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General => General => Topic started by: pezos on 07 October 2018, 04:58:41 pm
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I know this subject has come up before, but I'm struggling to find some conclusive reports on whether they are any good, and where to put them on the 02-FZS600 standard mirror? I am about 6ft tall and don't have a huge jacket to get past, but seem to have big old blind spot. Thanks in advance.
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My bike came with them fitted. They're positioned in the top inside corners, but make sure they are within the confines of the mirror, as they can get prised off at sustained high speed. Most useful for observing vehicles almost alongside but out of peripheral vision.
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Thanks Robbo, Good thought regarding wind ripping them off, was thinking about adjustable ones but yeah they might just come off. For the sake of a few quid I reckon I'll get some fixed ones. Just wondering if outside edge is best position as the inside seems to be where the 'wasted' bit of the mirror is.
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Iv done away with the mirrors and am currently using a rear view camera setup
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Doesn't anyone have necks any more :pokefun
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Mine are adjustable, on a ball and socket type fitting. No substitute for using your neck though. If they weren't on the bike when I got it, I doubt if I would have bought them though.
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I've never used one. But this seems like a good idea:
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F132724896815 (https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F132724896815)
I'm pretty hot on my blindspot and shoulder checks. But in London kamakaze moped/deliveroo riders are a nightmare sneaking up on you at lights and doing dodgey under/overtakes around junctions. You can't have too much help.
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Thanks all. I'll stick some on and see how I get on, just for a little extra piece of mind especially in London with as you say all the Kamikaze riders - desperate to get infront on their mopeds and coming from every angle.
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PS. Love the rear view camera!
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A pal of mine had a GoPro ripped off his bike, on his London commute, by a moped rider who quickly snuck up beside him. The blindspot mirrors may have warned him earlier, who knows. Unfortunately you have to be wary of anyone invading your space when stationary, nowadays, in case bike jackers make a grab for the key, a sat nav/Go Pro...anything of value. What a sad state of affairs.
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loads of mirror checks and shoulder checks.......never keep your head still especially when stopped
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Beware if ye get Black Spot mirrors AAArrrrrrrghhhhhh
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Beware if ye get Black Spot mirrors AAArrrrrrrghhhhhh
Black spot mirrors ????? :look
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Beware if ye get Black Spot mirrors AAArrrrrrrghhhhhh
Black spot mirrors ????? :look
Pirates of the Caribbean
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On a car pulling a caravan, you put the blindspot / blackspot ( :) ) mirrors on the outside (far side) of the vehicle wing mirror, so they extend the vision behind, plus have a wider field of view out there.
If you put them on the inside edge of your mirror you are only going to see 3/4 of your jacket then a bit of road!
Try it. Stand infront of your bike, straddling your front wheel while looking towards the rear (of the bike), and move your view to the inside and outside of your mirrors.... outside edge gives greater field of vision.
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I've got some blackspot mirrors. They come in pieces of eight 😉
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I've got some blackspot mirrors. They come in pieces of eight 😉
:lol
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On a car pulling a caravan, you put the blindspot / blackspot ( :) ) mirrors on the outside (far side) of the vehicle wing mirror, so they extend the vision behind, plus have a wider field of view out there.
If you put them on the inside edge of your mirror you are only going to see 3/4 of your jacket then a bit of road!
Try it. Stand infront of your bike, straddling your front wheel while looking towards the rear (of the bike), and move your view to the inside and outside of your mirrors.... outside edge gives greater field of vision.
Here is my fake photoshoped idea(http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=15403.0;attach=15305;image)
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The mirrors taper towards the outside edge, so the stick on blindspot mirrors would be out in the breeze if fitted there, and won't last five minutes before the lens section pulls out of the ball and socket, in my experience. I think they'd cover too much more usable mirror as well.
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Look Back
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBO5EH_rJqQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBO5EH_rJqQ)
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Look Back
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBO5EH_rJqQ[/url] ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBO5EH_rJqQ[/url])
What........like this ??? Beats any mirrors at minimum wage.
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Look Back
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBO5EH_rJqQ[/url] ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBO5EH_rJqQ[/url])
Well thats great for 1970 but with modern shape full face helmets you can not look that far behind you.
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Look Back
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBO5EH_rJqQ[/url] ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBO5EH_rJqQ[/url])
Well thats great for 1970 but with modern shape full face helmets you can not look that far behind you.
Was going to post that when I first saw the youtube clip. All wearing open face helmets giving much better peripheral vision. I do find them useful, but would never have considered them if they hadn't already been fitted by the previous owner, as never had them ever before.
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I'm sure someone on here has one of these "riderscan" mirrors. Anyone tried it ?
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I'm sure someone on here has one of these "riderscan" mirrors. Anyone tried it ?
not tried one of those but my concern with that would be when your riding with the sun anywhere behind you that it would reflect back into your vision & actually be more distracting, only my thoughts but could be wrong!
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Yes, Ive got one. Does increase your peripheral vision, but you still cant see whats directly behind you as your bodys still in the way, hence I am now trialling a rear view camera. One other thing i noticed with the riderscan is that the traffic appears very suddenly in the mirror due to the shape, in a split second almost. You can check the mirror, start to manoeuvre, and suddenly theres something there. So, in fact, you still must "lifesaver" check. Useful, but not a significant improvement on standard mirrors and lifesaver.
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I have seen some cars that have wing mirrors that have the outer section as a wide view separated with a dotted line but all in a totally flat one piece mirror
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Here is my fake photoshoped idea [image]
I didn't mean add extensions to the ends of the Bike mirrors.
I referred to towing caravans from a reference perspective. Blindspot mirrors are on the outside (not inside).
You'd stick those little sticky blindspot mirror things on the far side surface of your mirrors (not the inside side of the mirror) ... plus not extensions either! :)
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I already find the bike mirrors don't give a good enough view of what's behind (especially because of elbows), so to fit blindspot mrrors in the bit of the current mirror that's actually useful, seems counter-intuitive......at the moment.
I think they're a great idea - and would love some, if the current mirrors made the practical - but for the time being will stick with regular mirror glances and life-savers.
My only worry would be riders who stopped doing their life-savers because they had blind-spot mirrors. Car drivers have already stopped doing the look-over-the-shoulder, before manoeuvring and now rely almost entirely on mirrors/camera's - especially in newer cars with the little amber and red arrows that light up on the door mirror when the car "detects" something coming up alongside (they were bloody annoying on my Evoque).
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I personally just use my eyes 😃 my mirrors are beyond useless as they are more of a fashion accessory than anything practical, so a turn of the head is sufficient. I find from learning to ride without them then I'm are far more aware when doing shoulder checks etc I actually take in my surroundings instead of just glancing
To be fair unless it has blue flashing lights then I couldn't care less what's behind me, it certainly won't be coming past me so its irrelevant haha
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With regard to fitting them, if you want them, the top inside corner is best because that area usually gives a good view of your shoulders and is a large enough area for the blindspot mirrors to be protected from windblast. The outside top corner is a "valuable" viewing area, and being narrower at this end of the bikes mirrors, the blindspots would be wind blasted off in no time, as wouldn't be totally protected.