I believe the general rule of thumb is to filter at 10 to 15 mph faster than the traffic, slower still in poor conditions.
If its going 40 30 20 I dont filter as im also moving ok. if I do filter I go mega slow always looking out for the lane swapper or drifter or the foc'er sees you in their mirror and moves across to block your way. After all if the traffic isnt moving and im doing 10mph im still happy.
As an example answer this question:As a motorcyclist is it legal to overtake a car on a solid white line?
Quote from: msmudge on 26 November 2013, 03:38:13 pmAs an example answer this question:As a motorcyclist is it legal to overtake a car on a solid white line?What I was taught about filtering during my course was that it's ok apart from on solid whites and zig zags, and as long as you don't go to the front of the queue.
What I was taught about filtering during my course was that it's ok apart from on solid whites and zig zags, and as long as you don't go to the front of the queue.
You're correct, it's a way to disaster! At that speed, you've no time to react if a car decides to change Lane without looking (or even drifts in Lane and narrows a gap). Go with where you're comfortable, generally by the time traffic is up to 30mph max, I've stopped filtering and slotted in. UK car drivers just aren't aware enough, for the speeds you describe to be safe. France, on the other hand, especially around Paris, they are much more aware of bikes, are alert for them, and a lot of the French bikers will hurtle down the middle (I don't think you can call it filtering, at these speeds) at 90mph.I followed a few of them, but could only concentrate enough for a few minutes at a time - it's absolutely bonkers :-)
Quote from: mr self destruct on 26 November 2013, 03:45:45 pmWhat I was taught about filtering during my course was that it's ok apart from on solid whites and zig zags, and as long as you don't go to the front of the queue. In London it's best to sit at the front of the queue at lights and crossings, you are much better sighted for idiot pedestrians running accross junctions/crossings after the lights have changed. If you are sitting behind vans/lorries at the front of the queue you won't see much. Plus when the cars in front pull away you have to hang back whilst they jossle for lane space ahead, very often the berk on the inside will try to outdrag the berk on the outside and you know the rest -it compromise your 'progress'. Avoid such shennanigans by smartly accelerating away from the front, besides if you are at the front the cars nearly always wait for you to go first anyway. This is what most people do in London and if you commute there you'll do the same after a while, learn filtering by watching the bikers who've obviously been doing it for years, the idiots are easy to spot, ignore them. Be confident but not cocky and it gets less stressfull.
On those nice sunny days pull up next to the guy stationary in his ferrari/ porsche and ask him what his 0-60 is, then triumphantly yell 'not in this fuckin traffic it ain't' and ride off laughing manically!
Interesting that, because filtering is illegal in France!! There are even reports of police cars driving round the Paris Périphérique, slowing traffic down to nab filtering bikers. Les connards.
Quote from: ChristoT on 26 November 2013, 08:55:43 pmInteresting that, because filtering is illegal in France!! There are even reports of police cars driving round the Paris Périphérique, slowing traffic down to nab filtering bikers. Les connards.Sure, but each time I've been there on the bike (last time about 3 weeks ago) the French car drivers make a point of getting out of your way - Lane 3 will move left in Lane, Lane 2 will move right, leaving a good gap to fly through. Far more aware of bikes, expect you to be making progress, and assist in that! I guess les connards is the bastards (or similar)?? :-)
Ohgo on, give us a translation :-)
Lane 3 will move left in Lane, Lane 2 will move right, leaving a good gap to fly through.