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Title: Chain cleaning with isopropyl alcohol?
Post by: matt7chunk on 25 March 2018, 02:41:53 pm
Hey , as titled is isopropyl alcohol ok to clean chains without damaging the x rings? , its way cheaper than the aerosol cleaners on the market.
Title: Re: Chain cleaning with isopropyl alcohol?
Post by: bandit on 25 March 2018, 02:57:28 pm
Should be safe for O rings but it's not as cheap as paraffin. :)   
Title: Re: Chain cleaning with isopropyl alcohol?
Post by: Disorderlypunk on 25 March 2018, 02:59:58 pm
ive been using citrus sol to good results - good for cleaning all sorts of greasy parts
Title: Re: Chain cleaning with isopropyl alcohol?
Post by: darrsi on 25 March 2018, 03:52:40 pm
I use WD40 for cleaning my chain.
Title: Re: Chain cleaning with isopropyl alcohol?
Post by: matt7chunk on 25 March 2018, 04:09:43 pm
Should be safe for O rings but it's not as cheap as paraffin. :)
Isn't paraffin slippery as foc like diesel ? Not something I want near my tyres
Title: Re: Chain cleaning with isopropyl alcohol?
Post by: darrsi on 25 March 2018, 05:14:51 pm
Should be safe for O rings but it's not as cheap as paraffin. :)
Isn't paraffin slippery as foc like diesel ? Not something I want near my tyres


Not as slippery as oil?
Title: Re: Chain cleaning with isopropyl alcohol?
Post by: bandit on 25 March 2018, 05:18:27 pm
Should be safe for O rings but it's not as cheap as paraffin. :)
Isn't paraffin slippery as foc like diesel ? Not something I want near my tyres


You use a paraffin soaked rag to clean off crud then use a dry one after, unless your messy you shouldn't get any near the tyres.   
Title: Re: Chain cleaning with isopropyl alcohol?
Post by: Triggergee on 25 March 2018, 05:47:49 pm
I've got paraffin in a garden spray bottle and one of those spiral/cork screw chain brushes (very good!). I just prop some cardboard between the wheel and rear sprocket. Works very well and is as cheap as it comes.
Title: Re: Chain cleaning with isopropyl alcohol?
Post by: matt7chunk on 25 March 2018, 05:49:32 pm
Should be safe for O rings but it's not as cheap as paraffin. :)
Isn't paraffin slippery as foc like diesel ? Not something I want near my tyres


Not as slippery as oil?


I had that one coming  :rollin


Should be safe for O rings but it's not as cheap as paraffin. :)
Isn't paraffin slippery as foc like diesel ? Not something I want near my tyres


You use a paraffin soaked rag to clean off crud then use a dry one after, unless your messy you shouldn't get any near the tyres.   


Nice one bandit
Title: Re: Chain cleaning with isopropyl alcohol?
Post by: fazersharp on 25 March 2018, 07:42:18 pm
Paraffin here too. In a bottle with a squirty top cardboard between chain and wheel and Mrs Sharp's tooth brush.
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And after
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Title: Re: Chain cleaning with isopropyl alcohol?
Post by: Dave48 on 26 March 2018, 09:12:06 am
I buy a 4L container of paraffin from my local B&Q-lasts at least a year doing Tracer chain regularly. Protect tyre wheel & frame with newspaper. Have a dedicated chain cleaning brush that gets in the nooks & crannies then clean towelling rag and finally apply good chain lube or engine oil to clean chain.
Title: Re: Chain cleaning with isopropyl alcohol?
Post by: His Dudeness on 31 March 2018, 04:02:15 pm
I buy a 4L container of paraffin from my local B&Q-lasts at least a year doing Tracer chain regularly. Protect tyre wheel & frame with newspaper. Have a dedicated chain cleaning brush that gets in the nooks & crannies then clean towelling rag and finally apply good chain lube or engine oil to clean chain.

4L in a year! :eek that chain must be clean enough to eat your dinner off :lol
Title: Re: Chain cleaning with isopropyl alcohol?
Post by: Millietant on 06 April 2018, 11:04:03 pm
I'd be wary of using Isopropyl Alcohol on an O Ring chain - its very good at dissolving oils and greases, but also natural resins and it might affect the O Rings themselves, which could mean it might get past the O Rngs and dissolve the lubricant inside the chain elements.


We've used IA at work for many years fir cleaning work surfaces and simple tools, but we've always kept it away from rubber seals on machinery.
Title: Re: Chain cleaning with isopropyl alcohol?
Post by: darrsi on 07 April 2018, 12:16:22 am
IPA sorts out carb icing lovely, not recommended for chains though.
Keep it simple, WD40 dissolves shite, but weirdly lubes as well.
But then properly lube after as well.
Wurth is my weapon of choice, done me proud so far.
Title: Re: Chain cleaning with isopropyl alcohol?
Post by: Slaninar on 07 April 2018, 06:19:47 am
Years of not cleaning the chain. Using a Scottoiler. Recent (last weekend) pics of the bike and the chain after a ride on some roads right after some rain(s), with mud washed over them as well.

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Title: Re: Chain cleaning with isopropyl alcohol?
Post by: celticdog on 07 April 2018, 08:31:39 am
I swear by white spirit, does a great job of cleaning the chain and other bits too.  :)  At around £2 a litre you can't go wrong.
WD 40 is in fact made up of over 80% white spirit. It's good for driving out moisture but not aggressive like ipa
Title: Re: Chain cleaning with isopropyl alcohol?
Post by: darrsi on 07 April 2018, 09:15:24 am
I swear by white spirit, does a great job of cleaning the chain and other bits too.  :)  At around £2 a litre you can't go wrong.
WD 40 is in fact made up of over 80% white spirit. It's good for driving out moisture but not aggressive like ipa


Think it's about £2.99 a pint when the cider festival is on in most Wetherspoons.  :lol
Title: Re: Chain cleaning with isopropyl alcohol?
Post by: fazersharp on 07 April 2018, 10:32:24 am
You still can not beat the price of paraffin and is totally safe and if you leave the lid off it wont evaporate like IPB but that is one trate that is not good because it wont evaporate away and stays around the links which is not ideal when you are trying to relube. So I either blast it off with air or brake cleaner with instantly evaporates. So lots of cheap paraffin and a small amount of more expensive brake cleaner.   
Title: Re: Chain cleaning with isopropyl alcohol?
Post by: fazersharp on 07 April 2018, 10:38:52 am
I understand the idea of a scott oiler that it virtually constantly washes the chain as compared to a low fling wax type lube that will hold dirt and use a s a grinding paste, which is why the need to regularly clean. But I just don't like the ugly cable ties and the oil up my side wall and over the swing arm and up my boots and down Sharp Halls sweeping driveway.     
Title: Re: Chain cleaning with isopropyl alcohol?
Post by: Slaninar on 07 April 2018, 07:15:13 pm
I understand the idea of a scott oiler that it virtually constantly washes the chain as compared to a low fling wax type lube that will hold dirt and use a s a grinding paste, which is why the need to regularly clean. But I just don't like the ugly cable ties and the oil up my side wall and over the swing arm and up my boots and down Sharp Halls sweeping driveway.     

Didn't have any boot problems. Nor anything noticeable on a garage floor. But the bike's side does get some. For me it's a good trade off for not having to clean and lube the chain.
Title: Re: Chain cleaning with isopropyl alcohol?
Post by: fazersharp on 07 April 2018, 07:54:19 pm
I understand the idea of a scott oiler that it virtually constantly washes the chain as compared to a low fling wax type lube that will hold dirt and use a s a grinding paste, which is why the need to regularly clean. But I just don't like the ugly cable ties and the oil up my side wall and over the swing arm and up my boots and down Sharp Halls sweeping driveway.     

Didn't have any boot problems. Nor anything noticeable on a garage floor.
That's because all the crap on your bike soaks it up first  :pokefun
Title: Re: Chain cleaning with isopropyl alcohol?
Post by: Slaninar on 07 April 2018, 10:43:28 pm
I understand the idea of a scott oiler that it virtually constantly washes the chain as compared to a low fling wax type lube that will hold dirt and use a s a grinding paste, which is why the need to regularly clean. But I just don't like the ugly cable ties and the oil up my side wall and over the swing arm and up my boots and down Sharp Halls sweeping driveway.     

Didn't have any boot problems. Nor anything noticeable on a garage floor.
That's because all the crap on your bike soaks it up first  :pokefun

Lol.  :)  Good one.

Yes. I'm not a fan of washing the vehicles. Car used to be vacuumed inside, clean windows and lights, but the rest of the body - only when it rained.

As for (motor)bikes - clean chain, brake pads and disks/rims. Starts and ends there. With annual bearing service of the pushbike, and spring and autumn wash of the FZS - just to be able to spot any leaks - like you've noted.   :rollin
Title: Re: Chain cleaning with isopropyl alcohol?
Post by: darrsi on 08 April 2018, 08:33:52 am
I understand the idea of a scott oiler that it virtually constantly washes the chain as compared to a low fling wax type lube that will hold dirt and use a s a grinding paste, which is why the need to regularly clean. But I just don't like the ugly cable ties and the oil up my side wall and over the swing arm and up my boots and down Sharp Halls sweeping driveway.     

Didn't have any boot problems. Nor anything noticeable on a garage floor.
That's because all the crap on your bike soaks it up first  :pokefun

Lol.  :)  Good one.

Yes. I'm not a fan of washing the vehicles. Car used to be vacuumed inside, clean windows and lights, but the rest of the body - only when it rained.

As for (motor)bikes - clean chain, brake pads and disks/rims. Starts and ends there. With annual bearing service of the pushbike, and spring and autumn wash of the FZS - just to be able to spot any leaks - like you've noted.   :rollin


What's a car?


Are they those big things that are constantly driven by psychopaths out to get me?
Title: Re: Chain cleaning with isopropyl alcohol?
Post by: Slaninar on 08 April 2018, 07:02:37 pm
What's a car?


Are they those big things that are constantly driven by psychopaths out to get me?

A jewel of Yugoslav engineering:

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