Author Topic: 4 degree ignition advancer (Read 35187 times)

PaulSmith · « **Reply #75 on:** 25 September 2014, 12:52:13 pm »

First full tank with the advancer fitted doing my normal commute and 197 miles took 18.0 liters, (49.75mpg) which is a few percent better then I normally get ~180 miles for 17Litres (48.1 MPG). Not a big enough difference to catagorically say the mpg is improved, but worth keeping an eye on.

stevierst · « **Reply #76 on:** 25 September 2014, 12:57:18 pm »

That kind of improvement will soon pay for the £15 advancer though!

Happy days!

bigbluebear · « **Reply #77 on:** 26 November 2014, 09:40:12 am »

Just bought one and will get it fitted over the next day or so. I will also get it dyno'd and let you know the results

mickvp · « **Reply #78 on:** 26 November 2014, 09:50:33 am »

I'm not sure what sort of difference it will make on the dyno, but interested to see the results.

Definately makes things a bit sharper in "real life" terms, but whether that is quantifiable in terms of bhp or torque, I dunno?

Keep us informed BBB

bigbluebear · « **Reply #79 on:** 26 November 2014, 10:01:12 am »

Quote from: mickvp on 26 November 2014, 09:50:33 am

I'm not sure what sort of difference it will make on the dyno, but interested to see the results.

Definately makes things a bit sharper in "real life" terms, but whether that is quantifiable in terms of bhp or torque, I dunno?

Keep us informed BBB

Mick did you install yours before getting invanised.

I decided go give it a go as I can always take it off if it doesn't suit me

mickvp · « **Reply #80 on:** 26 November 2014, 10:02:47 am »

Aye, I shoved one in about 2 weeks before I went to the Ivanising. Noticed an immediate difference with it in, not quicker, just a bit sharper and smoother. I like it better in, but as you say, it's a cheap mod that you can undo if it doesn't suit you

fazed · « **Reply #81 on:** 15 December 2014, 12:30:23 pm »

I've just seen this thread and I'm just wondering if this 4 deg advance will affect starting. I've found that my carb fazer is a 'fussy' starter and always seems to take 2/3 goes to fire properly and careful adjustment of the choke. Does this mod help? I've done the checks on plugs & carbs, the air cleaner is fine too so I was wondering if the smoothness that's been talked about reflects in better starting too?

NorthWestern · « **Reply #82 on:** 15 December 2014, 02:28:32 pm »

Not 100% sure if it is the fact that my bike has a 2 deg advancer on it (unbeknown to me until a week or so ago) but my bike starts first prod WITHOUT choke or throttle, even on a cold day like this morning. If I DO use choke it takes a little while to fire up, 2 or 3 seconds on the button before it fires and if I let go of the start button it will die more often than not unless I give it a neighbour endearing "fistful".

So, I no longer use the choke....

fazerblue · « **Reply #83 on:** 24 December 2014, 06:43:49 pm »

hi has anyone got a picture of the engine cover the advancer sits behind not a clue which cover to remove to fit my advancer thanks

mickvp · « **Reply #84 on:** 24 December 2014, 06:53:56 pm »

Quote from: fazerblue on 24 December 2014, 06:43:49 pm

hi has anyone got a picture of the engine cover the advancer sits behind not a clue which cover to remove to fit my advancer thanks

Post 36 earlier in the thread mate. I posted a pic of the cover off. It's on the right hand side of the bike as you sit on it

fazerblue · « **Reply #85 on:** 26 December 2014, 08:21:33 am »

hi thanks was looking for a picture of cover still on the bike taken a bit further back to make sure i remove the right one as we are not all motorcycle experts would rather be sure of undoing the correct part thanks

sirgalahad3 · « **Reply #86 on:** 26 December 2014, 12:49:35 pm »

With all due respect fazerblue if your that uninformed about the bike I think you would be well advised not to mess and to take your bike to a proper service centre for the work.

fazerblue · « **Reply #87 on:** 26 December 2014, 07:47:42 pm »

true to a degree but nobody would know anything until they are shown and if we all gave up that easy we would all be riding our standard bikes all exactly the same and there would be no such thing as custom or mods or streetfighters its suprising what a little info can do.

mickvp · « **Reply #88 on:** 26 December 2014, 10:35:18 pm »

Fazsrblue. I think there is only the one small cover on that side of the engine. Its sort of shaped like a kidney bowl, only about 8-10 cap headed bolts holding it on. Put the bike on the side stand so the oil is at the other side of the engine too, to avoid spillage.

fazerblue · « **Reply #89 on:** 27 December 2014, 07:15:03 am »

thank you mickvp most helpful

karlo · « **Reply #90 on:** 27 December 2014, 08:05:43 pm »

fazerblue · « **Reply #91 on:** 27 December 2014, 08:54:38 pm »

thanks karlo

fazed · « **Reply #92 on:** 29 December 2014, 10:18:21 am »

I've fitted an ignition advancer (boy that bolt was TIGHT) and of course the gasket didn't come off cleanly....I looked on the WEMOTO site which is usually ok for Fazer stuff but no joy there.....any other sources or is it worth using some instant liquid gasket? Thanks

red98 · « **Reply #93 on:** 29 December 2014, 11:11:07 am »

Its only to stop the dust and dirt getting in, I now use a black sealent looks like a gasket when done much better than the orange stuff I used to use.....have you ridden the bike yet, wondering what the difference the advancer makes ...

nsr500v4 · « **Reply #94 on:** 29 December 2014, 12:36:54 pm »

http://yamahascooterspares.co.uk/product/yamaha/5LV154560000/gasket,%20oil%20pump%20cover%201?uID=0

Link for the gasket required for the advancer

fazed · « **Reply #95 on:** 29 December 2014, 03:31:24 pm »

Thanks for the link NSR..... Haven't had the chance to ride it with the 4deg advance in it yet but have started it - seems to be smoother & early rev range 'pick up' seems better - looking forward to the ice clearing and taking it out....here's hoping that it's not too long!

stevierst · « **Reply #96 on:** 29 December 2014, 08:21:22 pm »

Still haven't fitted mine to the R1 yet, it's sat there on the shelf gathering dust. I'd be interested in hearing the road riding improvements.

fazed · « **Reply #97 on:** 02 January 2015, 02:06:59 pm »

Finally managed to get out on the fazer after fitting the 4 deg advance mod. Have to say it seems more 'willing' also seem to have a smoother power delivery too, also had to adjust the idle after I came back home as it seemed to idle at almost 1400 rpm when previously it was idling at 1100rpm so I'm presuming it's making more efficient use of the fuel too. Looking forward to finding that out!

silverfz · « **Reply #98 on:** 02 January 2015, 06:25:23 pm »

"Looking at Ivans site....you can get 147bhp with an advancer, ported boots and K&N" you'll be lucky, good luck tho.

fazerblue · « **Reply #99 on:** 10 January 2015, 09:13:29 pm »

heres the number if you copy and paste it on ebay for the cover gasket
361066650899