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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Nikko G-pack
« on: 23 July 2013, 02:11:51 pm »
Its a carburated  engine, there is no ecu.

yadda yadda, ecu, cdi.. Whatever.

Just took the bike out and cant get past 10.8 which i suppose is high enough but certainly still annoying when canning it in low gears, As far as i know it was like this before i swapped the engine and switched to r1 front end

FZS600 Fazer / Re: Nikko G-pack
« on: 23 July 2013, 01:18:00 pm »
Mine definitely revs up to past 12k in 1st-3rd - don't think I've quite gotten there in 4th or higher as I ran out of "runway" / "drag strip" ;)

I'll check mine now, give me 10 mins

FZS600 Fazer / Re: Nikko G-pack
« on: 23 July 2013, 12:55:26 pm »
I'm going to check tonight!

Please do, Hope my ecu isn't cooked or something. If you hit a limiter, tell me the revs

FZS600 Fazer / Re: Nikko G-pack
« on: 23 July 2013, 12:49:46 pm »
Raises the rev limit to 12k on second and third too. although its probably not wise to go that high)
What rev limiter?  I'm sure I've had mine past 12k in 1st-3rd... :look

Who knows, I'll check later.. then repost.

Hope to god i don't have a restricted ecu or something..  :(

FZS600 Fazer / Re: Nikko G-pack
« on: 23 July 2013, 12:42:33 pm »
mmm, really?

Apparently. Similar thing with the old Gsxr's, forces the ecu to think the bike is at a certain speed. Rather than think its doing the speed it is doing, Or 0mph all the time.(in my case)

Raises the rev limit to 12k on second and third too. although its probably not wise to go that high)

FZS600 Fazer / Re: Nikko G-pack
« on: 23 July 2013, 12:36:58 pm »
Fuelling map on the carbs?

Alters the Retard/Advance.

FZS600 Fazer / R1 swingarm
« on: 23 July 2013, 11:57:43 am »
Just wondering about an R1 swinger and rear wheel to match the R1 front end on the bike, and to allow 180 tyre goodness.

Are these a straight fit? i've seen one or two pictures with them fitted but not much info around.


FZS600 Fazer / Re: Nikko G-pack
« on: 23 July 2013, 11:54:42 am »
Not sure whats what with the pack, id like to have it just to at least see if it gets rid of the midrange problems.

And it may be that i have no speedo hooked up that i have such a low limit in first? I'm not sure what it is at, but its definitely there, and annoying.


FZS600 Fazer / Re: Nikko G-pack
« on: 23 July 2013, 02:06:46 am »

FZS600 Fazer / Nikko G-pack
« on: 23 July 2013, 02:00:04 am »
just enquiring if anyone has one of these installed, Would like to remove that pesky limit on the first gear.[size=78%] [/size][/size]and also see if it removes the "run like crap mode" when removing the speedo drive as i have done. (although it is barley noticeable)Problem is.. i have removed the speedo drive and most of the pictures i have seen on the net show the deice going in between the drive and the loom, but others go between the ecu and the loom, which one is used for the fazer?Thanks,[size=78%]

FZS600 Fazer / Re: indicator inspiration.
« on: 10 July 2013, 12:11:15 am »
I personally love the Standard indicators. Maybe you would like them with clear lenses and amber bulbs?  :evil

FZS600 Fazer / Re: Show me your fazer!
« on: 08 July 2013, 02:05:11 am »

 :evil :evil

FZS600 Fazer / Thunderace wheel
« on: 02 July 2013, 10:53:19 pm »
Whats involved with Swapping the rear wheel out for a Thunderace one? I know it has been done and somewhere i read whats involved but as i cane to buy a wheel i cannot fine the info anywhere.

Im guessing the bearings are the only issue so far.

Fazer 20x47x14

yzf 28x52x12

So.. I would need 20x52x14/12??, right? This is the the fazer spindle.

FZS600 Fazer / Re: Usd Conversion
« on: 02 July 2013, 07:50:53 pm »
Looks good. Nicely executed. So how much has it improved the ride? (Guess you'll need to spend some time setting it up before you can answer that?). And I noticed you gave up on the single h/lamp idea?

Not sure, I can't ride it until i receive the bolts for the front discs, at the moment they are held on by a couple of rusty bolts. It will probs be getting set up too, but  as i am fitting the thunderace rear wheel and most likely will be getting a hagon or an R6 shock it will only be tempoary.

Sorry I forgot you'd talked about the Speedo and revs earlier.  I'd be interested to know what the performance is like side by side with a standard bike in a straight line.

The bike feels the same, Can see no difference at all, in Slow speeds or if thrash it.

FZS600 Fazer / Re: Usd Conversion
« on: 02 July 2013, 03:17:57 pm »

Next to do is to get a Thunder-ace rear wheel for 180 tyre goodness.

I made a little bracket up for the speedo to hide most of the iron works behind it. Will probably paint it or wrap it at some point.

FZS600 Fazer / Re: Usd Conversion
« on: 02 July 2013, 12:18:10 am »

Fairing is Going back on tomorrow. Started the Fork swap too, All im waiting for is the disc bolts.

FZS600 Fazer / Re: Usd Conversion
« on: 24 June 2013, 12:07:20 am »
Got some GSXR switchgear for free, They look loads better and more modern than the Fazer ones.  :D 

FZS600 Fazer / Re: Usd Conversion
« on: 22 June 2013, 03:24:42 am »

Some small updates.

Pressed a Fazer stem into the R1 bottom yoke, The Fazer stem is Very slightly thinner so had to drill through the yoke and stem Then press a Spring pin through. Had to shave about half from each full lock stud on the yoke to match the fazer yoke.

Front wheel transformed from this...

..To this  :)

Also machined this "top hat", which makes the Top yoke fit the Fazer stem.

Fender arrived too, This was sold to me for £10 with no info on the colour. Safe to say i love it and might do the bike in this glitter colour.

FZS600 Fazer / Re: Usd Conversion
« on: 11 June 2013, 01:17:30 am »
Hmmm, but as the CDI controls the ignition firing does that not mean its taking a measurement from the speedo so that the wizardry can happen?

Yes, the speedo drive would be telling the CDI how fast the bike is going so the correct Advance/retard can be applied for the speed.
I removed the Speedo drive from the loom completely, Now the CDI knows the engine is running and what is going on inside the carbs, The only thing it dosent now know is how fast the bike is going. I have been to work and back on the bike and the bike feels exactly the same.

I would like to hear how other peoples bikes run with standard clocks and the speedo drive disconnected.


FZS600 Fazer / Re: Usd Conversion
« on: 10 June 2013, 01:50:27 pm »
I'd like to hear more about whether you notice any running problems as I've recently swapped my front end for a Tcat one, I'm contemplating swapping the clocks over so I can have the T'cat wheel in with 120/60 tyre but keeping the current speedo connected to the loom to avoid any errors!

I had a look at the wiring diagram and against what i have read the speedo is not connected to the Tps, it is connected to the speedo drive and the CDI box. I just removed the Speedo drive from the loom now and took it on a little run. It runs fine.Maybe the problems start when people just remove the speedo drive and leave the clocks?

FZS600 Fazer / Re: Usd Conversion
« on: 09 June 2013, 10:04:48 pm »,7561.0.html

Okay, After some research. My bike is running fine because the Speedo drive is still connected to the loom. I'm going to have a look at it tommorow. Conflicting stories on whats what but apparently its not too noticeable.. But the tach needle goes nuts. This could probably be sorted. I'll update tommorow

FZS600 Fazer / Re: Usd Conversion
« on: 09 June 2013, 09:54:10 pm »
Hmm, i read something into that too. But only remembered once i swapped the clocks over. It runs the same, In any case.

After i took the 'proper' speedo off, i took a quick run to the shops before wiring the new one, Tbh, thats when its ran the best. With no speedo.


FZS600 Fazer / Re: Usd Conversion
« on: 09 June 2013, 09:16:37 pm »
Does it rev beyond 10,000 ?

Looks good tho.

Not sure, The clocks go upto 18k.

Is there a limiter built into the original clocks? I pushed it fairly hard last night. This speedo has a top speed and rpm recorder, it said at my max rpm was 9900 and something.. Not sure on the Speed as the speedo wasn't properly calibrated then.

Also, to add, Rear wheel will be getting replaced by a Thunderace rim, So it will have a 180 on the back. Have a Hugger from a Srad that i can modify to fit too.

Now, the wheels.. they will be getting powder coated and new tires, What colour.. Black is the favorite, but i think silver would look pretty cool. Opinions?

Cheers, Tom

FZS600 Fazer / Usd Conversion
« on: 09 June 2013, 08:23:04 pm »
Hi guys, Just showing off my latest project.

Its goign to be a Fazer with a round lamp and R1 forks. Got some parts today.

Unfortunately, i Don't think the actual front end swap will be until next month. I need more parts and the wheel need either coating or painting.

Here is how the bike stands now.

The round lamp is only temporary, Its the wrong beam pattern, therefore wont pass the MOT. So when i do the swap to usd, i'll be buying a bandit lamp.
I bolted the Speedo also to the lamp bowl, Temporary again, i'm buying the proper bracket for it.

The speedo is a KOSO xr-sr-n, The fazer speedo would not work with the R1 front end, as the wheel doesn't have a drive, This speedo takes the reading from small magnets inside the disc bolts. (Either front or back, even the sprocket)

It has a rev counter, But it's in number format and doesn't seem as 'instant' as the actual dial.

The clocks are great, As long as you have a wiring diagram to hand for the bike. A bonus too is that they come with a variable water temp sensor to replace the switch type in the water system.

Will update as more stuff happens.


FZS600 Fazer / Re: Clutch knock
« on: 06 June 2013, 12:07:47 pm »
Out of balance carburettors can cause the clutch to rattle have these been checked recently.

They were balanced about 2 weeks before swapping the engine, I didn't bother when i swapped the engine. But i'll re-balance and let you know.

my vote is with Tom :)  sounds very much like release bearing ( most manual cars have the same noise to a certain degree ). wouldn`t lose sleep over it..........just ride it as normal and sort it if it gets really bad. does the clutch operate ok otherwise mate? cheers Ade

Yeah, the clutch is fine.. Just this annoying knocking.

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