Fazer Owners Club - Unofficial

Bikes, Hints'n'Tips => FZS600 Fazer => Topic started by: Paulfzs on 06 January 2015, 05:57:37 pm

Title: solved my fazers terrible lighting...
Post by: Paulfzs on 06 January 2015, 05:57:37 pm
after tons of messing about and different lighting (except hid) ive finally found lighting which works, 20w ebay led light, came in a single unit so i will have to order another for the left side but they're pretty amazing!

Mounted to my indicator which is plenty strong enough and wired to my main beam so only comes on whilst on main.


safety nazis: it will only be used on full beam which is when cars are not coming towards me. which is safer than me seeing nothing and crashing into a school.

If you can find similar with more wattage then id go for it!
item:
http://www.banggood.com/20W-Universal-Motorcycle-Ebike-LED-Modified-Headlight-Lamp-For-Osram-p-955266.html?p=IW20171273440201502M (http://www.banggood.com/20W-Universal-Motorcycle-Ebike-LED-Modified-Headlight-Lamp-For-Osram-p-955266.html?p=IW20171273440201502M)

arrow showing the light unit mounted.

(http://i.imgur.com/LEvMM4O.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/visfD7J.jpg)






UPDATE:


2nd one turned up...


mounted. looks mean!






(http://i.imgur.com/vMG9eiR.jpg)



(http://i.imgur.com/GrVkRSF.jpg)




UPDATE:
Pics on the road.


1st pic is low beam with an osram nightbreaker and the cup removed.
2nd pic is full beam with 2 spotlights iluminated,
pis dont really do it justice.
(http://i.imgur.com/VVdRIQP.jpg)










(http://i.imgur.com/S872dGU.jpg)
Title: Re: solved my fazers terrible lighting...
Post by: Exupnut on 06 January 2015, 06:33:43 pm
Fudnut
Title: Re: solved my fazers terrible lighting...
Post by: darrsi on 06 January 2015, 08:00:14 pm
I'm liking that beam a lot, not sure if i'd trust them hanging off my indicators though.
That's a really nice beam of light,and would be excellent with 2 of them.  :)
Title: Re: solved my fazers terrible lighting...
Post by: Fazafou on 06 January 2015, 09:43:03 pm
I have 2 x 10w Cree led spot lights mounted off my radiator brackets.

Work very well and I use them as 'driving lights' on permanently. As long as you angle them sensibly you shouldn't dazzle anyone.
Title: Re: solved my fazers terrible lighting...
Post by: midden on 06 January 2015, 11:24:00 pm
I passed a blue (not hard to do I know) fazer yesterday which had led strips across the front of its mirrors. I have to say the look was awesome :)
Title: Re: solved my fazers terrible lighting...
Post by: Paulfzs on 07 January 2015, 07:23:24 am
I'm liking that beam a lot, not sure if i'd trust them hanging off my indicators though.
That's a really nice beam of light,and would be excellent with 2 of them.  :)


The indicators are solid.. mostly because they where epoxied to the fairing lol :D the light itself is light and very stable so doesn't stress the indicators. didnt have anywhere else to put them other than under the headlights but getting a nut and bolt on is a pain and usually means front fairing off which is a 20 minute job rather than 2 minutes on the indicator.


took it for a ride to test it got the beam in a better place and my god it is amazing! with 2 this would be insane. will be ordering a 2nd one for the other side.



Title: Re: solved my fazers terrible lighting...
Post by: fazersharp on 07 January 2015, 05:14:19 pm
If you have crash bars that would be a good place for them.
I have always been weary of buying things on ebay from china, and what about import tax and all that malarky, and if its a dud its too expensive to send back.
Also how waterproof are they
Title: Re: solved my fazers terrible lighting...
Post by: downey on 07 January 2015, 06:28:12 pm
very good beam with lots of of lumens in fairness, but i would also wonder about its waterproofness for that price like,and would two wired in not be a problem on the battery ? ,let us know how you go with them,
Title: Re: solved my fazers terrible lighting...
Post by: helloindustries on 08 January 2015, 05:00:28 pm
Impressive for the price.

Shame they aren't E-marked/road legal.
Title: Re: solved my fazers terrible lighting...
Post by: Paulfzs on 07 February 2015, 09:43:06 pm
So a month on, bikes left outside in the rain...
taken this out through downpours and salted roads jetwashed twice...


no problems, no light flicker no issues at all and fully waterproof!


as above, not e-marked but they're for off road use only.
much safer than hids for everyone as they are only on when there's no oncoming cars unless you're the type to ride round on full beams all the time.


not ordered my second one yet im still in debate about it, 1 is more than enough but looks silly, if i had 2 id probably end up disconecting my main beam bulb as 90w is a lot of power drain not including the 55w on the left!


2x 15w would be sufficient.


so plan of attack is to reduce the wattage of main beam bulb as much as possible maybe even an led bulb (not for brightness but looks) then fit a 2nd spotlight on left side.
Title: Re: solved my fazers terrible lighting...
Post by: Sannox on 07 February 2015, 10:55:16 pm
When you go back to low beam, I guess it's like all the lights were switched off after the bright high beam  :lol I have the fox eyes and still not bright, need something with more ooommmph
Title: Re: solved my fazers terrible lighting...
Post by: Paulfzs on 08 February 2015, 02:36:57 pm
going back to low beam i have to make sure i didnt press the wrong button and turn all my lights off lol.


These are the best budget lights ive found, obviously spend £50-£60 youll get loads better but i dont ride at night every night so its no a massive problem.
Title: Re: solved my fazers terrible lighting...
Post by: Paulfzs on 20 February 2015, 11:28:57 pm
2nd light turned up and looks pretty damn good! light is imense!!


so far the wiring it taking it all fine with no signs of getting warm or stressing the battery
Title: Re: solved my fazers terrible lighting...
Post by: darrsi on 21 February 2015, 08:47:55 am
2nd light turned up and looks pretty damn good! light is imense!!


so far the wiring it taking it all fine with no signs of getting warm or stressing the battery


 :useless
Title: Re: solved my fazers terrible lighting...
Post by: Steve on 21 February 2015, 10:57:18 am
Ace mod   :) I do lots of night time/ low light riding and the LED's are a cracking idea
Title: Re: solved my fazers terrible lighting...
Post by: Paulfzs on 21 February 2015, 12:29:56 pm
2nd light turned up and looks pretty damn good! light is imense!!


so far the wiring it taking it all fine with no signs of getting warm or stressing the battery


 :useless


The new pics are in first post :D
Title: Re: solved my fazers terrible lighting...
Post by: darrsi on 21 February 2015, 04:27:49 pm
Nice work, that'll be my next treat for the bike, after i get round to finally washing it.  :D
Title: Re: solved my fazers terrible lighting...
Post by: Paulfzs on 22 February 2015, 12:10:39 am
on the road..


osram nightbreaker and cup removed vs spotlights




(http://i.imgur.com/CYe2y7e.jpg)




(http://i.imgur.com/S872dGU.jpg)
Title: Re: solved my fazers terrible lighting...
Post by: Neon Knight on 26 June 2015, 05:10:23 pm
Simple solution to a really annoying problem. I love it  :lol
Title: Re: solved my fazers terrible lighting...
Post by: Paulfzs on 26 June 2015, 08:33:14 pm
indeed, i may upgrade them at some point to 40w 2 of them and take main beam down to an led bulb for mega seeing power.
Title: Re: solved my fazers terrible lighting...
Post by: Paulfzs on 21 July 2015, 03:38:35 pm
Update: some how one of my lights has decided to die :(


Not sure why yet i need to check the voltage and such to be sure its getting to the lights but 1 down.
Title: Re: solved my fazers terrible lighting...
Post by: sinto on 21 July 2015, 09:45:02 pm
Update: some how one of my lights has decided to die :(


Not sure why yet i need to check the voltage and such to be sure its getting to the lights but 1 down.

Oh no Paul, what you going to do now?
Could just be the bulb with any luck?

I've just recently put in a HID, wrong one but it was just to give me an idea of what it'll look like when I get the correct HID and think I'll go for the H4 HID on other side as it looks good me thinks :)
Title: Re: solved my fazers terrible lighting...
Post by: Paulfzs on 21 July 2015, 10:23:58 pm
fixed!


turns out when my indicator fell off it pulled the wire inside the light as it was  hanging on by the spotlight wiring :D


id love hid but id hate to blind other people and the cost puts me off a bit.. ive not seen or been on a fazer at night with hids fitted so no idea if the cost is worth it, easy for others  to say "its great" but to test yourself.
Title: Re: solved my fazers terrible lighting...
Post by: snakeyprince83 on 21 July 2015, 10:36:38 pm
Where did you get the HID from sinto?
Title: Re: solved my fazers terrible lighting...
Post by: sinto on 21 July 2015, 10:37:02 pm
Yeah, always the simple things are best checked first, glad you got it working.

I've had HID kits on various other bikes and my cars etc, so I know what there capable of. Lucky that I have a few sets lying in garage, all be it was wrong bulb,  but I got it fixed for time being and seems to be the way I'll go tbh. I've riden this set up for a couple of weeks and no one has flashed me  to tell me I'm blinding them, even been behind a traffic cop car and they never done anything, so it's looking good. Just need to try some night time riding to check what vision I get :)
Title: Re: solved my fazers terrible lighting...
Post by: Paulfzs on 21 July 2015, 11:23:28 pm
well if you get a new set and wish to part company with a wrong bulb one if it can be jamed in with glue selotape and hope let me know :D
Title: Re: solved my fazers terrible lighting...
Post by: sinto on 21 July 2015, 11:50:44 pm
Where did you get the HID from sinto?

My garage! :b
But seriously, go here mate http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,17685.0.html (http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,17685.0.html) it'll explain more than me retyping it  :lol
Title: Re: solved my fazers terrible lighting...
Post by: Paulfzs on 22 July 2015, 02:23:13 am
just bought a pair of h1 hid bulbs 8000k off ebay just need a balast now :D
Title: Re: solved my fazers terrible lighting...
Post by: sinto on 22 July 2015, 05:04:41 am
just bought a pair of h1 hid bulbs 8000k off ebay just need a balast now :D
Paul,
Why didn't you get the ballasts when you got the bulbs?
Why would you buy a pair? There's one H1 bulb and one H4 that we need.the H4 bulb needs more than a ballast for it to work due to the dual element, it also needs a separate box that then goes to a power source. You may find that some of these set ups are rubbish due to the two elements, HID's don't take too well to having dual elements.
Title: Re: solved my fazers terrible lighting...
Post by: Paulfzs on 22 July 2015, 12:29:33 pm
because they where super cheap so thought it was worth a punt, i probably wont bother with main beam hid ive got spotlights for that :D
Title: Re: solved my fazers terrible lighting...
Post by: snakeyprince83 on 22 July 2015, 10:21:17 pm
Think i'm going to go with the retrolabs kit, pricy but they seem top notch and come with everything you need.
Title: Re: solved my fazers terrible lighting...
Post by: sinto on 22 July 2015, 10:28:33 pm
because they where super cheap so thought it was worth a punt, i probably wont bother with main beam hid ive got spotlights for that :D
I really don't think you'll need the main beam once you get your HID fitted :) you'll just need it for MOT purpose :b
Title: Re: solved my fazers terrible lighting...
Post by: sinto on 22 July 2015, 10:32:53 pm
Think i'm going to go with the retrolabs kit, pricy but they seem top notch and come with everything you need.
It doesn't make any difference as to what others have, cheap lights, expensive lights etc, as long as it gives you the light your looking for and your happy with it, I'd say go for it :)
Just remember and post a thread up with your pics etc to let us all know how it's going :)
Title: Re: solved my fazers terrible lighting...
Post by: JoeRock on 23 July 2015, 01:41:28 pm
Think i'm going to go with the retrolabs kit, pricy but they seem top notch and come with everything you need.


It'll give you by far the best results - you get proper HID projectors so get a strong clear light, not really bright but patchy as with normal HID kits (the fazers headlight isn't designed for them and doesn't perform particularly well tbh - its just a lot brighter!)
Title: Re: solved my fazers terrible lighting...
Post by: Tubz1983 on 03 November 2015, 10:25:10 am
This looks really effective actually, I shall investigate, Is it easy to wire too the main beam?
Title: Re: solved my fazers terrible lighting...
Post by: Paulfzs on 03 November 2015, 02:24:22 pm
This looks really effective actually, I shall investigate, Is it easy to wire too the main beam?


first few days for testing i was pikey and pushed the wires into the main beam bulb holder/plug. you can just solder the wires to the plug itself or strip a little plastic coating off the main beam wires and solder them.