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2 Stroke Question?
« on: 22 August 2014, 06:20:13 pm »
I'm looking at a 125 commuter for work now winter is approaching, and have dismissed 2 stroke bikes due to the fact that they need a rebuild every 5000 miles or so.
Is this correct?
After a off road style rather than Aprilla 125, as they are bigger.

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Re: 2 Stroke Question?
« Reply #1 on: 22 August 2014, 06:32:37 pm »
I'd dismiss them on the grounds that they sound horrible and smell worse, but they should be more reliable than that.

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Re: 2 Stroke Question?
« Reply #2 on: 22 August 2014, 06:42:43 pm »
They are reliable and cheap. The 125 four strokes are a lot slower too...
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Re: 2 Stroke Question?
« Reply #3 on: 22 August 2014, 07:20:51 pm »
I think the rebuild comes with boy racers not mature commuters  and there's nothing nicer than the eau de 2stroke :)
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Re: 2 Stroke Question?
« Reply #4 on: 22 August 2014, 07:30:20 pm »
I had a Yamaha RXS 100 a few years back which was 2 stroke. it had the seperate bottle for 2 stroke oil so you didnt need to pre-mix it as well, and was quicker than a few other 125's Ive owned.

I did 10k on it without a rebuild with no issues at all - until some fuckwit pulled out a side road and knocked me off it.

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Re: 2 Stroke Question?
« Reply #5 on: 22 August 2014, 08:20:46 pm »
They last longer than that, need to be looked after and dont let thd two stroke tank run dry.......they are not as good on fuel as a four stroke and you have to buy two strokd oil on top of fuel.........the smell of castrol 'R' two stroke oil more than makes up for it    ;)
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Re: 2 Stroke Question?
« Reply #6 on: 22 August 2014, 09:27:36 pm »
If i needed a commuter bike then i think i would consider one of those Burgman scooters,400 or 500 cc, fast and weather proofing as standard
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Re: 2 Stroke Question?
« Reply #7 on: 23 August 2014, 07:34:09 am »
+1 on the burgman. Nippy, comfy, and loadsa storage space.
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Re: 2 Stroke Question?
« Reply #8 on: 23 August 2014, 07:43:40 am »
pics of the x7 with micron spannies are required red!






did put one up a couple of weeks ago,i think in "christos anything else thread".....i need to get the carbs sorted and video the first start up in many moons  :)
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« Reply #9 on: 23 August 2014, 08:01:43 am »
I can see you getting the carbs sorted. But video......?! Never happen!  :lol

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Re: 2 Stroke Question?
« Reply #10 on: 23 August 2014, 09:30:46 am »
+1 on the burgman. Nippy, comfy, and loadsa storage space.





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I was too busy pissing myself laughing to try and catch him  :lol

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Re: 2 Stroke Question?
« Reply #11 on: 23 August 2014, 09:33:42 am »
I'd dismiss them on the grounds that they sound horrible and smell worse, but they should be more reliable than that.


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Re: 2 Stroke Question?
« Reply #12 on: 23 August 2014, 02:45:36 pm »
+1 on the burgman. Nippy, comfy, and loadsa storage space.


Ah yes you are assuming i have loads of money to spend, which unfortunately i don't, so they are out.
But thanks for the comments guys, opens more options.


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Re: 2 Stroke Question?
« Reply #13 on: 23 August 2014, 03:01:46 pm »
i've got a 180 gilera that gets used far more than the Fazer. does @60mpg, cruises at 80mph 2 up. i have just spent last week pulling the crankcases apart to fit a new waterpump/mains but apart from that it's just fuel, oil once a month and go!
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Re: 2 Stroke Question?
« Reply #14 on: 23 August 2014, 05:43:38 pm »
MZ 250, some big bar muffs plus a top box with some spares in. Can't be beat for cheap commuting  ;)

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Re: 2 Stroke Question?
« Reply #15 on: 23 August 2014, 07:38:52 pm »
 :lol :lol :lol....your probs right there mr crisp......I have a cunning plan though.. :rolleyes....i noticed I can video with my phone so will try that way   ;)
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Re: 2 Stroke Question?
« Reply #16 on: 23 August 2014, 10:08:55 pm »
My friend has an immaculate KMX 125 with 6000 miles from new, great bikes, he'll never sell it. Top money for non abused ones on ebay though.

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Re: 2 Stroke Question?
« Reply #17 on: 24 August 2014, 01:17:09 am »
The days of 2 strokes that need top end rebuilds every 5000 miles are even more than decades old. I got a Yamaha FS1E in 1976 and put 17k mikes on it without a "rebuild". I did pop the head and barrel off just before I sold it and replaced the piston rings - quick and simple job - but that was just because I was selling it, not because it really needed it.


I did 26k miles on my Kawasaki KH 250 between 1977 and 1979, without ever having removed the barrels.


My sons 50cc bike has do e about 6000 miles and seems barely run in and runs beautifully - even though it has been de restricted and buzzes along happily at between 10k and 12k RPM's, with total reliability.


Don't listen to old wives tales - buy a good-un and a 2 stroke will give you years of trouble free commuting.


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Re: 2 Stroke Question?
« Reply #18 on: 25 August 2014, 09:22:38 pm »
I had a Yamaha RXS 100 a few years back which was 2 stroke. it had the seperate bottle for 2 stroke oil so you didnt need to pre-mix it as well, and was quicker than a few other 125's Ive owned.


Funny you should mention that now, I used to have an RXS100 in the '90s and am now keeping an eye out for a nice one.  I remember an article in a magazine titled "The 100 that thinks it's a 125"


Just don't let the oil tank run dry and it'll go a lot more than 5k.


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Re: 2 Stroke Question?
« Reply #19 on: 25 August 2014, 09:27:51 pm »
I had a Yamaha RXS 100 a few years back which was 2 stroke. it had the seperate bottle for 2 stroke oil so you didnt need to pre-mix it as well, and was quicker than a few other 125's Ive owned.


Funny you should mention that now, I used to have an RXS100 in the '90s and am now keeping an eye out for a nice one.  I remember an article in a magazine titled "The 100 that thinks it's a 125"


Just don't let the oil tank run dry and it'll go a lot more than 5k.

I bought my thou from preston superbike in May, and they had a nice blue one in stock when i went to collect it (exact same year and colour as mine). If I had been closer to home I would have taken it there and then as a commuter. cracking bikes.