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General / Re: what did you do with your fazer today ?
« on: 14 May 2024, 01:16:00 pm »
Test rode my fzs1000 2002, after 1 and a half year of not riding...because i fixed the second gear issue myself using haynes manual. (probably could have done it in 3 weeks with 2/3 hours a day, but...life... :) ). Sjeezes what a chore! Shifts like it's new again though :D.

Greetz
Some pics of the engine when it was open, and you can see the damage on the old gear where the dogs jumped out and grinded the gear.

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Been reading up. It looks like the fzs1000 had the shitty 2nd gear until 2002 production year. Used to be part 5jj1712100 which got upgraded to 5jj17121 from 2003 onwards.


https://www.japan-webike.be/ps/5JJ-17121-00/#!search&p.k=5JJ-17121-00


My question is. When splitting the block and going for my repair, any idea as to what parts will probably need to be replaced?

greetz

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Thanks guys!


I'll keep riding for now untill it starts skipping when giving it less then full throttle. I might actually replace them once it get worse. Just had a look in the haynes manual. I think i could do it when required. If and when i am to replace the gear, i'll make sure to follow up on this topic with pictures :) .


Greetz and again thanks for the help.

My fzs1000
My fzs1000


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Thx for the reply Pieeater. I also replaced the air filter so nothing is obstructing the air flow.


As to 'replacing the gearbox' or gears. Do you reckon it's possible to do this? I mean, i have enough time to do it myself. Read somewhere the engine needs to go out. Most people recommend just replacing the entire engine block.


Can any new spare parts be bought somewhere to replace the damaged parts? Or do you recon an entire new gearbox or engine block must be bought second hand.


Greetz

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I already did an oil change since i had the problem. Didn't see any metal pieces.


I've been reading up in the meantime. I don't know anything about the gearing in a motorcycle...but by reading up the problem i'm getting could originate from "rounding the dogs on the gears".  [/size]This can be caused by bad shifting. I can imagine the previous owner doing tons of clutchless upshifts etc... and i did it on occasion. Though i haven't heard about this on this fazer forum or anywhere else about the fzs1000.

[/size]Think i'm just gonna keep riding it and avoid going full out in second. Guessing that if there's no metal pieces flying around in my oil...i'll still be able to do a ton of miles with it :D. At least that's what i hope :rollin .


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As to me mentioning pushing the bike..
I don't often give it full stick in second but it happens. Like when you want to overtake quickly, or get on the highway...Or when you feel like just giving it some on a straight. The reason i mention 'pushing it to the limit' is because it only skips when i give it more or less full throttle. I agree with you that one shouldn't be pushing a bike too often to it's limits on the public road though. But sometimes lessons need to be learned.

I don't really find it hard to imagine when torque is at it's highest, the gears skip over a worn/damged/chipped tooth in second. I know this is simplified but it's what it comes down to right? Why would i feel that problem constantly?

Just pull off a carb top and check if the springs been cut to shorten it, it will be blatantly obvious.
I'll do that this evening.

From what you said, your problem is either fuel/air mixture, an air leak and or fueling is leaning off/being restricted or it's high tension circuit i.e. coil/lead/plug breaking down or leaking.
But why wouldn't i feel this in other gears. The bike runs perfectly for the rest of the time. It still goes 160mph+ on the speedometer (no flaming for testing this please).


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I don't think there is an exup problem as it would indicate on the tacho if there would be right?


As for being Ivanized or jetted. I'm not sure. But the new stock can has been fitted some 10.000km ago and it ran fine up until 2 weeks ago.


After some more testing it appears it's only doing it in second gear....so now i'm actually guessing 2nd gear broke a tooth or something.
There's no easy way of fixing this right? Probably the easiest thing to do is a full engine swap? or is it cheaper to do the gears only. I might just ride it until it breaks fully. Just not gonna push second to the limit so it doesn't skip... :'(


greetz

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Fuel mixture? Fuel feed problems? Fuel tank not letting air in? Spark plug? Cam chain ? Gearbox skipping teeth?  valve clearances out? The motorcycle runs fine for the rest except for that one problem.

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Hi to all. First post on the forum though i've been reading it for 3 years.


I have a 2002 fzs1000. Bought it at 10k miles a year or 2 ago and it now has 20k miles. I'm Belgian but converted it for you :) . I bought it with a titanium akropovic exhaust but last year i went to the ground in a corner at around 80mph and slid some 140meters... so now i fitted a stock can. :D


My problem is this:


When i open the throttle hard and the rpm passes 5000-8000 rpm, i occasionally get a big stutter. Just 1, a fraction of a second. I never had it happen to me in first gear.
It feels quite violent. At first i thought it was my chain or something else locking up, so i changed the chain and sprocket, serviced the swingarm. However the problem remained.


Then i figured ok...the big stutter is just the acceleration dropping away and coming back on full in a fraction of a second. It feels as if for a moment somebody gives a very strong tug from behind.
Probably just losing power which comes right back on.
Last thing i did now is replace the fuel filter, because i figured maybe not enough fuel comes into the engine while accelerating hard for a moment...but unfortunately that also didn't make any difference. Any ideas as to what my problem could be? I've been searching the internetz quite a bit this last week but haven't found other people that have my problem. It's really 1 big tug that i get for a fraction of a second, then it keeps accelerating.


But i think if i were leaning in a corner far with open throttle and i get that kind of shock, i could actually loose the backwheel or something when riding on the edge. Though i'll probably never accelerate so hard when cornering.


Any thoughts as to what might be the problem? I didn't have the problem until like 10 days ago. I service it myself. Haven't done valve clearance check. I'm afraid that if it keeps happening and it's something in the engine, it might actually wreck the engine. Could it be the fuel mixture setup? I have to use choke to turn my engine on, even when it's like 20°c out. and i also have to give it a little bit of gass before it comes on. Is that normal? once it has run about 20 seconds i can drop choke and it will sit around 1000rpm and when the engine is warm it idles at 1100-1200 rpm. At a pretty constant rpm as well.


Greetz and thanks in advance :) !


Sebastiaan



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