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Title: IN CAR RECORDING CAMERAS
Post by: DILLIGAFF on 23 March 2015, 11:31:45 am
Just bought and tested one of these....


http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B005Q6CJI4?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B005Q6CJI4?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00)


Cheap but works well AND of course they just reduced the price to under £10 !!!!


May work on a bike if the suction cap fixes to the inside of a fairing or maybe even the tank? (Not sure about voltage?)


First time I used mine I filmed a young girl drive straight through a red light !!!!


Worth a lookie lou.

Title: Re: IN CAR RECORDING CAMERAS
Post by: Frosties on 23 March 2015, 11:59:54 am
Damm good heads up there - cheers, just bought one  :thumbup
Title: Re: IN CAR RECORDING CAMERAS
Post by: taylor on 23 March 2015, 04:43:34 pm
do you need the card and the other thing with it? I been looking for one, that looks fine.
Title: Re: IN CAR RECORDING CAMERAS
Post by: DILLIGAFF on 23 March 2015, 05:12:20 pm
Will need an SD card, bigger the better, but comes with everything else. Has a USB lead and a 12v car ciggie socket.
If you work out how to turn on the Infra Red let me know.
As I say you may find better but probably not cheaper?
Title: Re: IN CAR RECORDING CAMERAS
Post by: Dead Eye on 23 March 2015, 05:59:35 pm
Nice find, I've added it to my wish list for now and will probably buy it when funds aren't as dicey as they are right now
Title: Re: IN CAR RECORDING CAMERAS
Post by: taylor on 23 March 2015, 06:50:34 pm
just ordered nice one. :)
Title: Re: IN CAR RECORDING CAMERAS
Post by: odbguy on 23 March 2015, 08:27:18 pm
I'm here to be a pain in someone's arse ..
Any chance of a few pics of what this looks like set up on the dash please?
Title: Re: IN CAR RECORDING CAMERAS
Post by: ChristoT on 23 March 2015, 08:54:45 pm
Nice find, I've added it to my wish list for now and will probably buy it when funds aren't as dicey as they are right now

Ditto.  :)
Title: Re: IN CAR RECORDING CAMERAS
Post by: the cueball on 23 March 2015, 09:44:11 pm
I had one of these, worked fine for a few months, then it started to only record when it felt like..


not the best quality, or the easiest to use.


hope you have better luck than me... I use my Contour Roam camera in the car now as well as a helmet cam.


 ;)
Title: Re: IN CAR RECORDING CAMERAS
Post by: DILLIGAFF on 24 March 2015, 11:51:45 am
ODBGUY................here you go


http://lmgtfy.com/?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.co.uk%2Fgp%2Fproduct%2FB005Q6CJI4%3Fpsc%3D1%26redirect%3Dtrue%26ref_%3Doh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00 (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.co.uk%2Fgp%2Fproduct%2FB005Q6CJI4%3Fpsc%3D1%26redirect%3Dtrue%26ref_%3Doh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00)




 :rolleyes
Title: Re: IN CAR RECORDING CAMERAS
Post by: darrsi on 24 March 2015, 12:49:42 pm
I know it says you preferably need a 32Gb Class 10 SD card but which SD card is it exactly, there appears to be a choice, like micro sd, ultra micro sd, etc?
Title: Re: IN CAR RECORDING CAMERAS
Post by: Dead Eye on 24 March 2015, 12:53:23 pm
Standard SD size (aka not Micro or Mini)

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Transcend-Premium-Class-UHS-I-Memory/dp/B00B1862ZW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1427201593&sr=8-1&keywords=32GB+SD+Card (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Transcend-Premium-Class-UHS-I-Memory/dp/B00B1862ZW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1427201593&sr=8-1&keywords=32GB+SD+Card)
Title: Re: IN CAR RECORDING CAMERAS
Post by: darrsi on 24 March 2015, 02:01:14 pm
Standard SD size (aka not Micro or Mini)

[url]http://www.amazon.co.uk/Transcend-Premium-Class-UHS-I-Memory/dp/B00B1862ZW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1427201593&sr=8-1&keywords=32GB+SD+Card[/url] ([url]http://www.amazon.co.uk/Transcend-Premium-Class-UHS-I-Memory/dp/B00B1862ZW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1427201593&sr=8-1&keywords=32GB+SD+Card[/url])



Nice one, i ordered a camera yesterday for my mum's motor.
If i haven't got an SD card hidden somewhere at home i'm sure my boss will have a stash of them at work, although i s'pose any card would do with the adaptor.  :thumbup 
Title: Re: IN CAR RECORDING CAMERAS
Post by: odbguy on 24 March 2015, 02:32:07 pm
ODBGUY................here you go


[url]http://lmgtfy.com/?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.co.uk%2Fgp%2Fproduct%2FB005Q6CJI4%3Fpsc%3D1%26redirect%3Dtrue%26ref_%3Doh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00[/url] ([url]http://lmgtfy.com/?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.co.uk%2Fgp%2Fproduct%2FB005Q6CJI4%3Fpsc%3D1%26redirect%3Dtrue%26ref_%3Doh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00[/url])




 :rolleyes


Hey thanks,  iv obviously clicked on this link before.
I was after a pic of it actually set up in your motor not just a few pics on amazon with a white back ground and the box it comes so i could see how it looked set up ..
Not to worry .. lol
Title: Re: IN CAR RECORDING CAMERAS
Post by: Frosties on 24 March 2015, 02:34:32 pm
Found Youtube clip of a Test of this camera - looks good to me. Can't wait for mine.

Set the Youtube playback setting to 720(HD)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-4MRLv6oRs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-4MRLv6oRs)
Title: Re: IN CAR RECORDING CAMERAS
Post by: darrsi on 24 March 2015, 03:08:54 pm
32Gb SD card apparently gives you 6.5 hours recording of video/audio on a loop when set to 720p, but it's advised you buy a Class 10 SD card. (for those of you who can't be arsed to read the reviews)  :thumbup
Title: Re: IN CAR RECORDING CAMERAS
Post by: Dead Eye on 24 March 2015, 04:14:04 pm
Note that Class 10 only requires the card to perform at a minimum Read / Write speed of 10 MB/s and that you can get varying cards even at this classification.

The card I linked to is UHS-I (Ultra High Speed I) rated and performs at up to 45 MB/s despite the minimum requirement still being 10 MB/s. Take all of this in to account when buying a "high performance" SD Card before you get caught out like a few others who reviewed probably did.

More information, should you wish, is available here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Digital (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Digital)
Title: Re: IN CAR RECORDING CAMERAS
Post by: bigralphie on 24 March 2015, 04:19:26 pm
ta ordered
Title: Re: IN CAR RECORDING CAMERAS
Post by: Dinger1962 on 24 March 2015, 09:22:25 pm
Ordered mine last night along with class 10 card as recommended in the reviews when it arrives will let you know how it goes
Title: Re: IN CAR RECORDING CAMERAS
Post by: bigralphie on 25 March 2015, 12:03:48 pm
I might use mine as a home security camera set to motion detect and have it look at the bike through the dinning room window  :D
Title: Re: IN CAR RECORDING CAMERAS
Post by: Robbie8666 on 25 March 2015, 12:36:08 pm
I might use mine as a home security camera set to motion detect and have it look at the bike through the dinning room window  :D

 
link wrt using security cameras! worth a quick read prior to installing it just to cover yourselves
 
http://www.protectingyourself.co.uk/security-cameras-and-the-law.html (http://www.protectingyourself.co.uk/security-cameras-and-the-law.html)
 
Title: Re: IN CAR RECORDING CAMERAS
Post by: bigralphie on 25 March 2015, 12:44:36 pm
ta but it will only capture images on my property as the bike is in a wooden lean to at the back of the house  :)
Title: Re: IN CAR RECORDING CAMERAS
Post by: darrsi on 25 March 2015, 01:26:00 pm
Note that Class 10 only requires the card to perform at a minimum Read / Write speed of 10 MB/s and that you can get varying cards even at this classification.

The card I linked to is UHS-I (Ultra High Speed I) rated and performs at up to 45 MB/s despite the minimum requirement still being 10 MB/s. Take all of this in to account when buying a "high performance" SD Card before you get caught out like a few others who reviewed probably did.

More information, should you wish, is available here [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Digital[/url] ([url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Digital[/url])



Cool, i wanna see if there's any knocking about at work first, but i have this week off so won't know 'til Monday, but it's being delivered to work anyway so no big deal.
There's a small chance my boss will have a large unwanted stash of them.  :D
Title: Re: IN CAR RECORDING CAMERAS
Post by: fazersharp on 25 March 2015, 01:58:42 pm
I watched the vid at 720 and could not read any number plate or sign posts, is that an issue or was that just settings my end
Title: Re: IN CAR RECORDING CAMERAS
Post by: darrsi on 25 March 2015, 02:31:33 pm
I watched the vid at 720 and could not read any number plate or sign posts, is that an issue or was that just settings my end


You record at 720p
Title: Re: IN CAR RECORDING CAMERAS
Post by: Fazafou on 25 March 2015, 03:53:52 pm
You can record and watch.

A video can be recorded in 1080p but you can still watch in 720p if you want.

Either way 720p should be fine to read plates/signs. If you can it's probably more to do with poor quality video or vibration.

For 10 quid i doubt it will be fantastic and the Amazon reviews pretty much show this.

Ok for a bit of fun, but I wouldn't want to rely on the video for insurance purposes.
Title: Re: IN CAR RECORDING CAMERAS
Post by: Dead Eye on 25 March 2015, 04:05:48 pm
One more quick anecdote - 720p and 1080p define the SIZE of the video in pixels, not the quality of the image ;)

720p is 1280x720 pixels
1080p is 1920x1080 pixels


And no, the p does not stand for pixels ;)
Title: Re: IN CAR RECORDING CAMERAS
Post by: fazersharp on 25 March 2015, 04:12:54 pm
I was refering to this
Quote
Set the Youtube playback setting to 720(HD)

I did and the playback quality was no that good and the reason for my interest was for insurance use
Title: Re: IN CAR RECORDING CAMERAS
Post by: Frosties on 25 March 2015, 04:57:31 pm
I was refering to this
Quote
Set the Youtube playback setting to 720(HD)

I did and the playback quality was no that good and the reason for my interest was for insurance use

Similar reasons with me Sharpy, but for£20 all in I thought I'd take a punt. Should arrive today/tomorrow so will take a quick vid and post it up along with a couple of still frames from the vid.

I was thinking that if the quality wasn't 100% then I would be taking camera shots out of the car anyhows and the video would give the whole picture.

Let you know fella.
Title: Re: IN CAR RECORDING CAMERAS
Post by: darrsi on 25 March 2015, 05:46:11 pm
One more quick anecdote - 720p and 1080p define the SIZE of the video in pixels, not the quality of the image ;)

720p is 1280x720 pixels
1080p is 1920x1080 pixels


And no, the p does not stand for pixels ;)


The 'P' stands for pyjamas, you will see a clearer picture if you watch playback in your pyjamas.
20 years a video assist technician.......I know my stuff.
Title: Re: IN CAR RECORDING CAMERAS
Post by: Dead Eye on 25 March 2015, 06:16:45 pm
I know you do darrsi, just putting out there for anyone else perusing this thread ^.^
Title: Re: IN CAR RECORDING CAMERAS
Post by: darrsi on 25 March 2015, 09:27:48 pm
I know you do darrsi, just putting out there for anyone else perusing this thread ^.^

 :lol
Title: Re: IN CAR RECORDING CAMERAS
Post by: fireblake on 30 March 2015, 04:15:27 pm
A mate has just bought one of these and its stuck to the side of his fairing. I've seen footage of him doing 150mph (private race track) and the footage is pretty impressive quality
http://www.amazon.co.uk/eSynic%C2%AE-Camera--Waterproof-Camcorder--Climbing/dp/B00GLPW3U8/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1427716026&sr=8-10&keywords=dvr+mini+9 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/eSynic%C2%AE-Camera--Waterproof-Camcorder--Climbing/dp/B00GLPW3U8/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1427716026&sr=8-10&keywords=dvr+mini+9)
It will need a good quality card. The battery seems to last for about an hour. The only negative being sound quality, or noise. It has the mike as part of the body so wind noise is a nuisance.


Mickey
Title: Re: IN CAR RECORDING CAMERAS
Post by: Dinger1962 on 03 April 2015, 03:15:27 pm
Ordered mine 24th march  sd card arrived but no sign of camera :\
Title: Re: IN CAR RECORDING CAMERAS
Post by: taylor on 03 April 2015, 03:21:58 pm
me the same dinger, :\
Title: Re: IN CAR RECORDING CAMERAS
Post by: Frosties on 03 April 2015, 04:02:55 pm
My card arrived 1st April, Camera on 2nd.

Not long set it up - Can't seem to get mine to record in anything but VGA. Will try again.
Title: Re: IN CAR RECORDING CAMERAS
Post by: darrsi on 03 April 2015, 04:27:51 pm
I ordered one as well, still no sign of it?
Title: Re: IN CAR RECORDING CAMERAS
Post by: Frosties on 03 April 2015, 04:52:11 pm
My card arrived 1st April, Camera on 2nd.

Not long set it up - Can't seem to get mine to record in anything but VGA. Will try again.


Okay, think mine is either a Chinese copy or an old one - mine doesn't have the same functions as the one in this link (look at 5mins onwards)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9pnVzSmw5U (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9pnVzSmw5U)

Still not a bad camera though for the money and is more than adequate for any insurance issue.
Title: Re: IN CAR RECORDING CAMERAS
Post by: Dead Eye on 03 April 2015, 05:54:23 pm
In those sorts of Amazon group buys, the items aren't always from the same seller / Merchant so often have different delivery methods and dates ;)
Title: Re: IN CAR RECORDING CAMERAS
Post by: darrsi on 07 April 2015, 12:25:10 pm
Just looked at my order, I never realised it was coming from Hong Kong, I doubt i'll see that for a while yet then.  :\
Title: Re: IN CAR RECORDING CAMERAS
Post by: sinto on 07 April 2015, 09:27:33 pm
Just looked at my order, I never realised it was coming from Hong Kong, I doubt i'll see that for a while yet then.  :\
You better look again darrsi,  did you by chance order it on April 1st? lol
Title: Re: IN CAR RECORDING CAMERAS
Post by: bigralphie on 09 April 2015, 12:11:45 pm
mine says delivery between 2 and 24th April
Title: Re: IN CAR RECORDING CAMERAS
Post by: darrsi on 09 April 2015, 12:52:41 pm
mine says delivery between 2 and 24th April

Yeah, mine's similar, ordered 24th March I think.
Title: Re: IN CAR RECORDING CAMERAS
Post by: taylor on 18 April 2015, 07:42:24 pm
mine arrived today all good, nice bit of kit for the money, ;)
Title: Re: IN CAR RECORDING CAMERAS
Post by: darrsi on 19 April 2015, 09:20:51 am
Standard SD size (aka not Micro or Mini)

[url]http://www.amazon.co.uk/Transcend-Premium-Class-UHS-I-Memory/dp/B00B1862ZW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1427201593&sr=8-1&keywords=32GB+SD+Card[/url] ([url]http://www.amazon.co.uk/Transcend-Premium-Class-UHS-I-Memory/dp/B00B1862ZW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1427201593&sr=8-1&keywords=32GB+SD+Card[/url])



Just noticed "frustration free packaging" for an extra £2.30 on top, does that mean they use their scissors to open the plastic packet, rather than you attempting to open it with your teeth whilst strapped up in a strait jacket???  :rolleyes


Ordered off Ebay eventually, even though i still haven't got my camera yet.  :\
Title: Re: IN CAR RECORDING CAMERAS
Post by: bigralphie on 19 April 2015, 10:20:27 am
yep no sign of mine yet  :rolleyes
Title: Re: IN CAR RECORDING CAMERAS
Post by: darrsi on 19 April 2015, 12:10:48 pm
yep no sign of mine yet  :rolleyes


Hong Kong used to be okay with post in the UK, but a workmate told me things have changed due to tighter security which is why it can take a bit longer now.
I reckon it'll turn up next week.  :thumbup


Dunno why i'm getting excited, i don't even drive, i'll set it up in my mums car.  :car 
Title: Re: IN CAR RECORDING CAMERAS
Post by: Dinger1962 on 19 April 2015, 03:00:58 pm
at last mine has arrived  -struggling to read blurred instructions--got it working of a fashion--ill get mrs dinger on the job she good with fiddley buttons
Title: Re: IN CAR RECORDING CAMERAS
Post by: taylor on 19 April 2015, 04:57:48 pm
mine turned up on a pushbike with a chinky riding it, and a brown bag in his hand, shouting you want soft finger, effing else,. :rollin
Title: Re: IN CAR RECORDING CAMERAS
Post by: darrsi on 20 April 2015, 08:40:54 am
It's arrived  :woot
Title: Re: IN CAR RECORDING CAMERAS
Post by: bigralphie on 22 April 2015, 10:32:37 pm
yep got mine
lets see how well it works as a movement triggered security camera  :D
Title: Re: IN CAR RECORDING CAMERAS
Post by: darrsi on 23 April 2015, 06:16:54 am
My SD card should turn up today, i'll have a look at it properly after work tonight.
Title: Re: IN CAR RECORDING CAMERAS
Post by: fireblake on 23 April 2015, 08:52:21 am
Did anyone get a battery with there's? I bought one, it has an internal battery but never came with a removable battery. My picture quality is abysmal too, I can only read number plates of vehicles close than 10 feet away. Barely tell what brand of car is attached to the plate. I'm in contact with the seller so let's hope I can remedy the poor picture.


Mickey
Title: Re: IN CAR RECORDING CAMERAS
Post by: darrsi on 23 April 2015, 10:30:18 am
Mine came with a battery, SD card hasn't shown up yet though.  :\

I've only switched the thing on to have a quick look, but first impressions on the small monitor were very good, which can only look better once the card is put into a laptop with a bigger screen.
Title: Re: IN CAR RECORDING CAMERAS
Post by: bigralphie on 23 April 2015, 01:02:50 pm
Same as darrsi ,will have a proper play at the weekend
Title: Re: IN CAR RECORDING CAMERAS
Post by: fireblake on 25 April 2015, 11:01:03 am
Here's a photo from my dash cam. After corresponding the chap at the other end said it was the same as the description but maybe not as good as I'd thought it would be. No shit says I.


Mickey
Title: Re: IN CAR RECORDING CAMERAS
Post by: fazersharp on 25 April 2015, 11:11:46 am
Thats what I said on page 1

I watched the vid at 720 and could not read any number plate or sign posts, is that an issue or was that just settings my end
Title: Re: IN CAR RECORDING CAMERAS
Post by: Fazerider on 25 April 2015, 12:06:29 pm
There may be focus issues as well, but the blockiness of that image makes it look like it wasn't taken by a 720 line sensor... I'd guess it's 180 lines interpolated up to fake high definition.
Title: Re: IN CAR RECORDING CAMERAS
Post by: darrsi on 25 April 2015, 12:13:46 pm
Still haven't played with mine, as SD card hasn't arrived although could now be at my work, but that does look particularly bad.
Did notice i could switch to 1080 as well though.
I'll post results shortly.
Title: Re: IN CAR RECORDING CAMERAS
Post by: bigralphie on 25 April 2015, 07:18:54 pm
My menu is not in english  :'(
anyone know how to change before I hunt the internet please ?
Title: Re: IN CAR RECORDING CAMERAS
Post by: darrsi on 25 April 2015, 08:50:51 pm
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Super-Legend-HD-Vehicle-Recorder/forum/-/-/1?_encoding=UTF8&asin=B005Q6CJI4 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Super-Legend-HD-Vehicle-Recorder/forum/-/-/1?_encoding=UTF8&asin=B005Q6CJI4)
Title: Re: IN CAR RECORDING CAMERAS
Post by: bigralphie on 25 April 2015, 10:32:31 pm
Thanks  :D
Title: Re: IN CAR RECORDING CAMERAS
Post by: darrsi on 26 April 2015, 02:07:39 pm
Just found an SD card, albeit not a high speed one, just so i could have a play with it.
First impressions........pretty damn ropey to be honest, but i'm gonna be more critical than most 'cos i spend all day looking at HD monitors at work.
720 was certainly noticably worse than 1080 so that won't get used, i never even bothered trying the VGA setting.
There's not many menus to go through, just adjust them one at a time and you can't go too wrong, unless you press the system reset button, then everything is displayed in Chinese, which is fine, if you're Chinese, but i am not.
If you do this perchance, press the menu button and it's the 2nd menu down that changes it back.
I noticed if you take a still of a paused video it makes it even worse so i've not bothered showing one on here yet, until i've tried the correct card out.
It didn't seem to do too much when i plugged the unit into the USB on my laptop, it didn't want to recognise it at all, but that's no big deal.
I took the card out, and inserted it into my laptop instead and it asked me if i wanted to download media, which it did straight away, then you can just play the file(s).
You need to format the card before using it too, which is on one of the menus.
I'll post more when it's been tried out properly, but for under a tenner i was hardly expecting 8k quality.
It is what it is.......cheap and cheerful, and is really designed to see vehicles misbehaving rather than the drivers eyes, so it is more than capable of doing the job.  :)
Title: Re: IN CAR RECORDING CAMERAS
Post by: Dead Eye on 27 April 2015, 09:39:14 am
Although not great for recording a license plate it would still be of use in a claim I reckon. Consider Punkstig's crash - no license shown but perfect evidence to show the fault of the driver :)
Title: Re: IN CAR RECORDING CAMERAS
Post by: darrsi on 27 April 2015, 01:15:20 pm
Poxy SD card still hasn't turned up.  :'(
Title: Re: IN CAR RECORDING CAMERAS
Post by: darrsi on 05 May 2015, 10:46:36 pm
Ebay refunded my money today, SD card never turned up and  i got no response from the seller.


Bastard.  :grumble
Title: Re: IN CAR RECORDING CAMERAS
Post by: bigralphie on 07 May 2015, 03:57:23 pm
well mine is up and running on motion detection string at the kwak in its little shed  :lol


Picture is ok good enough to ID a scote if they have not bothered to cover their face plus it looks the part being on the inside of my dinning room window


Darrsi I can get you a cheap class 10 card if you are struggling