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R6 front-end fitted with error-free standard speedo clocks
« on: 31 January 2015, 04:09:52 pm »
Huge thanks to Muddybuddy for his advice on this mod and to Robbus for bringing his mod to my attention

Another year, another suspension mod  :lol

Some of you may be aware of my previous efforts for improving the Fazer 600’s back-end suspension:
http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,8167.0.html
 
Also re-working the front-end with Cartridge Emulators:
 http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,8366.0.html

I had considered replacing the whole unsatisfactory front-end in June 2013 when I downsized back to the 600 but as I wanted to retain the standard speedometer unit without any TPS error messages, I was forced to go the Emulator route on the standard forks. But thanks to Muddybuddy’s findings, I've finally succeeded with a front-end transplant.

Cynics will say it doesn't look much different than standard...and that was actually my intention: a stealth mod. I felt that gold bling USD forks would not suit the retro-looking boxeye model. 

This mod was not cheap as I also had to use a differing 3.5’ front wheel (from R1/R6/XJR1300).  Total cost would have been around £400 if I’d not already had the front wheel left over from my previous Fazer 1000 R6 front-end swap :
http://fazer1000.yuku.com/reply/23677/Re-R6-forks-nonUSD-for-Gen1
Having said that, the only other cartridge forks that fit (Thundercat) also require additional parts, so that front-end conversion isn't cheap either ... assuming you can now find a set of T'cat forks!  By contrast, while sourcing parts for this swap on Ebay, there were around 18 pairs of 5EB / 5SL forks for sale in UK / Europe.

Differences to standard are: 43mm cartridge forks with separate compression and rebound adjusters. Heavier rate FZ-8 fork springs.  Thicker / stronger / deeper yokes and a larger diameter front wheel spindle for increased rigidity.  Wider 3.5inch front rim, which allows either a 120/70 or 120/60 tyre to fit without distorting its profile (standard 600 rim is three inches and effectively ‘pinches’ a 120/70 tyre out of shape).  Different Yokes (I think boring the original 41mm yokes out 2mm would be dangerous) and Risers, although again they're not too obvious. Basically, everything North of the headstock has been replaced, except the brake lines & calipers (and even they're off an XJR1300).

Enormous gratitude to Saint Muddybuddy for his speed sensor breakthrough.  Now we can pretty much fit any front-end to our auld Fazers  :D

Still to test in anger, even this new front-end still won’t cope with snow  :\



And yes, I know the mudguard is a different colour for the moment!










 
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Re: R6 front-end fitted with error-free standard speedo clocks
« Reply #1 on: 01 February 2015, 12:51:49 am »
Details details! Esp this speedo sensor thing!

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Re: R6 front-end fitted with error-free standard speedo clocks
« Reply #2 on: 01 February 2015, 09:14:27 am »
Is that with the forks from an R6 5eb? I was looking to do that but I thought the forks were about 2 inches shorter than the Fazer?
So more info please.  :)

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Re: R6 front-end fitted with error-free standard speedo clocks
« Reply #3 on: 01 February 2015, 12:08:46 pm »
Nebuchernezzer: Guess you have some searching homework  ;) , his thread is on the 600 forum but sadly no-one took much interest.

J_Dub:  They are indeed 5EB forks; 5SL could also be made to fit but sellers were looking too much for them when I was hunting down a pair.
You are half-right: if you look at the 1st picture of my old thread:
http://fazer1000.yuku.com/reply/23677/Re-R6-forks-nonUSD-for-Gen1
The bottom fork is the Fazer 1000, which is clearly longest by some 40mm.  HOWEVER, the 600's forks are shorter than the 1000 and are actually the same length as the top R6 fork (and indeed the blingy R1 fork in the middle).


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« Reply #4 on: 01 February 2015, 04:57:23 pm »
Thanks for that Kebab, I can't remember where I got my dimensions from, though they must be wrong. Your bike looks spot on from the pictures you posted. I'll have to do a bit more research. :book

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Re: R6 front-end fitted with error-free standard speedo clocks
« Reply #5 on: 01 February 2015, 08:00:11 pm »
Good solution to the speedo drive issue!


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Re: R6 front-end fitted with error-free standard speedo clocks
« Reply #6 on: 05 June 2015, 11:43:03 am »
Guys,


I'm looking for details on this mod, such as what yolks are used etc...


I cant find another thread in the 600 forum detailing this, can someone drop the link in here?


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Re: R6 front-end fitted with error-free standard speedo clocks
« Reply #7 on: 05 June 2015, 12:14:59 pm »
There should be a couple of threads on similar mods (mines a thundercat front end) in every one though I believe the forks donor bikes yolks are used with the stem replaced from the fazer.
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Re: R6 front-end fitted with error-free standard speedo clocks
« Reply #8 on: 05 June 2015, 06:50:56 pm »
nice  :)