March 2012, 09:47:59 pm

Feel for you - 12 months since i had to do a gearbox rebuild...... On a brighter note here's one going cheap, gotta be worth the box.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1999-YAMAHA-FZS600-FAZER-FZS-600-COMPLETE-ENGINE-GEAR-BOX-CASING-OIL-PUMP-/290687820266?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item43ae5821ea

Thanks for the tip - I want a complete unit to drop in and go really. Will keep searching!

Kinggy · « **Reply #12 on:** 01 April 2012, 03:23:56 pm »

I was searching for months to find my replacement lump !! I wanted low mileage and very good condition! Managed to finally get one on ebay, Absolutley nothing missing, just a simple drop and swap. Although that didn't come cheap!! I think I won the item for £313 But for a 2002 lump with only 9,000 miles I thought it was a good price to pay

Although I am still awaiting getting the engine in as I don't have the experiance to do it :/ And don't have the funds available at the moment to get the local garage to do it as there wanting £250 ! Althoughh I do wish you luck in Finding the lump as the dreadful slip of 2nd Happened to mine. But I will be back on the fazer hopefully soon

scottyboy2203 · « **Reply #13 on:** 01 April 2012, 04:56:26 pm »

Talk to Deefer on here, I had an engine from him last year for good money and he is based near Kettering off the A14. He can normal fit it for you as well. Good luck!

Rangrally · « **Reply #14 on:** 09 April 2012, 09:10:50 pm »

Dropped the donkey in: got one from Bike Spares in Hull - 15,000 miles minus starter £275. It starts but is lumpy and the carbs are pissing fuel everywhere (they were leaking a little before I swapped the engine)

GROAAAAAANNNNNNN!

Rangrally · « **Reply #15 on:** 10 April 2012, 12:18:24 pm »

Carb No.3 is leaking

re-set the float level and its still leaking.....grrrrr!

Rangrally · « **Reply #16 on:** 16 April 2012, 11:01:17 pm »

Purchased another set of carbs and it runs pretty well (at a standstill at least) but the tacho is now playing up - any ideas?

Fazerider · « **Reply #17 on:** 17 April 2012, 12:02:56 am »

Quote from: Rangrally on 16 April 2012, 11:01:17 pm

Purchased another set of carbs and it runs pretty well (at a standstill at least) but the tacho is now playing up - any ideas?

TPS?

bikemad62 · « **Reply #18 on:** 17 April 2012, 06:54:35 am »

Try your throttle position sensor (It the wire coming of the side of the carbs) The rev counter does a trouble shoot program i think its up to 3000 rpm for throttle sensor. plug your old carbs back into it. If that stops it swap them over. its two screws. Make marks around the screws before changing the sensor is critical to the running of the engine. wrong place it runs like crap. Its easy to do take lots of pictures on ya phone before you start. Hope it helps.

Rangrally · « **Reply #19 on:** 17 April 2012, 01:00:28 pm »

Quote from: bikemad62 on 17 April 2012, 06:54:35 am

Try your throttle position sensor (It the wire coming of the side of the carbs) The rev counter does a trouble shoot program i think its up to 3000 rpm for throttle sensor. plug your old carbs back into it. If that stops it swap them over. its two screws. Make marks around the screws before changing the sensor is critical to the running of the engine. wrong place it runs like crap. Its easy to do take lots of pictures on ya phone before you start. Hope it helps.

You were right! TPS now adjusted and tacho working. Just need to get he carbs balanced now!

bikemad62 · « **Reply #20 on:** 17 April 2012, 07:58:16 pm »

Glad i could help see you on the mayday run with any luck.

Rangrally · « **Reply #21 on:** 18 April 2012, 04:28:17 pm »

Quote from: bikemad62 on 17 April 2012, 07:58:16 pm

Glad i could help see you on the mayday run with any luck.

Where is the May Day run?

bikemad62 · « **Reply #22 on:** 28 April 2012, 06:15:54 pm »

Look for ny Mayday run post. I explained it there. May 7th Locksbottom kent to haxtings sussex. A21

Rangrally · « **Reply #23 on:** 28 April 2012, 09:21:14 pm »

Uh Oh! - thats a bit far for me!