THE victim of a motorcycle theft has been charged with murder after ramming two motorcycle thieves from his motorcycle as they tried to escape.
I suspect he will be found guilty of manslaughter as he did not set out to kill.Tony Martin is an example of why the law of this land gets it wrong sometimes though.
Sounds like a tragic accident to me - just as if some lowlife grabbed my phone in the street and as I chased him he got ran over by a bus.
Be interesting to know if the surviving rider is charged with theft, riding without a helmet etc
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Quote from: agricola on 06 November 2020, 07:59:45 pmBe interesting to know if the surviving rider is charged with theft, riding without a helmet etcProbably he will be.(BTW Riding without a helmet is, IIRC, a £30 fixed penalty, no points)
Quote from: BBROWN1664 on 06 November 2020, 06:05:27 pmI suspect he will be found guilty of manslaughter as he did not set out to kill.Tony Martin is an example of why the law of this land gets it wrong sometimes though.Shooting someone who is facing you *could* be argued as self defence.Shooting someone in the back from a distance who is running away from you and trying to get through a window (and then lying about it) is murder.In any case, that's off topic for this discussion.
Or could be considered instant justice.
I hope the surviving one gets some decent prison time and the owner pleads guilty to manslaughter with a minimum punishment.
The fact the scumbags were not wearing helmets was their own fault IMHO.
Mihai Dinisoae, of Fenham, has been cleared of murdering Joshua Molloy and causing GBH with intent[...][The Jury] failed to reach a verdict on the alternative charge of manslaughter and were discharged. Dinisoae, 32, of Baldwin Avenue, Fenham, was further remanded in custody and the case will be mentioned again in two weeks.
the point everyone is missing, is that members of the jury will decide on his fate and chances are, if there's bikers on that jury then they'll be doing their utmost to get him offas someone who's done jury service, let me explain what you're up againstI had a paedo case, before we'd even sat down in the ante room, a grandmother on the jury said he's guilty.....I've got grandkids and we don't want him on the streets. As you can imagine.....the rest of us were shocked. We hadn't even gone into the courtroom to hear his name and she was adamant he was going down.the defence QC was ok but the prosecution was QC was shit, got names, streets mixed up etc....so much so that I thought he was deliberately trying to catch out the witness but it continued.....he was just incompetent2nd case was similar and to my surprise I thought they'd be on remand but the pair of them travelled in by train each day. Even as the judge took our guilty verdict, he addressed them in the dock and told them to report back to court after xmas for sentencing. I couldn't believe what I was witnessing.....I though they were being sent down on the spotanother mate had a young lad on the jury who said, I don't know much about life coz I'm young....I'll just go with the flowI often wonder how many innocent/guilty people are in gaol or let off coz of jury members leanings