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Bikes, Hints'n'Tips => FZS600 Fazer => Topic started by: Torque on 17 October 2013, 07:42:26 pm

Title: Failed MOT
Post by: Torque on 17 October 2013, 07:42:26 pm
Hi,
I've had a MOT today but, unfortunately I've failed.

Fail list:
1. Rear susp. bush excessive free play.
2. Brake lever inadequate reserve travel (propably air in hoses)
3. Not a full registration plate
4. Nearside rear footrest insecure

Ad 1.
The man said that bottom bearing it's too lose, but would be good to replace a kit.
He wrote down on the list:
Tri arm bush kit
Bottom shock and Rear tri arm bush/bearing

EDIT: I've also found such a kit:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Yamaha-FZS600-Fazer-98-03-Rear-Shock-Bearing-Kit-8841637-/150905568915?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts_13&hash=item2322ac3e93 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Yamaha-FZS600-Fazer-98-03-Rear-Shock-Bearing-Kit-8841637-/150905568915?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts_13&hash=item2322ac3e93)

He said that kit would be about 45 quids (not genuine), however he would charge me 90 quids repair including parts.
For me it seems to be not too bad, but just wanted to verify if it's reasonable price for that?
I've found also this topic: http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php?topic=336.0 (http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php?topic=336.0)
... and got mixed feeling if it will help.

If it's not reasonable price do you know where I can find set of all bearings in that place?
So I will just literally replace them when wheel is already removed.

Ad 2. I've ordered brake fluid so I will also replace it when I am already here.

Ad 3. Do you have idea where it's the best place to order new legal plate?

Ad 4. Ok so the problem is that rider left footrest it's turning.
It was not problem for me at all. I've had a feeling that it's adjusting to gear change lever.
I've dismounted that (2 hex bolts), but there is no screw at all to tighten that.
Right foot rest seems to be solid.

How do I repair that?

Thanks.
Title: Re: Failed MOT
Post by: Punkstig on 17 October 2013, 07:55:55 pm
Changing the bushes can be a pig of a job if you don't have workshop space and decent tools- for £90 might as well get him to do it!
To tighten the footrest remove the whole unit from the frame and there's a Allen bolt head on the other side which hopefully if you tighten will stop the footrest from turning!
And he should have offered to order a reg plate for you!
Title: Re: Failed MOT
Post by: fazersharp on 17 October 2013, 08:24:08 pm
The foot rest should fit into a round hole but with a flat side so if it is loose you should be able to turn it left and right and feel it stop after less that 1/4 turn. If it turns all the way around then the flat side on the ally hanger has rounded. You need to (as punk says) take off the hanger with the footrest and on the vback is a large allen bolt - tis that which needs to be very tight.
Title: Re: Failed MOT
Post by: Torque on 17 October 2013, 09:26:00 pm
That's correct. It was so dirty that I did not realized that very big hex key fitted. It's fixed ;)

Ad 1.
I am trying search parts to replace, however I've not found and bush kits for tri-arm.

Also I am not sure, where it goes:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Yamaha-FZS600-Fazer-98-03-Rear-Shock-Bearing-Kit-8841637-/150905568915?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts_13&hash=item2322ac3e93 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Yamaha-FZS600-Fazer-98-03-Rear-Shock-Bearing-Kit-8841637-/150905568915?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts_13&hash=item2322ac3e93)

and where this goes?
http://yambits.co.uk/fzs600s-fazer-swing-arm-relay-bearing-front-p-20699.html (http://yambits.co.uk/fzs600s-fazer-swing-arm-relay-bearing-front-p-20699.html)

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Suspension linkage components

1 Linkage rods
2 Linkage arm
3 Bearings
4 Grease seals
5 Spacer
6 Spacers
Title: Re: Failed MOT
Post by: Torque on 25 October 2013, 06:42:06 pm
Today I've left my bike for repairs, but man said that it won't be £90, but about £160, because he could not find aftermarket rear suspensions bushes kit, but Yamaha genuine.
This f**** bushes are staying expensive. Do you have idea where can I get kit?
 
Title: Re: Failed MOT
Post by: Fuzzy on 25 October 2013, 06:49:56 pm
Just buy a second hand linkage block with decent bearings off ebay. Much cheaper
Title: Re: Failed MOT
Post by: darrsi on 25 October 2013, 06:50:56 pm
Today I've left my bike for repairs, but man said that it won't be £90, but about £160, because he could not find aftermarket rear suspensions bushes kit, but Yamaha genuine.
This f**** bushes are staying expensive. Do you have idea where can I get kit?





http://www.yamahascooterspares.co.uk/genuineparts/9655/23/yamaha%20fzs600%20fazer/rear%20arm?uID=0 (http://www.yamahascooterspares.co.uk/genuineparts/9655/23/yamaha%20fzs600%20fazer/rear%20arm?uID=0)
Title: Re: Failed MOT
Post by: Torque on 25 October 2013, 08:28:52 pm
Just buy a second hand linkage block with decent bearings off ebay. Much cheaper


Good idea.
I am thinking which one to choose:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/39574-Yamaha-FZS600-Fazer-1999-Shock-Linkage-/281071980360?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts_13&hash=item4171320f48 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/39574-Yamaha-FZS600-Fazer-1999-Shock-Linkage-/281071980360?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts_13&hash=item4171320f48)

OR

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LOOK-GENUINE-YAMAHA-FZS600-FAZER-FZS-600-2002-REAR-SHOCK-LINKAGE-FREE-UK-POST-/111195106849?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts_13&hash=item19e3beae21 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LOOK-GENUINE-YAMAHA-FZS600-FAZER-FZS-600-2002-REAR-SHOCK-LINKAGE-FREE-UK-POST-/111195106849?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts_13&hash=item19e3beae21)

1st one comes with the additional bolts (which may be necessary if my are worn?).
2nd one it's from 12k miles bike (but not additional bolts).

What you think?


Quote
[url]http://www.yamahascooterspares.co.uk/genuineparts/9655/23/yamaha%20fzs600%20fazer/rear%20arm?uID=0[/url] ([url]http://www.yamahascooterspares.co.uk/genuineparts/9655/23/yamaha%20fzs600%20fazer/rear%20arm?uID=0[/url])

Great, thanks. If I order used arm and find that only few items needs to be replace it seems to be great deal.

Thanks guys, you both are awesome !
Title: Re: Failed MOT
Post by: midden on 25 October 2013, 11:19:37 pm
Today I've left my bike for repairs, but man said that it won't be £90, but about £160, because he could not find aftermarket rear suspensions bushes kit, but Yamaha genuine.
This f**** bushes are staying expensive. Do you have idea where can I get kit?



Could you not buy the towbar and get the other spares you need :)



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Title: Re: Failed MOT
Post by: midden on 25 October 2013, 11:20:24 pm
Halfords do number plates

Title: Re: Failed MOT
Post by: Fuzzy on 26 October 2013, 12:42:23 am
I wouldn't be too worried about the bolts as they are unlikely to be worn. The main thing is the condition of the bearings inside the linkage block, if in doubt ask the seller before buying to confirm they're good so you can return them if they are not.

Once you have a good linkage block, all you have to do is replace the current one, very easy job with the right tools.





Title: Re: Failed MOT
Post by: Geordi Sussex on 26 October 2013, 02:14:21 am
Just order a legal size plate off EBay
Title: Re: Failed MOT
Post by: red98 on 26 October 2013, 09:17:15 am
Today I've left my bike for repairs, but man said that it won't be £90, but about £160, because he could not find aftermarket rear suspensions bushes kit, but Yamaha genuine.
This f**** bushes are staying expensive. Do you have idea where can I get kit?



Could you not buy the towbar and get the other spares you need :)



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thanks midden  :) .....@ TORQUE......i have the part you need,already removed form the bike....cheaper than a breaker and an honest seller  :rolleyes ....make an offer if you want it.post is no problem.....cheers paul
Title: Re: Failed MOT
Post by: darrsi on 26 October 2013, 04:47:46 pm
Today I've left my bike for repairs, but man said that it won't be £90, but about £160, because he could not find aftermarket rear suspensions bushes kit, but Yamaha genuine.
This f**** bushes are staying expensive. Do you have idea where can I get kit?



Could you not buy the towbar and get the other spares you need :)




Is that the new Air Fazer?  :smokin



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Is that the new Air Fazer? :smokin
Title: Re: Failed MOT
Post by: Glenn on 29 October 2013, 04:08:44 pm
I had the same problem with my rear suspension linkage
Try these guys
 
http://www.fazerspares.com/items/126-1_2143-shock-absorber-bearing-pivot.htm (http://www.fazerspares.com/items/126-1_2143-shock-absorber-bearing-pivot.htm)
Title: Re: Failed MOT
Post by: Torque on 31 October 2013, 10:30:33 pm
Sorry guys, I had terrible cold last days.


I've ordered linkage for about 25 from eBay in very good condition and bought 0,5kg of moly grease from Halfords for 6 quids.
It took about 1 hour to detach old one and about one hour to fit new one. You don't need to take off the wheel, it can be done from the right side of motorcycle !.
Now It would take me like 10-20 minutes to detach and the same for fitting new one ;).


Also ordered plate on eBay, changed fluid and bleeded air, but I think that dust seals should be replaced in a few weeks months, because brake it's still soft.
[size=78%]... and yeah finaly I've passed MOT. [/size] :D




However FZS600 was running very well till MOT. Now after few rainy days, got major issue with ignition/carbs or sth like that, because it runs like 50cc moped and engine does not run smooth. I need to describe it with my poor english in separate topic (I will try search before).