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Indicators and the law governing the size
« on: 24 October 2015, 06:23:59 am »
Had some indicators delivered yesterday and they're tiny, the light is about 35 x 20 mm, I wanted discrete but are these legal?
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Re: Indicators and the law governing the size
« Reply #1 on: 24 October 2015, 08:50:06 am »
It all depends on if they can be seen or not!  Most cops won't stop you for small indicators. And your MOT dude would have to be a right RS to fail you for them!

There are rules in the construction and use regulations somewhere with regards to size, gap apart, lens configuration etc...
Get a mate to follow you with them fitted, and ask if he can clearly see them, that's usually the best way.
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Re: Indicators and the law governing the size
« Reply #2 on: 24 October 2015, 09:09:13 am »
Small indicators are up there with cheapie ebay brake levers! Surly the point of indictors is to let people know where you're going so they don't plough into you. Why would you want to make them smaller? If I was going to modify mine I'd make them bigger with flames coming out

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Re: Indicators and the law governing the size
« Reply #3 on: 24 October 2015, 09:20:47 am »
Small indicators are up there with cheapie ebay brake levers! Surly the point of indictors is to let people know where you're going so they don't plough into you. Why would you want to make them smaller? If I was going to modify mine I'd make them bigger with flames coming out


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Re: Indicators and the law governing the size
« Reply #4 on: 24 October 2015, 10:17:52 am »
Information Method of Inspection Reason for rejection
This inspection applies to: all machines except those which either have no front or rear position lamps or have such lamps permanently disconnected, painted over or masked that are:
 . only used during daylight hours, and
 . not used at times of seriously reduced visibility
 
 If this situation occurs the machine presenter should be issued with a VT32 (advisory notice) recording the above.
1. Operate the direction indicators on each side in turn and check the colour, flash rate and is not obscurred, ,Check that the illumination of the indicators is not affected by the operation of any other lamp. Each Lamp must emit an amber light, except vehicles first used before 1 September 1965 where both front indicators may be white and both rear indicators red. Note: At least 50%
 of light sources within a lamp must illuminate
 
 2. Operating the indicators see that the operation of each front indicator is readily visible from the riding position or that the 'tell tale' is operating correctly.
 
1. A direction indicator
 
 a. missing or obscured.
 
 b. does not show a light of the appropriate colour
 
 c. not working or not flashing at 60 to 120 flashes per minute, or which is affected by the operation of another lamp.
 
 2. A "tell tale" does not function or operate correctly. Note: if the indicators can be seen from the riding position there is no need for a "tell tail" to operate.
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Re: Indicators and the law governing the size
« Reply #5 on: 24 October 2015, 07:21:54 pm »
Small indicators are up there with cheapie ebay brake levers! Surly the point of indictors is to let people know where you're going so they don't plough into you. Why would you want to make them smaller? If I was going to modify mine I'd make them bigger with flames coming out
I didn't buy them because they were so small, admitedly I didn't want stock items but these were smaller than I thought. suppose it'll save me trying to hide larger ones
As for turning left and right, thats why we evolved with two arms
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Re: Indicators and the law governing the size
« Reply #6 on: 25 October 2015, 12:12:58 am »
These do the job


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Re: Indicators and the law governing the size
« Reply #7 on: 25 October 2015, 11:11:33 pm »
I have the Yamaha ones fitted to mine. Personally think it fits with the styling a bit better and IMHO I think the Rizoma indicators are ugly..

http://yamabits.co.uk/yamaha-led-flashers-3138.html

Being a genuine Yamaha part they are CE approved so I would have thought must be road legal.
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Re: Indicators and the law governing the size
« Reply #8 on: 26 October 2015, 07:37:25 am »
Not sure I like either the Rizoma or the Yamaha ones. I've always prefered stock or none, but then I've either had faired bikes or unfaired that didn't require them to be fitted.

Guess the upside of the ones I have is it will be easy to loose them in the clutter around the headstock area (going to mount them off brackets bolted to the two forward facing brackets that the fairing or the inners fastened to)
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Re: Indicators and the law governing the size
« Reply #9 on: 26 October 2015, 12:27:29 pm »
On my last FireBlade I fitted some Allycators from Motrax. Lovely things but with one little fault. The screws that hold on the lens are made from a different material to the Ally so after a year of all weather riding the screws seized in. Ample amounts of Coppaslip helped.
Other than that I loved the subtlety of them.
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Re: Indicators and the law governing the size
« Reply #10 on: 27 October 2015, 05:51:50 pm »
i just added some of these as the ones I have on already are useless in daylight .

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/281357019075?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&var=580389125936&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

very bright they are

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Re: Indicators and the law governing the size
« Reply #11 on: 27 October 2015, 10:04:58 pm »
Honda Civic (side) repeaters just happen to fill the holes left in the fairing after originals are removed. MUCH smoother - and anyway if I want the sheeple to know I'm turning, both arms AND shoulders perfectly serviceable...and they certainly pay FAR more heed to hand signals!
Obviously once the front was looking so much sweeter I had to make her rear end all sexy too, cut off everything off below the brake lights, cut another set of side repeaters in under the rear grab rails.
Just recently bought the combined rear stop/tail/indicator unit? I was worried (on their .com rather than .uk site) it'd be the American style flashing tail light? Not at all, nice ring of amber LED's still showing admirably through the smoked grey lenses.
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