new tracer 700

[johnakay]

what your opinion on these? mto7 same engine.
do they really get 65mpg?
I fancy getting one as it is the nearest thing to the Fazer

[noggythenog]

I havent looked into the differences between this & the MT07...the tracer only just started popping up on my media radar.....but my honest opinion at a quick glance is that how much different is it really.....not much it seems.....surely just buy the MT07 & get a decent fly screen for it?


It will be good because the MT07 is rated as good.


I dont think a low power twin can compete with an inline 4 such as the fazer either.......i have a low capacity twin & i love it & it astounds me how quickly i can pass a tractor in 2nd gear....instant shovel in the face grunt......but trying to pass a car at 60 is a bit more tricky & i think the 4's have the edge there.

[mr self destruct]

The differences between them are subtle but somehow it looks a lot nicer than the 09 Tracer.

[johnakay]

this the 900 there is a difference as far as looks go.





the 700 has more than power for me. going fast! those days are long gone.
I'm in no rush to get any where.if you need to go fast do it on a race track much safer. theres to many hard things on the roads these days.
to be honest its sad that every time I go for a ride I always see a bunch of flowers where a rider has lost his or her life. its not worth it.
yes I'm a slow rider and I have no need to wrap myself around the lamp post  or other.
I always ride two up just and my good lady and if I want to do a bit of spirited riding 80mph is good enough me.
I currently ride an NC700x dct and that is more than fast enough for me but the looks ...you either like it or you dont.
I'm not a great fan of its look but then I'm not looking at while riding it.lol
looking forward to seeing it in the flesh tracer700 that is.


some more piccy's


http://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/2016/april/gallery-yamaha-tracer-700/

[BBROWN1664]

I like  the look of both. Somehow though the 09 just beats the 07. Could just be the colour though.

[ghostbiker]

9 is much nicer look for me.

[Slaninar]

Took it for a test ride. It's OK. As far as Fazer's spiritual successor - I'd go to new (with a good looking headlight) Kawasaki Versys. Proven engine, versatile, comfy for longer riding, but still decent for quicker riding.

[johnakay]

I'm keeping well away from the versey.
I've ridden the old model and didn't like it.
bought a new ER6F I just could get away with it for some reason it didn't suit me at all.
as well as piss poor riding distance once I hit 140 miles I had to start looking for petrol station.
I want something that can go the distance. at least 200 miles per tankful.

[dublet]

Looks sweet and seems really good value. I'd definitely consider it if I was buying new.

[celticdog]

Yes. It looks like it's a solid commuter built to a price point that will sell well and get a bit of a following.    It's a real battle with the competition- Honda, Kawa & Suzy to see who comes up with the best bang for buck bike at the moment. I expect I'll pick one up 2nd hand
at some point in the future.

[mr self destruct]

this the 900 there is a difference as far as looks go.





the 700 has more than power for me. going fast! those days are long gone.
I'm in no rush to get any where.if you need to go fast do it on a race track much safer. theres to many hard things on the roads these days.
to be honest its sad that every time I go for a ride I always see a bunch of flowers where a rider has lost his or her life. its not worth it.
yes I'm a slow rider and I have no need to wrap myself around the lamp post  or other.
I always ride two up just and my good lady and if I want to do a bit of spirited riding 80mph is good enough me.
I currently ride an NC700x dct and that is more than fast enough for me but the looks ...you either like it or you dont.
I'm not a great fan of its look but then I'm not looking at while riding it.lol
looking forward to seeing it in the flesh tracer700 that is.


some more piccy's


http://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/2016/april/gallery-yamaha-tracer-700/

Yeah I didn't like it when I first saw it, the line from the downpipes, past the indicator and up to the headlight is too straight. Makes it look like part of the fairing has been sawn off if you know what I mean, plus the headlight itself looks too small.
On the 07 that line is broken up a bit and the headlight housing is more pronounced. Looks great!

[Val]

700 Tracer looks nice definitely the best looking MT IMO 

Having said that I really wish Yamaha to stop with this Transformer style designs. All this chunky lines look to me like DYI lego job seriously ugly 

Hayabusa was the ugliest bike for years. Not anymore look at the new Kawasaki H2 and MT10.

Why they don't do MT 10 with existing Fazer fairing and look 

[johnakay]

the Fazer 600 (03) is my favourite of all my bikes.should have kept it
so this new tracer 700 is the nearest I'm gonna get.
with most petrol station shut or gone I need a bike that is capable of doing 200 miles on a full tank with riding two up.
and this bike seem to fit the bill with having 17 ltrs which the old fazer had.
and more than fast enough for me.
if I do decide to go ahead and buy it next year I'll put a 1 or 2 tooth higher sprocket....
I did this to my old Fazer @ 70mph the rev's went lower by about 4 or 500 and an increase in mpg to.
also it didn't feel to revvy not for me anyway.
I rarely ride fast these days,got my wife on the back and too many hard things on the roads cars 'n' things not to mention bloody push bikers taking half the road up   also we tend to ride on roads where not many bikers go on and rarely see speed scamera's!!
these buggers are always on the bikers favourite rout...

[fazersharp]

the Fazer 600 (03) is my favourite of all my bikes.should have kept it
so this new tracer 700 is the nearest I'm gonna get.
with most petrol station shut or gone I need a bike that is capable of doing 200 miles on a full tank with riding two up.
and this bike seem to fit the bill with having 17 ltrs which the old fazer had.
and more than fast enough for me.
if I do decide to go ahead and buy it next year I'll put a 1 or 2 tooth higher sprocket....
I did this to my old Fazer @ 70mph the rev's went lower by about 4 or 500 and an increase in mpg to.
also it didn't feel to revvy not for me anyway.
I rarely ride fast these days,got my wife on the back and too many hard things on the roads cars 'n' things not to mention bloody push bikers taking half the road up   also we tend to ride on roads where not many bikers go on and rarely see speed scamera's!!
these buggers are always on the bikers favourite rout...

Mate you are giving bikers a bad name we are SUPPOSED to be outlaws - a little bit edgy - out there - that kind of thing.

Seriously though do you think the 7 is going the be up to two up long distance stuff, just by looking at the seats - let alone the power and I have sat on one and it felt like a push bike, maybe great for 1-up flicking through some bends- but 2-up ? 

[Dave48]

Wouldnt have thought the MT-07 would be the ideal 2-up touring bike. Although the power is adequate for sedate riding (75bhp) the size/position of seat & pegs is fine for solo use but a bit cramped with pillion. Owned one last year & occasionally took pillion short distance-more cramped than Fazer. Bit more room on the 09 Tracer.

[johnakay]

I ride an NC700x dct and that only got 52 bhp and I find that ok two up.
also I use to own a Suzuki T500 two stroke  45 bhp and that was ok.
so having a 70 plus is fine for me.
everybody has their own opinion and quite rightly so on what they consider fast.
days are long gone of me tear arsing down the road at blistering speeds
I dont want a wreath on the side of the road of me etc..
like I said theres way to many hard moving objects not to mention blind feckers coming out of the side road...

[pilninggas]

That 700 Tracer looks like a stonking bit of kit. The boggo MT07 gets great reviews, so in a touring package with 200+ mile range and crossplane fire-order, Yamaha must be on to something.

I'd seriously consider that in the future.

[BBROWN1664]

I ride an NC700x dct and that only got 52 bhp and I find that ok two up.

Many family cars that weigh 4-5 times what a bike weighs only have 100bhp and manage OK with 4 people and 44t trucks manage OK with 3-400bhp


its not HP that counts the most, it is the torque and the way that this is delivered.

[johnakay]

torque is 50 just the same as the tracer and it comes in full around 6,000 revs.


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[positron]

I was waiting for Tesla (or someone else) to make a decent yet affordable electric bike to be my first ever new bike.. but this Tracer 700 is very tempting.

[Frosties]

the Fazer 600 (03) is my favourite of all my bikes.should have kept it
so this new tracer 700 is the nearest I'm gonna get.
with most petrol station shut or gone I need a bike that is capable of doing 200 miles on a full tank with riding two up.
and this bike seem to fit the bill with having 17 ltrs which the old fazer had.
and more than fast enough for me.
if I do decide to go ahead and buy it next year I'll put a 1 or 2 tooth higher sprocket....
I did this to my old Fazer @ 70mph the rev's went lower by about 4 or 500 and an increase in mpg to.
also it didn't feel to revvy not for me anyway.
I rarely ride fast these days,got my wife on the back and too many hard things on the roads cars 'n' things not to mention bloody push bikers taking half the road up   also we tend to ride on roads where not many bikers go on and rarely see speed scamera's!!
these buggers are always on the bikers favourite rout...

Don't really rate the MT07 to be honest - I regularly dust one once inside London.


I rag the arse out of mine and regularly get 58mpg, run to 180 miles and fill with about 14.5 litres. Newer bikes seem to be getting smaller with the tanks so I'd go with another Foxeye. Are the published mpg figures as accurate as we are lead to believe - seriously doubt it.

[taylor]

never mind the mpg. I don't like that.