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Re: Camping
« Reply #100 on: 23 March 2014, 09:48:00 pm »
Cadair was a slog!

In the hills, I usually carried a tin of sardines, packs of Supernoodles and a couple of choc bars as emergency rations in case I didn't get to any shops in time to get something more substantial  :eek

For lunches in the hills in the Lakes region, I took a pack of Krackerwheat, some of that tubed cheese stuff, and, yes Noggy, Mattessons sausage - slice the sausage (cold) onto the crackers, top with the squeezy-cheese and you're done. Packets of fresh (as opposed to dried) pasta ok too - I liked the cheese n ham-filled pasta shells myself. Boil in the bag meals are ok if you pick the good ones, but backpacking uses a lot of energy, and each meal was about a fiver - really needed at least two of an evening to replenish expended energy.

On a bike? Cafes and takeaways has to be the way to go!  :D

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Re: Camping
« Reply #101 on: 23 March 2014, 10:01:31 pm »
Cadair was a slog!

In the hills, I usually carried a tin of sardines,

On a bike? Cafes and takeaways has to be the way to go!  :D
Started well but Wtf  :eek he's not even got his passport and he's beginning to soften. Won't be long before the b&b list comes out  :D
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« Reply #102 on: 23 March 2014, 10:09:11 pm »
Started well but Wtf  :eek he's not even got his passport and he's beginning to soften. Won't be long before the b&b list comes out  :D

Sorry, how many cafes was it you "visited" today?  :rollin

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Re: Camping
« Reply #103 on: 23 March 2014, 10:37:00 pm »
Boef a la mode as the French say  Nicky boy ;)
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Re: Camping
« Reply #104 on: 31 March 2014, 03:46:03 pm »
So I did my first little camping expedition last weekend. Not the Scottish wild camping trip I'm working up to, but Woodland camping as a dry run, to test the kit and see what I learnt.

And I even made some great new friends too which was nice  :)


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Re: Camping
« Reply #105 on: 31 March 2014, 08:01:45 pm »
nice fazer, nice fry up, nice spot  never figure out how u packed that bench though  :rollin :rollin :rollin
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« Reply #106 on: 31 March 2014, 09:17:23 pm »
Which site is that?
 
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Re: Camping
« Reply #107 on: 04 April 2014, 04:02:43 pm »
Hi Dickturpin,

Sorry didn't reply sooner only just spotted your question. It's Newbourne Woodland Campsite in Suffolk. Not a huge woodland but nice spot. I'm building up to getting proper out in the sticks.

http://www.newbourne-campsite.co.uk/

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Re: Camping
« Reply #108 on: 04 April 2014, 05:27:57 pm »
nice fazer, nice fry up, nice spot  never figure out how u packed that bench though  :rollin :rollin :rollin
U beat me to the bench  :'(

Think I should start looking to getting some gear :]
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Re: Camping
« Reply #109 on: 04 April 2014, 06:16:02 pm »
[Think I should start looking to getting some gear :]

What for? I thought you were going tactical? Living off the land an all that?  :lol
 
I'm gonna need a larger waterproof bag for 3 weeks in Europe. 50l is ok for a weekend, but I'm looking for a waterproof bag (seabag type thing?) of nearer to 80l-ish I reckon. Can anyone recommend anything? I want it to strap to the pillion seat, not be too wide across the bike.

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Re: Camping
« Reply #110 on: 04 April 2014, 07:23:57 pm »
how about the 70l dry bags for canoes on ebay? I've got orange one. not to easy to carry but bunji strapped to bike nice and you can get them with shoulder straps
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« Reply #111 on: 04 April 2014, 07:29:40 pm »
I use a lewis 80l dry bag that I got from get geared.  Its a bit bulky but takes masses of kit if you pack it well.
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Re: Camping
« Reply #112 on: 04 April 2014, 10:01:08 pm »
I met a lovely couple... it was before the site normally opened and so the owners asked some regulars to show me around... since i was travelling alone kindly invited me to hangout round the camp fire with them on the friday night and so i naturally took them to the pub saturday night. Nicest people I've met in a long time got on well and like to think we'll remain friends. And they even got engaged! Still that's what happens if you buy enough rounds  ;)

I cooked fresh fish one night, fried in lemon juice and served with new potatoes with butter and parsley. The cooking side is/was one of my big questions and so it's been fun to gain a bit of confidence. I'm really getting in to this camping... I knew I liked the outdoors due to childhood camping but the friendly/community feel from other campers was a nice surprise :) Reminded me of bike community.

Looking forward to the wild camping but think I need another test as still learning:

  • Need a better mattress.
  • Love the Coleman stove (it's fun) but not sure I can carry enough fuel and it's availability doesn't seem great
  • Happy to buy fresh food daily so storage less of an issue, but you still end up buying big loads of stuff that won't keep (butter, etc) seems wasteful
  • Sleeping bag good (it was 3 degress fri night and i was fine) but maybe a more compact alternative for summer months

Oddly woke up with two whippets in my tend Sun morning  :eek

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Re: Camping
« Reply #113 on: 04 April 2014, 10:13:03 pm »
Wild camping is a different ball game to using commercial campsites Andy. IMO, the best way to do it in the UK is to take boil-in-the-bag or tinned, or sealed packages of food that will just need heating through, plus some treats/snacks, and enough for 3 or 4 days at a time. By then, you will probably want a shower and clean-up, so go to an established site with facilities for a day or 2, then repeat. I did this on my fell-walking holiday in the Lakes region and it worked well. You can carry more on the bike, so you needn't starve, and you can then have a pig out in a restaurant or enjoy cooking more elaborate meals when you finish each wild camping "session". Only a suggestion of course, but we're not all Ray Mears or Ranulph Fiennes - no need to make it an endurance event to enjoy it!
 

 

 
 
 
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Re: Camping
« Reply #114 on: 04 April 2014, 10:13:15 pm »
Dont worry, dogging is all the go nowadays
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Re: Camping
« Reply #115 on: 04 April 2014, 11:04:58 pm »
Wild camping is a different ball game to using commercial campsites Andy. IMO, the best way to do it in the UK is to take boil-in-the-bag or tinned, or sealed packages of food that will just need heating through,


All is good he's taking  Pizza hut menu to the Alps


plus some treats/snacks, and enough for 3 or 4 days at a time.


For the bit of rough....Not my Heidi tho ;)






you can then have a pig out in a restaurant


I have enough trouble getting a pig come in to a restaurant


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Re: Camping
« Reply #116 on: 07 April 2014, 11:01:45 pm »
recently got a 70 litre waterproof roll bag from hein gerick looks huge havent used it yet mind but serious looking yoke

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Re: Camping
« Reply #117 on: 21 April 2014, 06:36:48 pm »
Bought a new tent from Go outdoors for Scotland this summer , on the bag it says Hydrostatic head with the number 4000 above it , anyone knows what this means .

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Re: Camping
« Reply #118 on: 21 April 2014, 07:47:20 pm »
Bought a new tent from Go outdoors for Scotland this summer , on the bag it says Hydrostatic head with the number 4000 above it , anyone knows what this means .

I'm glad you asked that  :lol
 
HH is a measure of how waterproof a fabric is.
It's tested by taking a tube of water and fixing the material over the bottom. If it resists leaking up to 2m (2000mm) of water in the tube, then it's rating will be 2000mm HH. For a tent groundsheet, you ideally want 5000mm HH or more, as your weight is pushing the material down, effectively trying to force water through.
 
4000mm will most likely be fine in the summer, as long as you don't pitch on particularly wet/boggy ground. In fact, for most commercial campsites, where drainage is usually quite good, you won't have to worry about it.

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« Reply #119 on: 21 April 2014, 08:04:12 pm »
camping.............take one of these

fit bike in the back..............sorted
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« Reply #120 on: 21 April 2014, 10:34:17 pm »
Cheers Nick , we will probably only use it the once , so didn't want to spend a fortune  I will have to pitch it on a slight incline , but I won't tell the wife it will be crap if it pisses down .
Bought a new tent from Go outdoors for Scotland this summer , on the bag it says Hydrostatic head with the number 4000 above it , anyone knows what this means .

I'm glad you asked that  :lol
 
HH is a measure of how waterproof a fabric is.
It's tested by taking a tube of water and fixing the material over the bottom. If it resists leaking up to 2m (2000mm) of water in the tube, then it's rating will be 2000mm HH. For a tent groundsheet, you ideally want 5000mm HH or more, as your weight is pushing the material down, effectively trying to force water through.
 
4000mm will most likely be fine in the summer, as long as you don't pitch on particularly wet/boggy ground. In fact, for most commercial campsites, where drainage is usually quite good, you won't have to worry about it.

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« Reply #121 on: 21 April 2014, 10:37:47 pm »
That's for when I win the lottery .
camping.............take one of these

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« Reply #122 on: 03 June 2014, 04:18:48 pm »
Normally I advise not bothering with camping on tours, go for cheap B&Bs/hotels. But seeing as I'm being made redundant I'll doing the camping thing. I had planned to go to Croatia this year for a 2 week trip, but now I'll have loads of time. 

I've done loads of camping before over the years, but nothing too recent. The last time I camped with the bike was WSB at Brands years ago when at the bottom of Paddock Hill bend a new pond appeared. The pits flooded too, so did the campsite where about 1/3rd of the tents were sitting in water. I gave up bike/camping after that.

I have bought a load of kit to replace my older,  larger items.

All this I've fitted into a 46l topbox:

Tent - http://www.nevisport.com/pr/8958/hoolie-2  - packs down to 42cm x 15cm
Its a lot smaller than my current 2 man dome tent, but as there is only me I'm not too bothered.

Sleeping bag - http://www.gooutdoors.co.uk/vango-ultralite-600-sleeping-bag-p196171 - packs down to 20cm x 17cm (4.5L). I was going to get a Nitestar 350 as they looked good VFM, but when you compare the size when packed down, due to different materials and also a tighter fit,  it was a no brainer.  Twice the cost though.

Stove - I pondered about this for ages, but went for a petrol one rather than gas. You can get some really small gas stoves but finding fuel might be difficult in some places. http://www.gooutdoors.co.uk/coleman-sportster-2-camping-stove-p118560
At least I will be carrying a 17l fuel tank at all times.

Pans - http://www.blacks.co.uk/equipment/107901-vango-non-stick-cook-kit-2-person.html . I could have gone smaller with the 1 person set, but the frying pan might not be big enough for an egg  :001:

All that fits into the top box comfortably, and isnt too heavy either.  I can fit in my puncture repair kit, wd40, chain lube, toolkit around it.

I might also get some tarpaulin to go under the tent http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ECONOMY-TARPAULIN-TARP-LIGHTWEIGHT-WATERPROOF-GROUND-SHEET-COVER-GREAT-VALUE-/400270626376

The sleeping mat, one of those self inflating ones when you roll them out like this one,  http://www.gooutdoors.co.uk/hi-gear-explorer-5cm-sleeping-mat-p143981, Top it up with air after. That will go in a kit bag with my clothes strapped to the pillion seat on the grab rails. I was thinking of getting some new throw over panniers, but the bag should suffice.

I wouldn't mind going on a mini trip away to test it all out,  but not to keen on the weather at the moment tbh  :190:

This is a useful website for camping in Europe.  http://en.camping.info/campsites eg Lake Bled in Slovenia - €7.52 a night. Germany/Austria/Belgium/Luxembourg etc are more expensive, €10-€20 a night but will be better equipped than the €5 ones in Montenegro/Romania.   They seem expensive in Croatia, but I've only had a quick look so haven't found any cheaper ones. There seems to be a cheaper mini-camping market where people with a bit of spare land on their farms/hotels etc offer cheap basic camping, just toilets and showers, no bar/kiddies creche/swimming pool etc


Well I left for Brands BSB on April 19th and got back yesterday. Assen WSB, Germany, Austria, Slovenia, Croatia then back home.  Camped 2/3rds of the time,  sometimes after a wet ride couldn't be bothered with the tent. The tent was adequate, no better. The groundsheet wasn't that waterproof, lucky I took another more durable one as well as I thought the one in the tent was suss. 2 tabs on the zipper bust as well. It let a bit of water through 1 zip in a downpour. Stove, sleeping bag etc were all fine. Fold up stool was a good suggestion, although some of the more customer friendly sites provided a plastic chair for those on 2 wheels. My 6*18 inch plyboard was useful as a tray/table and took up no room.
Didn't put the bag/tent/stove in the top box, packed them separately in case the tent was wet, or the stove smelt. Will post more and some pics at some point when I get my laptop working.

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« Reply #123 on: 03 June 2014, 10:20:58 pm »
looking forward to seeing the pics bud ,and all about the adventure too
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« Reply #124 on: 10 June 2014, 10:12:37 am »
To fill it I have a length of small flex tube and a small syringe, like you get for filling printer ink cartridges, to get a siphon going. 


I bought a 1m length of 6mm tubing from B&Q. Put most of it into the tank, put your finger over the end, then take most of it out and when the end with petrol in the tube is below tank level you are ready to stick it into the stove and it will start siphoning. I think I will get an interim container and siphon into that first. Petrol is a bit smelly though.
I had a failure with a gas canister seal once. Having a 1/4 of a can of gas escaping out was a bit scary, it was a good job the stove wasn't hot.


My method only worked when the tank was full. I'll be getting a syringe. Glad I took one of these and filled it up at petrol stations when I knew the stove was running low.
http://www.gooutdoors.co.uk/trangia-trangia-camping-stove-p141011

This was useful on my last tour especially when some sites included electricity in the price. Others charged up to €4 a night!  3 point connections are the norm in Europe and the UK at campsites.
http://www.gooutdoors.co.uk/mains-uk-conversion-lead-p155315