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FZS600 Fazer / 1999 Fazer Rear Shock
« on: 01 April 2013, 09:03:30 pm »
Hi all, hope your having a nice break over Easter.
 
Got a quick question and hoping someone can answer or advise me on it. Washed the bike down yesterday and got a wheel brush in underneath, have trouble getting down due to a back injury. Anyway today I did my normal routine of checking all the nuts, bolts and screws make sure nothing is loose and while looking on the underside best I could I noticed something on the shock which I never have before.
 
I have seen a shock like this before many years ago, was by design but aftermarket and could be stripped and rebuilt but I got no idea is this is the same type of thing or if it should be like it which is why I am asking for advice as I don't even know if it is an original Yamaha or aftermarket.
 
On the bottom of the shock it looks like a piece has broken off, there are a couple of small stones in the bottom of the shock so be easy to spot not to mention the gap. I can't get fully under the bike but from what I could see it looked broken as the shock had black dirt on it and the bit I assume broken had shiny sides or so I thought. I tried my best to get a camera under and took a couple of pictures for you to see what I mean and well the bit I thought was shiny is black the same as the rest of it.
 
The bike is a 1999 model so hoping someone on here has one or had one so knows what they are looking at. So the questions are is it broken, is it supposed to be like that and if not can it be stripped and rebuilt?
 
Thanks for any advice anyone can give me
 
 

 

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General / Re: putting a written off bike back on the road
« on: 25 November 2012, 12:38:18 pm »
Might find that helpful explaining the different groups if you know which category it came under.

http://www.ukwheels.com/Motorbike_writeoff_categories.asp

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Removing the Givi Monorack
« on: 20 November 2012, 05:04:42 pm »
Thanks for the replies, took it off this afternoon and like you said was a few minutes and just got a couple of spacers and the two rear bolts in a little bag inside the top box so I know where they are if or when I refit it.

I decided to take it off Darris for a coulple of reasons, other than I only use a a few times a year. The person who fitted it originally somehow managed to get it on there but the plate wasn't level, only a fraction out but enough to annoy me as it shows from the back and I also intend spraying it as parts of it are worn. Funny thing was when i took it off the left hand arm was full of water so have to find out where that is leaking in.
One of my main reasons for removing it is just down to person preference and probably sounds weird but a safety point of view which is why although I purchased the Givi setup for my old Aprilia I ended up taking it off and just using it when needed as it was a 20 minute job.

My main reason is because of how far the back of the monorack stands up from the seat where the box clips in, I know sounds crazy. Few years ago I was seriously injured when a car at fairly high speed rear ended me while sat at traffic lights. My first instinct and what I was always told to do was let go of the bike, although I had some significant injuries it was probably what saved me as the bike went into the air and I wouldn't have fancied my chances on first being hit then having a GSX-R land on top of me or being dragged along with it.

It just reminds me when riding that if ever anything like that did happen again, fingers crossed it won't but least I stand a chance of sliding off the back of it and not being hit in the spine by a metal fitting as I don't fancy that. Probably sounds paranoid but just gives me peace of mind that's all. 


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I can't believe that they wanted to charge for a new exhaust, professionals so they must have known that was a drain hole I got 3 on mine or maybe 2, on the can and connector pipe.

Just bookmarked that Fazer spares site as well can't believe the price of some of it on there.

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FZS600 Fazer / Removing the Givi Monorack
« on: 19 November 2012, 03:53:36 pm »
Just a quick question hoping someone might know the answer too. When I purchased my 1999 Fazer it had a Givi Monorack and top box with it which I only use about 5 times a year so decided I am going to take it off and just fit it back on when needed like if I am going away. Seems a lot more simple than the Givi I had fitted to my Aprilia that had more bolt on points and harder to get too but back to the question which is about the spacers on the rear footrests, will just post a picture then explain what I mean.
 

 
What I intend to do is remove the rear bolt marked with the red shape, but leave that bracket in place as it bolts on under the seat and bodywork and that's about it so presume that will be safe to do.

I have marked where the rest of the fitting is bolted too through the rear footrest and the bolt to the front has a spacer so it is the same offset as the rear fitting. The bottom of the right footrest also has the support for the exhaust which is really what this question is all about as I intend to do the following.

1. Remove the rear bolt but leave the Givi mounting bracket in place as it is bolted on under the seat/bodywork.
2. Slacken off the exhaust hanger then remove both the footrest bolts so I can remove all of the rack in one piece fully assembled.
3. Replace the footrests using the slightly longer bolts supplied with the Givi rack as I don't have the originals (I presume this should be fine as I don't know the length of the originals)
4. Re-tighten the exhaust hanger
 
What I really want to know is did the footrests originally bolt straight to the fitting on the frame or was there some kind of spacers/rubber fitted in between the footrests and the frame mounting so it aligned with the exhuast hanger?

I am presuming that all this will be fine as then when I want to use the rack/topbox its a 20 minute job just to refit everything where I have left the rear fitting bracket in place.
Thanks for any advice off anyone that fitted one of these themselves, I know the rear bolt being left out and the Givi mounting bracket being left in place should be fine just want to double check if there were any spacers/rubbers fitted between the frame and footrests originally so the exhaust hanger aligns and if using the Givi supplied bolts will be fine, if not anyone got any idea of the length of the originals. 


 

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: heated grips keep turning themselves off
« on: 04 November 2012, 01:45:55 pm »
I had the same problem with Oxford grips on my old Aprilia, went for the new version, which just had the small control with +/- and 4 Led's for power settings and they packed up after 14 months so considered them an overpriced pile of junk. I had an extra problem though not only would mine switch off when they felt like it they would also switch on when they felt like it so nice hot summers day riding along and the grips switch on to 100% so I ended up disconnecting them.

When I asked the shop I got them from they said there had been some problems with the new units, Oxford basically weren't interested and said they were knackered and as the controller unit was sealed not a lot could be done.

I got the original push button/dial type Oxford grips on mine as they came with it and touch wood they are ok but when they do go won't be replacing them with Oxford as like others have mentioned they are over priced for what they are.
 

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: headlight mod or hid,s advice please
« on: 21 September 2012, 12:17:16 pm »
Most of my mates have non standard number plates, can barely see them but never seem to get stopped by the police but the MOT has tightened up now, friend of mine had his ZX10 failed on an undersized plate few weeks back assumed the garage would just over look it or advise him.

Saw a bike the other day, all the rear end removed with just slim line lights in the seat cowling but no mudguard or anything and they attached the number plate to the back of the airbox behind the wheel so can't see most of it apart from the two upper outside letter/number wondering how he never gets stopped.

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General / Re: Osram Nightbreaker - worth it?
« on: 21 September 2012, 01:23:37 am »
I use the Osram Nightbreaker Plus, couple of £ more but I noticed a huge difference compared to the standard, glow orange like a candle standard Halogen bulbs I can actually see where I am going now but then I guess that depends on each person and what they expect and the Plus version last longer.

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: headlight mod or hid,s advice please
« on: 21 September 2012, 12:11:52 am »
That's OK, least you seen what I was on about, I very nearly just got the Osram Nightbreaker which was a couple of pounds cheaper but then read about the Plus version had 50% more life so opted for them, I was also looking at there extra long life bulbs but they are just standard so be swapping like for like only difference being that I think they guarantee them for 3 years. Personally I would sooner go the route I have despite the Xenon not lasting as long as a Halogen and see where I am going.

With the standard set up I could barely see on country roads on low beam, slightly better on high but with the Osram it's made a huge difference with the standard set up of  the nearside on for low beam and then offside switching on with high beam. I tested the bike at the same place, total darkness no lighting at all and before I could just about see where I was going was a nightmare on twisty country roads. When I did the same with the Osram's I could see further on low beam than I could on high beam with the standard Halogens and it is a nice white light not a dull candle glow orange.

If you got the Mod in place already so both headlights are on the low beam should make a big difference.

I know a lot of people have done the HID conversion and like the number plates swap them over at MOT time then back again but that's fine providing you don't have an accident. I got rear ended on my GSX-R several years ago at traffic lights the police had a good look at the bike for anything illegal and the insurance assessor that checked my bike over as it was a write off said he had to report anything that was illegal or non standard that I had no declared to the insurance, even though he was an independant assessor and the claim was off the other persons insurance he still had to make out his report and more or less said the insurance will look for anything to get out of paying out so sooner not take any chances.

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: headlight mod or hid,s advice please
« on: 20 September 2012, 01:24:08 am »
I'm using Osram Nightbreaker Plus bulbs in my 1999 Fazer after removing a botched headlight mod and so far have had no problems plus I got 2x H1, 2x H4 and 5x Ultra White 5w capless bulbs which were free.

I got them all for £26.13 including postage from Amazon, not bad considering I was previously going to pay over £48.00 for exactly the same bulbs and the Halfords range where £18.99 (H1) and £19.99 (H4) for each bulb. The Osram Nightbreaker Plus is also supposed to be UV friendly so will not damage plastic lenses.

These are the links to the bulbs I purchased from Amazon H1 and H4 and there is a link for Osram itself which in the FAQ section states that the bulb is marked with a "U" where it states:

The uppercase "U" indicates a UV-reduced bulb in accordance with ECE requirements (e.g. for use in plastic headlights). All OSRAM halogen automotive bulbs meet these requirements.

All the sites I have looked at when deciding to take this root for improving lighting stated that it is a direct replacement for the standard halogen bulbs, more light but same wattage and the Xenon bulbs at the same wattage don't run any hotter. Can have a look at this site for some details.

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General / Re: What bikes have you owned/own now?
« on: 18 September 2012, 02:13:38 am »
Right can't remember all the years so will just put them in order that I had them, won't be all of them as I been riding since I was seven years old and probably forget some.
 
Bikes used off road - Starting when I was at school and teens, apart from the Honda CR500R that came later.
1979 Yamaha DT50
1974 Ossa 250 Trials
1979 Bultaco Sherpa Trials
1981 Maico 490 Motocross
1997 Honda CR500R Motocross
 
Road Bikes - Few times I had more than one bike at a time, in order of owning them.
1983 Yamaha FS1E DX (New style Fizzy, presume it was a 1983 as it was brand new)
1982 Suzuki GS125ES
1981 Suzuki GT200 X5
1981 Suzuki GT250 X7
1982 Honda CX500 Turbo
1981 Honda CB250RS
1982 Suzuki GS550 Katana
1987 Kawasaki GPZ 750 Turbo
1978 Yamaha XS400
1977 Suzuki GT380 B
1982 Kawasaki Z200
1987 Suzuki GSX-R400 - American Import
2004 Suzuki GSX-R1000
2003 Yamaha XJ600S Diversion
2007 Aprilia 650 Pegaso Strada (New style with Yamaha XT660 engine)
2005 Suzuki AN400 Burgman
2007 Hyosung GV250 Aquila

Current Bike 1999 Yamaha FZS600 Fazer

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General / Re: Any recommendations for decent PCs (NOT Cyberpower)
« on: 15 September 2012, 03:04:32 am »
I have always built my own systems and for friends/family, only a couple of times it worked out cheaper to buy pre-built as all they wanted was basic for internet and office. I still maintain and upgrade my own and friends/family systems so unless there is a major problem it's cheaper just to replace the faulty component.

The Radeon HD6850 works fine with Windows 7, although there had been some issues with freezing and BSOD with certain manufactuers. One thing I never do is load the drivers that come with the cards, they are only tweaked versions of the chipset manufactuer so I always use it direct from them, I use Nvidia card in my system so get the drivers off there site but in your case the driver download would be from AMD but then I do that with any card.

As you said the engineers said the motherboard was knackered and the voltages it could be that causing the other problems, if the voltages are spiking it can damage other components or especially with a graphics card under voltage and the card won't run correctly. Probably find if they said they suspect the motherboard was knackered from new then that is why you had so many problems with the system and having so much replaced.

If it was just the motherboard I would have said just replace that but you mentioned getting new graphics card, CPU and hard drives, although if possible I would try the CPU, graphics card and drives on another system if you could rather than paying out good money if it's just the motherboard that is knackered. You can get budget boards but then I would pay a little extra and go for mid range if you did that as you pay for what you get. So if you know anyone that has a system they are willing to let you test the drives and graphics card on then I would test them first, if they are newish drives they should have SMART on them or download the drive diagnostics from the manufactuer site and run the self tests to tell you the state of the drives, the graphics card is easy as if that works just use a site where you can stress test it plus you.

To give you an idea I just upgraded a friends system few months back with an Asus P8Z68-V Gen 3 motherboard, 8GB of 1600Mhz gaming ram, i5 2500K CPU and a 500GB Western Digital Cavier Blue 6GB/s Sata drive and that cost just under £400 with the motherboard and CPU being the most expensive items. So based on that if you were using the system for just basic things then you could probably build around what you got for around £325 with an entry level i7, be cheaper to go for an i5 2500K as that is faster than some of the entry level i7's, semi budget motherboard, budget graphics something that is still fast like a Nvidia GTX 500 series as they dropped in price since the release of the 600 series, same as AMD if you prefer them and my personal choice a Western Digital drive.
I always used to use either Seagate (they own Maxtor now so buy a Maxtor external and you will find a Seagate inside) or Western Digital but I found that the Western Digital Cavier range to be very reliable and slightly faster, especially over 500GB as my own system I got two 6GB/s Western Digitals and a Seagate Barracuda and that is the slowest of them all despite on paper it should be faster. So now I tend to fit Western Digital rather that Seagate, although again all depends what you want.

I'm lucky enough to have a local shop that more or less matches internet prices, although I do buy a lot of stuff through him so much easier than on-line of there is a problem as you got all the hassle of returns but like someone said you can pick up secondhand stuff off eBay, although it you wanted to go new there are places on-line like:

Overclockers UK
Ebuyer
Micro Direct
Dabs
Aria Technology
NovaTech
Scan Computers
 
All of these sell the replacement parts or pre-built budget systems. If you choose to go along the pre-built route then often like I did with a friend worth paying that little bit extra for a system that has the expansion slots as some very low priced systems have very little upgradable options, most come with onboard graphics and sound but I prefer to disable these and use a dedicated card for that and that onboard feature is just a backup if a component fails until you get a replacement.

Personally though before deciding I would see if you know anyone willing, even if they have an old system they don't use to test the graphics card and drives as seems pointless paying out for things you don't need to replace. Be nice if someone had a motherboard laying about to test the CPU but then that should hopefully be OK as the new ones are designed to prevent damage, although saying that all that side of things is run from the motherboard. Other thing that may have fried your motherboard is the power supply, that's something else I always use a decent one of I'm currently using a OCZ Technology one but the Targus, Antec and Cooler Master are decent ones, there are some other makes so good idea to check out what the popular ones are.

Hope you get it sorted anyway.

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: FZS600 52 Rear brake sticking and Red Hot!
« on: 10 September 2012, 10:28:13 pm »
Last time I had a problem like this was on my GSX-R, sticking pistons in the caliper and had the same effect, rode it for a while then started to heat up to a point where you could feel the brake on all the time and having to stop and let it cool down.

Not sure about the newer models but I know one of the things with the earlier Fazers was good maintenance as the rear caliper could seize.

Be worth just dropping the rear caliper off and having a look it's only 5 minutes just to have a look see if there is any damage/road crud to the piston I just done mine without draining any fluid and cleaned up round the pistons as there had been a build up of brake dust and general weather.

Funny you mention the jet wash, I never used one of them but I had problems after a good wash down and scrubbing all round the caliper with a long bristle tyre brush so must have made the dust and stuff go harder.

If it was anything drastic like the piston/s needing replacing if you live in the UK Wemoto do the pistons and seals and quite a reasonable price, can buy them as a kit.

 

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: 1999 Fazer Headlight Mod Not Working
« on: 10 September 2012, 02:01:34 am »
Forgot to mention the Nightbreaker H1 that I got from them as well Jayplay, forgot to look at what year your's was but mine being a 1999 takes a H1 on the left and H4 on the right so got a set of each and the capless are free for your little 5w 501 bulb.
 
Also forgot to mention there are two types the Osram Nightbreaker and the Osram Nightbreaker Plus, it's the Plus you want to go for as they are the newer version that last longer than the standard Nightbreakers.

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: 1999 Fazer Headlight Mod Not Working
« on: 10 September 2012, 01:52:04 am »
Hi Unfazed

The job was pretty neat, all nicely soldered in just a shame it was soldered to the wrong wire.

The Mod on here shows how to wire it in using the live green wire on the lighting box, which I think goes back to the switch gear can't remember off hand but he ran it off a different wire under the tank and funny as the wire they suggest on here to use he ran a wire past that to the battery.

The problem was as you said. I put a fuse in the relay and worked fine both lights on low beam but the trouble was that when you switched to high beam the low beam never switched off on the right side/offside so with both elements on you had 120w of lighting that side, was pretty hot and blinding then you has the low beam on as it should be on the left/nearside so instead of the 120w of lighting it was running 175w.
Anyway stripped the Mod out now and running standard set up with decent bulbs as it wasn't doing anything anyway with the fuse out the relay.

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: 1999 Fazer Headlight Mod Not Working
« on: 10 September 2012, 01:33:04 am »
Hi Jayplay, the Osram Nightbreaker Plus where just straight swaps so no mods or conversions only difference is standard bulb is Halogen and the Osram Nightbreaker Plus are Xenon but make a hugh difference without having to change anything. The bulbs are rated the same but as 90% brighter, 10% whiter crisp light and only downside is they last slightly less than the Halogen but I am fine with that as I would sooner see where I was going, plus instead of the £48.00 I was going to pay for the Osram Nightbreaker Plus originally I got for £26.13 including the postage with 4 free 5w capless bulbs that are ultra bright.

Got them from AP Motor Store on Amazon.
The bike actually had the mod on it when I got it but they wired it in wrong so I stripped it out as sooner have things as standard. These are the actual H4 I got.
Hope that helps, the original Halogen where like a dull orange colour when they where on, this are nice white colour.

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: 1999 Fazer Headlight Mod Not Working
« on: 04 September 2012, 12:42:36 am »
Well sorted it out on Friday after running the petrol down so I could lift the tank. The wiring mod is now gone and everything back to standard, just snipped off the wire that was soldered on and used some insulating tape around it as it seemed like a nice solid connection so pointless pulling it apart to put a connector in, that's what came out .
 
I was looking at the Ultra series is Halfords bulbs but they were £18.99 and £19.99 each so £38.98 just for one each of the H1 and H4 so decided to look at my original on-line purchase from Autobulbs Direct and the Osram Nightbreaker Plus, they were £23.95 for two of each plus a couple of free capless bulbs for the 5w fitting which I was happy to pay. Before I ordered though decided to look on Amazon and they had the same offer, only half the price. In all cost me £26.13 including postage, the actual bulbs were two H1's for £11.96, two H4's for £12.97 and they also sent four free ultra bright 5w capless bulbs so got a complete new set in there.

Ordered on the Thursday and got them Saturday, although didn't place the order until 11pm so quick delivery.

Tested the bulbs out on a local road with no lighting at all and trees both sides so very dark. On low beam you can see further than the original high beam and on high beam the difference is huge and instead of a dull orange effect these are crisp white light.

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: 1999 Fazer Headlight Mod Not Working
« on: 23 August 2012, 12:24:20 am »
Thanks AdieR, I'm not sure of the load rating of the relay either and seems odd that wired correctly it heats up but incorrectly stays nice and cold but headlights have same effect but can't really be bothered to work that one out as it's coming off, not like it is being used anyway with the fuse out of it and sooner not have obsolete relays and wires that don't have any real function. It's likely what you said that it either is or close to exceeding the capacity.

So once I run the fuel down from a almost full tank going to snip off the red wire in the box that has been spliced and soldered onto the main beam and tape it up as the original wiring should still pretty strong being soldered then that and the blue wire from the headlight that go back to the relay can be taken off and then finally just disconnect the 2 wires from the battery and that's it out the way, just a bit fussy having stuff on it that serves no purpose.

Going to stick to the standard set up and most likely use the new Osram Nightbreaker Plus bulbs as I have had good results with Osram before plus these bulbs where voted best bulb not too long ago.

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: 1999 Fazer Headlight Mod Not Working
« on: 18 August 2012, 12:21:35 am »
Well tested it tonight while it was light, put a fuse in the relay and both light's came on so least I knew it was working, despite intending to pull the lot out was just curious if it did work and why it had been disabled.
 
Thanks to AdieR again for the wiring, looks like it has been wired into the lighting circuit although using the relay and completely bypassing the Mod on here where you use the Green wire when you switch the lights on both low beam come on but when you switch to high beam the low beam stays on so instead of 120w of lighting it's running 175w in total on high beam with 120w of that on the offside, it's actually quite blinding to look into as well and lens gets really hot.
 
I couldn't be bothered to remove the tank and check from where it was spliced and soldered in so disconnected the fused relay and checked from there as I knew the blue wire ran directly from the headlight and the red wire from that block and both to the relay. With the lights off got 0.01v, sidelight was 0.06v and with the lights on got 12.41v also checked with lights off everything else to make sure there was no voltage and the lights was the only one I got the reading on off the red wire with the other probe on the negative of the battery. I checked the heated grips out while I had the stuff out, they were wired in correctly.
 
Thanks to Karlo, especially for the diagram as I found something interesting there. It had been wired from the headlamp to 30, Earth to 85, Positive to 87 and Live Main Beam to 86 but everything worked fine. I took the connectors off and changed it to the diagram which was headlamp to 87, Earth to 85, Positive to 30 and Live Main Beam to 86 and it worked exactly the same, only difference was the relay got quite hot where as the the other way round it didn't but as I have removed the fuse and intend to strip it out guess it doesn't make much difference.
 
Thanks again for the input.

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: I've just got how much MPG?!!
« on: 17 August 2012, 12:05:51 am »
I only had the Fazer a couple of weeks, filled up the first time put in £19.30 which was full but on the side stand and only got 141 miles before the fuel light came on. Refuelled with it on the center stand and funny as it only took £19.00 of fuel this time to completely fill up and this time it was 186 miles before the fuel light came on.

Only difference was first time round it was a mix of town and DC but mainly town, second fill up was more high speed DC. I'm happy with that considering I was using a 250cc for local stuff going to town and that and I worked it out as the fuel tanks were the same size that the 250cc was actually using more fuel than the Fazer.  :eek

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: 1999 Fazer Headlight Mod Not Working
« on: 16 August 2012, 10:59:25 pm »
Thanks for the replies, would have replied earlier but been tied up with stuff.

First off thanks to Karlo, especially for the diagram, should have really known it was a fused relay box but then it was half dark when I was doing it and rushing although have to say I didn't even notice the markings on it even when I uploaded the photo so should be paying more attention but suppose that is what I get when I start a job on my bike and then have to drop that to fix the sister in laws scooter so she can use it for work probably been better off leaving everything off mine till the next morning rather than doing it in the semi dark.  :rolleyes

Thanks AdieR for the heads up on the wiring. It has got heated grips on it and have all been wired in correctly with a separate in-line fuse, probably him that removed the fuse out the relay so it was back as standard as from what I gather the previous owner liked everything as standard so guessing it was the first owner that fitted the Mod.

I have got a multimeter, well got 2 one small one I use for the bikes and a expensive one that I use on other stuff. Think I will do as you suggested and have the tank back off at the weekend once I run the fuel down tomorrow and get the meter on it see where it leads me as I just want to know what it was wired into as I plan on stripping it all out. Funny you mentioned the green wire and the headlight relay as the wire they out in goes straight past that.  :lol

Going to try the fuse at the tomorrow night DanielT, all the ones off my old bike where mini blade and only ones on this I think are the in-line for the heated grips and didn't want to go out and buy a load of fuses when I knew I had a box of standard size somewhere and found them in the shed today so stick a fuse in it and see what happens.

Am going to eventually strip it out and stick to using the 100% or 120% brighter bulbs as I have before, even though it's not working at the moment I'm a bit fussy with having wires or anything that do nothing just on there, plus a couple of other reasons one of which is in the small print of my insurance and a lot today it states the insurance will be invalid if any modification to the wiring has been carried out unless it is an approved product such as the heated grips so they could and most likely would argue that the manufacturer did not class this as an approve Mod.

Apart from that I'm not that bothered, thinking about it the blue (black sleeved) wire goes from the headlight to the relay then on to the battery, the red wire is spliced in from the 3 wire connector on to the relay and then the battery so not like it is completing a circuit it's straight through, guess the person just decided to use a relay instead of the Mod described on here using the green wire.

Thanks for the replies anyway will let you know the outcome.

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FZS600 Fazer / 1999 Fazer Headlight Mod Not Working
« on: 12 August 2012, 10:28:42 pm »
Hi, just brought my self another bike and managed to pick up a 1999 Fazer which I quite like as it's more upright that the old XJ600S I had a while back.
 
I noticed that someone had done the headlight Mod on it or so I thought, not exactly sure what they have done so hoping someone can give me some advice as at first it seemed they had done the Mod on here until I lifted the tank. Started off fine, apart from not working a single Blue wire covered with a Black sheath off the headlight connector so traced it back to inside a little black box under the front of the tank with a load of other connectors in there.
 
Everything seemed fine, until it came out the other side and was now a Red wire and a Blue wire in the original PVC sleeving so I traced the Red wire back inside the box and found that it had been spliced onto a 3 wire Brown connector. The wires were Blue/Black Stripe, Blue and Red/Yellow Stripe and the Red wire had been spliced and soldered onto the Blue/Black Stripe wire.
 

 
The Blue wire actually goes direct from the headlight to a little black unit under the left side panel, the Red wire only comes in once you get to the black box at the front of the tank but also goes to this little black unit under the side panel then both wires connect directly to the battery + and - terminals.
 

 
Be grateful for any advice if it is safe to remove this lot as I want the bike as it came out the factory as I tend to just use bulbs that have 100% extra brightness, plus some insurance companies won't pay out if there is a claim and the wiring has been altered unless it's a shop purchased product which this isn't.
 
The thing I want to know most is what exactly had that Red wire been spliced into as I don't have a wiring diagram so thought some one might know, if it's safe I will snip the red wire off and just tape up the soldered section of wire then remove the red and Blue wire completely. As it is the Mod doesn't work so makes me wonder what exactly they wired it into as everything works fine apart from that.
 
Only other question is when I lifted the tank the 2 pipes came off, does it matter which one goes on which side as I just put them back, one had a slight bit of rust so I put the pipe that had some residue of rust back on that one. Oh one last thing take it the petrol tap is just an on/off position at the back of the tank? These are the pipes.
 

 
Hope I haven't put any one into a coma reading this, just be grateful for any advice especially on removing the headlight Mod and what that Red wire has been spliced into as I don't see the point in having things just wired up that leave me sat there wondering what they are doing as it's not operating what it is supposed too.  :rolleyes
 
Thanks
 
Tim

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