Fazer Owners Club - Unofficial
General => Introduction => Topic started by: darrenc on 10 January 2017, 04:02:21 pm
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Hello everyone, my name is Darren and I've just picked up a nice 03 Fazer today ready for my daily commute. After some deliberation on what to buy I settled with the Fazer for its bullet proof engine and reliability. I look forward to receiving the bike on Thursday and taking it for a spin at the weekend.
Apart from the front sprocket but (which I have get to check) is there anything I need to worry about?
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And here she is
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Looks a goodun. Foxeyes are the best. Not much else to look out for - downpipes collector box rotting (if the black originals) - rear brake caliper seizing - knackered rear suspension (if original) - being overtaken by red ones 😉
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hi and welcome
It looks like the rear shock has been changed and if the sprocket done by a yam dealer there should be a punch mark on the headstock near to the frame number.
Regular balance of carbs is quite useful
And as will find out blue is the fastest colour for the 600 and silver storm for the 1000
Good choice and happy riding
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Hi Darren and welcome,
Hope you enjoy your new ride, which looks real pretty. With the current weather it might not look that good for long. I see plenty of cleaning happening in the near future.
Ride safe :thumbup
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Thanks all, I've been advised both the rear shock and front springs haven been upgraded to yss ones. I'm quite happy with the purchase if I do say so myself, I will take a peek at the headstock for a stamp. Failing that I will just pop the sprocket casing off and take a peek. Better safe than sorry as I have read a few horror stories on here about the sprocket coming off and causing some expensive damage.
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very nice Darren and welcome, lots of decent people on here mate. is that your probust cart I see through the window. ?
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Not sure what a probust cart is ;) the pic was taken at the place I'm buying it from which was a power tools hire shop, it was the owners bike I were buying.
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Thanks all, I've been advised both the rear shock and front springs haven been upgraded to yss ones. I'm quite happy with the purchase if I do say so myself, I will take a peek at the headstock for a stamp. Failing that I will just pop the sprocket casing off and take a peek. Better safe than sorry as I have read a few horror stories on here about the sprocket coming off and causing some expensive damage.
I noticed the YSS sticker on the swinging arm, and as far as I know they are only available when purchasing a YSS product, it would be interesting to know what has been done to the front forks upgrade wise. YSS are manufacturing the cartridge fork emulators now and are available at a very reasonable price from a number of outlets Wemoto.com being one of them.
a quick glance at the rear shock will tell you if its a Yamaha pogo stick or something a little bit special. I have placed a pic of the Yamaha one in here for comparison with yours.
I hope you find it is an upgraded shock cos that will save you a big spend out.
I know Hagon do one for the FZS600 as do YSS and Nitron, I sure if you look you will see a name on it.
plus pic of emus and one of sprocket nut
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Its not the pogo stick up back, its a yss shock, it has a black spring and looks a lot meatier the the stock pictured one. As for the front shocks not sure how I can identity what as been done. Once I get the bike on Thursday I will take more pics and stick them on this post.
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Oh! By the way Darren welcome to the group.
But is that a big black boil on the back of the seat? :eek :lol
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Its not the pogo stick up back, its a yss shock, it has a black spring and looks a lot meatier the the stock pictured one. As for the front shocks not sure how I can identity what as been done. Once I get the bike on Thursday I will take more pics and stick them on this post.
Well the YSS shock has likely saved you 300 quid or more and the fact that the springs in the yoyos have been replaced. she should ride nice.
Do you know the previous owner might have hi name in the log book might be worth trying to get in touch with him to find out about front end and any other stuff he can tell you, IE: when were the tappets done and other relevant stuff.
As was pointed out earlier Yamaha Dealers put a centre punch mark on the frame label by the head-stock to indicate that the front sprocket nut has been upgraded but if centre punch is not there it does not mean its not been done, I have not punched mine but thinking about it I will at the week end.
Your bike looks tidy and I am sure you will be really pleased with the performance, they go like a cat on steroids.
Good luck.
tommy :thumbup
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Cheers Tommy, I'm hoping it should all be sound, its only covered 13k miles which is backed up by MOT history and a vehicle check I ran on it. If sprocket but hasn't been done then I will do it myself ad it looks a piece of piss job ;) just struggling to find the 12mm but easily anywhere other than eBay where they all tend to be in the bloody states and have a ridiculous shipping charge
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You can get them on eBay from this country about £6-50 with a new washer.
I will see if I can find the link and post it in here or if someone else has it they could post it.
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Link to eBay sprocket nut and washer upgraded nut 12mm
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GENUINE-YAMAHA-FZS600-FAZER-FRONT-SPROCKET-NUT-AND-WASHER-KIT-/141276105948 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GENUINE-YAMAHA-FZS600-FAZER-FRONT-SPROCKET-NUT-AND-WASHER-KIT-/141276105948)
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Damn none available will try again :'(
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GENUINE-YAMAHA-YZF600R-THUNDERCAT-FRONT-SPROCKET-NUT-AND-WASHER-KIT-/131182167337?hash=item1e8b110529:g:r8UAAOSwRLZT4V5i (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GENUINE-YAMAHA-YZF600R-THUNDERCAT-FRONT-SPROCKET-NUT-AND-WASHER-KIT-/131182167337?hash=item1e8b110529:g:r8UAAOSwRLZT4V5i)
This one say for the Thundercat but it is the same nut and washer, I have it on good authority.
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Yeah just checked out the part numbers and they are the same
90215-21290 Washer
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90179-18006 Nut
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Why not order the 12mm nut & washer from Yamaha-I paid £2-44 for the pair.
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The voice of reason. I always, wrongly as it seems, think that anything bought directly from Yamaha is going to cost ten times as much from elsewhere. I guess as it is/was a Yamaha factory agency free repair the parts are still going to be subsidised, hence the reasonable price.
Thanks for posting :thumbup :thumbup
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The voice of reason. I always, wrongly as it seems, think that anything bought directly from Yamaha is going to cost ten times as much from elsewhere. I guess as it is/was a Yamaha factory agency free repair the parts are still going to be subsidised, hence the reasonable price.
Thanks for posting :thumbup :thumbup
There arent many things cheaper from Yamaha than ebay alternatives-in fact if anyone knows of anything else I would like to know(being an old scrooge pensioner type! :lol )
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OK so not a great start to receiving the bike. Despite the bloke telling me it had a new battery its failed to start, I can only assets he'd had it on charge when I went to view it. Now its sat in my garage and the battery is as flat as a fart( I viewed and started it on Tuesday) so one can safely assume the battery is knackered. Any recommendations on a new battery as I need this bike to start on the click of a button and I don't want to be pissing round when it comes round to commuting in a few weeks.
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The voice of reason. I always, wrongly as it seems, think that anything bought directly from Yamaha is going to cost ten times as much from elsewhere. I guess as it is/was a Yamaha factory agency free repair the parts are still going to be subsidised, hence the reasonable price.
Thanks for posting :thumbup :thumbup
There arent many things cheaper from Yamaha than ebay alternatives-in fact if anyone knows of anything else I would like to know(being an old scrooge pensioner type! :lol )
With saying that though Dave the upgrade sprocket/washer set I bought was sold through eBay but was in fact a genuine Yamaha part/parts.
Not 100% sure if this was the Tab Washer package or the 12mm Nut package
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Any recommendations on a new battery
You'll get more opinions than tonight's snowflakes http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,21338.msg244959.html#msg244959, (http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,21338.msg244959.html#msg244959,) but Motobatt or Yuasa seem to be the favourites.
Shame about the dud. Sounds like he's had the bike stored for some time. You might want to check over a few other things before you rely on it daily.
Personally my Varta has lasted me 5 years without problem, although I do put it on charge regularly. Make sure you get the right model. Thundercat and FZS1000 batteries are not suitable. The Yuasa is YT12B-BS
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I phoned the previous owner straight back and he has very kindly offered to buy a replacement battery, can't say fairer than that. I just hope there are no more gremlins hiding in the bike, at 13212 miles I would hope not and it has just had a MOT today with no advisories.
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Not sure about the Ignition switch on the 1K Fazers but on the FZS600 2002-2003 there is a ignition position that will allow you to remove the ignition key and leave the side lights on, it might be worth trying to charge the existing battery over night to see if this has whats happened and flattened the battery, could save you a few quid if that is what happened.
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Cheers Tommy, the previous owner has very kindly to provide a new battery so I think he knows he has stiffed me over this one, hence me getting straight onto the phone with him :)
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Talking about the ignition switch on the Fazer FZS 600, which we weren't.
I have noticed of late that my key is becoming more and more difficult to turn, sometimes having to wiggle it in the lock for 5 or 10 seconds before it relinquishes it hold.
So Iv'e been on EvilBay trying to find a replacement, and there are lots on there for the 1998, 1999, 2000 and some for the 2001 model by nothing definitely for the 2002-2003 Foxeye model.
One buyer I looked at said that their lock fits all the FZS 600's from 1998 to 2003.
Does anyone have any info that they can share on this?
One other thing is that I start the old girl up every 3 or 4 days and let her run until hot/warm (10-12 minutes)
Starting process this time of year, 1/4 to 1/3rd choke, I do not touch the throttle quick dab on the starter button and it bursts into life and she is running smooth,instantly, 45 seconds and roll the choke completely off. Jobs a Gud-Un.
Today I went out to the shed went through the usual process 1/4 to 1/3rd choke, throttle a no-go zone as usual, quick dab on the starter button she burst into life but then faultered and stopped, dab number 2 on the button she burst into life again and ran OK!!! but did not sound quite right, 3 down pipes warm, 1 down pipe cold, second one in from the throttle/front brake lever side of the bike is cold, whilst kneeling down burning my fingers on 3 of the pipes I noticed a faint ticking noise from under the fuel tank, I'm suspecting I have an HT breakdown on that plug/lead. A couple of blips on the throttle had the bike running with it's usual dulcet tones, and then I burnt my finger on the offending down pipe.
The ignition key and the misfire I am convinced are not related.
I have read and sympathised with Darssi's issues with his recent misfire and failure on the startup front, Tank off tomorrow and remove all the caps, clip HT leads by 10mm and reattach all the plug caps/suppressors. I feel fairly confident this will cure that problem because of that electrical ticking noise I heard, and, the fact that when that ticking stopped I pretty much instantly burned my fingers again on the other down pipe.
So as requested earlier any advice on the ignition switch/lock would be much appreciated, attached is a link of the ones on EvilBay
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ignition-Switch-Yamaha-FZS-600-Fazer-5DMC-2001-/361676497758?hash=item543599635e:g:dTEAAOSwnQhXpDvY (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ignition-Switch-Yamaha-FZS-600-Fazer-5DMC-2001-/361676497758?hash=item543599635e:g:dTEAAOSwnQhXpDvY)
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Cheers Tommy, the previous owner has very kindly to provide a new battery so I think he knows he has stiffed me over this one, hence me getting straight onto the phone with him :)
Great that's what we all like a positive result :thumbup
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Well I've learnt 3 things this evening, 1. It is the battery that's fucked, 2. I need to by the uprated sprocket but as the old one is on (luckily its tight with no play) and 3. I need to find my winter gloves, feck me its coldcout, only did about 2 miles and can't feel my fingers, face, legs, balls. Best get winter clothes shopping. Any recommendations for decent winter gear?
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Well I've learnt 3 things this evening, 1. It is the battery that's fucked, 2. I need to by the uprated sprocket but as the old one is on (luckily its tight with no play) and 3. I need to find my winter gloves, feck me its coldcout, only did about 2 miles and can't feel my fingers, face, legs, balls. Best get winter clothes shopping. Any recommendations for decent winter gear?
Yep put on a nice 2 door sports car until the end of Arpil, then get on the Fazer.
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Another quick question, after taking the front sprocket casing off I could see there was a gasket around this casing and it was knackered, dies anyone know the name or part number of this so I can purchase another. Cheers
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The Alpinestar Andes Drystar is worth a look. Around £270 for the suit and was RIDE recommended in 2015. It's not Rukka, but then it's not around £1k.
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Another quick question, after taking the front sprocket casing off I could see there was a gasket around this casing and it was knackered, dies anyone know the name or part number of this so I can purchase another. Cheers
Hi Darren my FZS 600 has never since I owned it had a gasket in the joint its is not an enclosure of any sort and of course it is open ended both bottom and back for chain access/exit why would you need a paper gasket here?
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I'm only asking because there was already a gasket in place so weren't sure if if needed one or not, maybe just so it seats tightly and stops vibrations of the Allen key bolts coming loose??? I know the gasket serves no purpose in terms of stopping stuff getting in/out with it being open ended. I have some liquid gasket seal, might just clean it all up take the old knackered gasket out and pop some of that on :)
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Robbo picked up a fleabay bargain, for the full alpinestars Andes suit for £92 (second hand of course but like new) just need some decent gloves now, the Richa cold protect gtx get some good reviews and are reasonable price so might have to invest in them
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You've had a touch there Darren , well done. If you're new bike is going to be a regular commuter, I'd go for heated grips and bar muffs. I know the muffs score zero on street cred, but having been at this motorbike lark for a real long time, they do work and save having to use thicker winter gloves. You can fit or remove them in 10 minutes. For heated grips Dr. Bike for cheap reliable and cheerful, or Oxford if more sophisticated are needed. Some muffs and the Dr.Bikes would be cheaper than a decent pair of winter gloves. Well done again on the suit. :thumbup