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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Carburetor Spring
« on: 16 March 2018, 01:49:19 pm »
Hey all!
Update news!
First i think the TPS is spring preloaded as when i rotate it using a screwdriver and let it go it snaps back into the original position. Second, it only rotates to one direction.
while i was trying it out again, and removed the TPS i noticed that this little o ring rubber came on with the TPS. This rubber was located inside of the carb where the TPS connects to. When i tried without it i had no issues and the TPS seems to snaggle into place very well. With the rubber on, it does not attach properly and before screw the TPS in there is about 3mm cap between the TPS and the carb. See pictures
Any ideas what this rubber is for?


cheers

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Carburetor Spring
« on: 15 March 2018, 11:14:59 pm »
Hey guys. This is taking my night's sleep now.
I have put the TPS back in place and tried as peer your suggestions to centre it but no matter what i do the bloody thing stops the spring from snapping back. It only allows it to spring back if the screws are bit loosed. Once i tied them down ( and i am doing that using the same amount of turns on each screw at time) it locks the spring.


any ideas on what i am be doing wrong?






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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Carburetor Spring
« on: 12 March 2018, 04:45:20 pm »
FazerRider
Can you explain what you mean by centre the TPS?
cheers


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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Carburetor Spring
« on: 12 March 2018, 04:31:30 pm »
Great guys thanks for all your inputs!
 :D

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Carburetor Spring
« on: 12 March 2018, 02:51:39 pm »
Hey Guys.
I just went home for lunch and decided to have another look. while i was contemplating what would be causing this issue a light bulb come on. Could it be the TPS as i had changed it.
So i removed it from the carbs and bingo! the spring snapped back.
I then put it back on and did not tied the TPS screws as much as it was before and they still snapping back.


So now i will have to reset the TPS but and try not to tie the screws too much.


Strange one


Good thing is that is not the springs that is the problem. But i am afraid that when i put the carbs back and reset the TPS this will happen again as I remember that i had to tied the screws in such way as to have a 5000 RPM steady reading.


Thanks for your help and i will let you know once i have put it back on the bike.


adasilva




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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Carburetor Spring
« on: 12 March 2018, 01:31:31 pm »
Here is the link for the pictures.





https://drive.google.com/file/d/15jRCc1JEuhpaTCbnp4AQikEdvR6EQFgJ/view?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1v6ZaJX76izau8-hx-Zv9z2VcFmdE1yKz/view?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1b1Y2RwDa-MGf6sC_Au4tZNV3vDu6Tdia/view?usp=sharing


The images above shows the carb with the butterflies closed, opened by pushing the spring and left opened when released the spring.
Question is should the spring snap back and close the butterflies (vents)?




Cheers
adasilva

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Carburetor Spring
« on: 12 March 2018, 08:59:39 am »
Yes that is what i meant. The cables are disconnected as the carbs are out.
I will post some images later today when i get back home.


thanks Disorderlypunk


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FZS600 Fazer / Carburetor Spring
« on: 11 March 2018, 11:20:13 pm »
Hi all.
I need to know if this is an issue or not.
Recently i had a stick throttle and i tried to adjust the slack in the carb and in the handle bar but could not get it to work. I checked to see if the handle bar end was the issue as i read somewhere that it might be sticking on the handle bar ends but that was not the issue. I lubed the cables and check for tears and could not find any.
What i noticed was that there were so much dirty on the outside of the carburetors and the springs were covered with it.
I removed the carbs as in needed to change the carb rubber boots and clean them. The carbs insides were not too bad but outside the were so much S___t and the throttle spring was full of it.
I made a good progress and the carbs now look great.
But i have tried to open the carb vents by pushing the spring but when i let it go it stays in place with the vents open. I have lubed the springs again after the cleaning but still the same.
This is my first time getting my hands dirty in removing carbs and cleaning them. So wondering if this is a normal thing or should the spring snap back when i let them go and close the vents.


Cheers
adasilva

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Side Panniers Rack (holder)
« on: 05 March 2018, 08:05:56 pm »
Hello All
Thanks for all your replies. Sorry my laptop just died over the weekend.
A friend of mine had some soft panniers oxford throw over ones and i will give it a try.
Thanks again.

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Just when I thought spring was coming!
« on: 01 March 2018, 12:56:07 pm »
 :lol :lol

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FZS600 Fazer / Side Panniers Rack (holder)
« on: 01 March 2018, 12:55:25 pm »
Hello all!
Trying to find a side pannier rack that will fit on my Fazer 600 2002 but it seems to be impossible. Have googled for two days and
all that i could find is for Fazer S2 04 -09.


Does anyone knows which side pannier can i use? Alternatives or ideas.


Cheers

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Headlight - electrical questions
« on: 19 February 2018, 03:55:46 pm »
Hi HarryHornby.
When bought my Fazer, the previous owner had done the same, and sometimes both light were on but sometimes not.
What i discovered was that the wire that is going inside of the light bulb holder was not properly attached. So i just opened it and reattached it properly.
Ever since, both lights stays on.


Hope that helps.






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Introduction / Re: New FZS600 owner
« on: 25 January 2018, 02:11:53 pm »
Hello and Welcome to the site!
Great bike indeed!


Might as well check for holes on the exhaust down pipes if they are the original ones as they tend to rust very quickly. and if you can change them to stainless steel the better.


Good luck with it!


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FZS600 Fazer / Re: New owner
« on: 25 January 2018, 02:01:56 pm »
Hello Mitsos and welcome to the forum!
I also have a Fazer 600 2002 and this is my third bike and one of the best!
I would do as darrsi and jules-c proposed but i would also check the spark plugs as well.


Good luck!






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Introduction / Re: Hello All!
« on: 15 January 2018, 07:23:08 pm »
Hello Mitch. Nice to meet you too!
Indeed is a great accomplishment when we can figure out that there are other ways out there - cheaper ones - to fix an issue!
And i have to give thanks people like you and me that share this information.
Good luck with your carbs project. And we will definitely bump into each other again!


Keep on sharing the good stuff. :)


Adriano.

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Introduction / Re: Hello All!
« on: 11 January 2018, 07:41:16 pm »
will do! thanks. :D

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Introduction / Hello All!
« on: 11 January 2018, 05:39:01 pm »
Hello all.
I am delighted to be joining this club! Thanks.


I have a Fazer 600 2002 for a little more than a year now and i must say... I love that machine!


So here is my first post and hope it might help someone out there as i spent quite time on the web looking for a solution to my problem..


A few weeks ago, i was driving home when in noticed that my RPM counter needle was dropping to zero now and then. I first thought it was my imagination but after a while i was assure that i was not going crazy or blind.


I bought this bike from the original owner that took a good care of it, and the only thing i had to change was those damn downpipes as they were more like swiss cheese. I bought a brand new stainless steel downpipes and fitted them myself. So there and then i thought that could be the issue.


Headed straight to google to try to figure out and after hours searching, found out that the most likely cause of this issue was the TPS.


TPS!!! Says I? what the heck is this?  :'(


Back again to google, spent a few more hours until i completed understood what TPS stands for, what was its job and how i could test this to verify if my one was faulty.  :D


Now not going into details how you can do this but if one is wondering is very simple procedure
- turn the ignition on - don't turn the bike on. With the ignition on unplug the TPS from the Carburetor. (If you were like me, that did not know where it was located is just attached to the right-side of the carbs.)
Once you do that, you are in the testing modal and the RPM will go from 0 to 3. Plug it back again. Now if the RPM goes to 5 and stays there the TPS is fine, if stays in 0 you need to adjust it to stay on 5 by turning the TPS clockwise. If stays in 10 turn it anticlockwise until stays in 5.


Problem with mine is that i could not set it to stay at 5. It either went to 10 then 0 or stayed at zero.   :'(


So back again to google to try to find a replacement, and that my friends was the worse experience that i had in google  :'( :'(


If you search for the following "Yamaha Fazer 600 2002 TPS or Throttle Position Sensor" you will get lots of results. The problem is that not all the results are specific to this version of Fazer. The one on my bike had A1 stamped into it and most on the net says A2 or A3 And better yet! when you do find one it will cost you £120.00 and since i am in Ireland 20 more to post. £140.00  :eek


Most of the TPS that you will find is made by Mikuni and Yamaha use different sensors on different machines.  But what struck me was that while searching for the right one i found this article http://bikesandtravels.com/biker.aspx?ride=201


Here the guy had the same issue as mine. He made a good point that maybe or just maybe some machines might use the same sensor specifications. In his article he talks about a TDM 850 and the Yamaha XJR 1300 and a few others. But the problem is that there is no mention of the year and i had noticed on my research that different year have different specifications for the same machine.


So i download the service manual for XJR 20002 and TDM 1996 and what i found was that the resistance of the TDM 850 is the same as the Fazer 600 2002. In fact on the manual the instructions to check the resistance on both these machines are the same specification.
Better yet!  The TPS for the TDM cost £70  :lol


So i was now more confident that this was the right thing to do and I bought a brand new TDM 1996 A2 102 TPS and installed on the bike. Had no problems adjusting it to 5000 RPM and making sure it stayed there.


Couple days passed since i installed this as the weather did not allow me to go out and try it.


Today i just had this chance.


First the bike turned on with half of the choke opened. Something that it was not doing before. Also the idle speed stay steady and not going up and down like was doing. I had to reset the idle speed. I know that the recommendation is to do that before adjusting it - so i took it out again after resetting the idle speed and checked if 5000 RPM was the default.
Then went for a spin...
The bike is a totally different bike now. It is more responsive. In low gears it does not jerk or i have to really play with the clutch. It seems to even have increased the power.


I am very happy now!  :)


 I don't regret the time spent researching this issue as this just added another * under my belt.


I don't claim to be a mechanic but a bike enthusiastic, and what worked for me not necessary work for you but I hope this can help anyone out there that has the same issue.  ;)


Adriano.


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