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FZS600 Fazer / Re: What have you done to your FZS600 bike today
« on: 13 June 2019, 12:19:36 pm »
Got the bike back on the road following front caliper rebuild: new pads, cleaned up the pistons and seals and stuck them back in with plenty of red rubber grease.


I went with SBS sintered pads after reading a fairly lengthy discussion on this forum, just had a 20 mile ride and they feel pretty good. They feel less snatchy than the old pads and certainly give more confidence in stopping power. We'll see how they chew up my discs, they're already pretty scored anyway.



Bleeding the brakes went reasonably well, I did this a little while back when I installed braided lines and the process is much smoother for me now. So this year so far it has been new brake lines + pads front and back, full caliper rebuild front and back and newly upholstered seat.


Every day I've been adding my special potion of ATF/Acetone to the exhaust bolts. Today I did it after a 20 mile ride when they were nice and hot, another tip from on here. If the heavens hadn't opened as soon as I'd done it I was tempted to see if I could crack them open. If they do open, I'll order the new exhaust, if they snap in the head I'll just go and cry.  :'(

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: What aftermarket exhaust did you all get?
« on: 08 June 2019, 10:09:09 pm »
Great tips guys thanks.

I knew about the exhaust bolt problem. I’ve been applying some penetrating oil with a pipette every evening but I’m not hopeful they’re gonna come out cleanly. They look completely corroded.

So as I understand Delkevic supply with a full gasket set to fit their exhaust but not new bolts, I’ll need to order something like this: https://m.ebay.ie/itm/Yamaha-FZS600-Fazer-98-03-Stainless-Steel-Exhaust-Stud-Set-/332608748867?_mwBanner=1&_rdt=1

And I will also need some kind of exhaust fitting paste.

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FZS600 Fazer / What aftermarket exhaust did you all get?
« on: 07 June 2019, 12:14:33 am »
My downpipes are starting to look very crusty, in the quest to keep the old bird on the road and looking her best I'm gonna have to change them in the near future. Downpipes alone plus end can are +-£300, buying them seperately runs >£300


From what I see there's basically Black Widow and Delkevic giving the best value/range and it seems to me Delkevic are the better of the two. My riding buddy has a Delkevic on his bandit and it's pretty sweet.


I don't want a neighbour waking howl, I use my bike to commute in the summer from 6am and pissing them off is not my intention. I want a decent exhaust that let's the engine run well but let's be honest, in a tunnel if you wang the throttle back with the standard can it's a bit underwhelming.


I'm also a bit of a traditionalist when it comes to styling. No streetfazer here (sorry 74eldiablo). So with this in mind I've narrowed down the following 2 options, just putting it out there for your thoughts:


The practical option : 450mm so i guess this is the neighbour pleaser. This is also the same one my riding buddy has.
The wishlist : I like the look of it, perhaps a little stubby at 320mm but they don't have a longer one. Again, I'm not about announcing my presence to the whole neighbouhood.


So what do you all have? It's hard to make a decision without hearing how it will sound on the bike. There's also £50 between the practical and the wishlist.

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I wish this had been posted a month ago.


I did indeed get gang raped for £26, actually £34 after delivery to Europe  :'(


Have you put many miles on them? no leakage at all to make me feel better?

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Hi guys

As the title says. I didn’t remember to take photos of the others before sticking them back in the callipers, these are probably on the better side but not much between them all.

This is after cleaning with brake cleanr and a light sanding with 400 grit. There was a clearly visible line of dirt when I got the pistons out and all the corrosion is in that area, above the seals, so I don’t think there’s an issue but it’s always good to have all your opinions.

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Streetfazer
« on: 01 June 2019, 02:30:55 am »
I see you were having some problems with non OEM brake piston seals as well, how’d you get on with them in the end? Is this the front or rear brake seals?

For the rear I had to splash out on new OEM ones to finish the job. I’m gonna do the fronts this weekend and I’m hoping I can re-use the old ones if they’re not too far gone.

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Streetfazer
« on: 30 May 2019, 02:08:55 pm »
I always just upload them to imgur then link in the post. So far nobody has made any serious complaints.

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Pilot screw
« on: 28 May 2019, 06:46:33 pm »
Your warm up problems are very similar to mine. I think it might just be something about the fazers. When I got my bike 3 years ago I fitted new NGK caps, trimmed the leads, whipped the carbs off and gave a full clean, balanced carbs, new rubber intake manifolds and new plugs.

Every time I start the bike I feel the exhaust pipes and 3rd warms up much slower than the others. After a ride they’re all piping hot. No flat spots in the rev range and pulls away smoothly so it’s just something I’ve accepted.

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Streetfazer
« on: 25 May 2019, 03:46:10 pm »
I’m in the market for some second hand stainless. Do you know anywhere good to source them? Fleabay only seems to have new ones.

Edit: there’s actually some on the for sale section right now!

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Rear caliper dust seals from Wemoto are too wide
« on: 23 April 2019, 10:31:07 pm »
If you clean them once a year does that also mean new seals every year or can you also clean the seals up and re-use them?

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Rear caliper dust seals from Wemoto are too wide
« on: 23 April 2019, 10:09:07 pm »
seems the fzs 600 caliper is utter shite back from 1980's hence why people upgrade, brakes are usually good or bad on any bike but on the fazer the R1 stoppers at the front are tip top whilst the rears are well just parts bin specials as yamaha didnt see fit to have good rear brakes on a sports tourer


The blue dot FZS1000 upgrade is looking more and more attractive right now.

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Rear caliper dust seals from Wemoto are too wide
« on: 23 April 2019, 10:03:04 pm »
Thanks guys. only 6 quid for both pistons from Wemoto. OEM ones from Fowlers are 28  :'(


That's the price of peace of mind though. Hopefully I'll get my cash back from Wemoto.


Maybe I won't overhaul the front calipers just yet then, I'll have to eat rice for a month or so first. Looks to be about 160 for seals for both calipers.

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FZS600 Fazer / Rear caliper dust seals from Wemoto are too wide
« on: 23 April 2019, 09:33:08 pm »
Hi guys

My latest bit of maintenance has led me to overhaul the rear caliper. I've had nothing but success with Wemoto before so ordered some new seals and pads from there. After finally getting both pistons moving with compressed air, then pulling the old seals out of one side, the new brake fluid seal went in no problems but the dust seal just would not seat in the groove properly. It was almost like it was 20% too big in circumference although it was a perfect fit around the piston alone.

Eventually I held it up against the old dust seal and it is indeed noticeably thicker.

https://imgur.com/a/WOQBVKA

With this extra thickness it won't seat in the groove of the caliper and is effectively useless. I didn't realise Wemoto weren't OEM but I thought they would be better than this. The brake fluid seal seems to be the same size and circumference as the old one but how can I be sure it won't leak brake fluid all over the place when I need to stop.

I will ping an email off to Wemoto and see what they say.

Where do you all get your seals from?

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Bike won't start!!
« on: 03 April 2019, 11:19:11 pm »
I've had a loud fast buzzing noise from the battery area before and it was a knackered battery. Not enough volts to turn the starter. You could check this by jumping the bike from another bike or a car. Or borrow a mates battery and see if that gets it running.

As you say, it's a new battery, do you trust the supplier? What about another drain somewhere? got some aftermarket electrics on there that could be running it flat?

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But its not quite the oldest bike, a few years ago we had a thread about the oldest bike and my May registration was the oldest at the time.
Not from new as I am the 3rd owner but I have owned it 18 years and is my only bike - always with the caveat, as per my signature.



If that was somewhere near the oldest, then was the question ever asked of who has the highest mileage? Mine is at a paltry 50000km/31000 miles. Anyone gone past 200 000 miles?

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: s/s braided brake hoses
« on: 01 April 2019, 07:58:32 pm »
I went with cobras like daviee suggested, got front and rear though. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Yamaha-FZS600-Fazer-1998-2003-2-front-1-rear-Cobra-Braided-Brake-Hoses-/183650889280?nav=SEARCH

They came in some HEL packaging and I’m told they’re made to HEL standard under license in the UK. Top stuff but tbh any braided brake line will be a great improvement on standard lines and will last many years.

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FZS600 Fazer / Newly upholstered seat has arrived.
« on: 27 March 2019, 08:23:22 pm »
Sent the seat off to Poland a couple of weeks ago for a re-upholstery with Wijalis and got it back yesterday.

Piccies (imgur)

I quite like the standard look of the box eye fazer, has something of a retro feel, but I do want mine to be somewhat personal. After much deliberation I went for blue piping to match my new blue brake lines (rear one just waiting to be installed).

Costs:
£125 in the eBay shop for the reupholster, including return postage.
€23/£19.5 to send to Poland.
I contemplated having the gel cushion added but it was an extra £45 and I didn’t think it was worth it. The seat feels nice and firm as well as much grippier on the turns. I think it is a touch wider and higher as well which is probably a good thing for lanky old me.

All in all I recommend Wijalis, maybe a little expensive compared to others on mainland UK (I'm a Brit abroad) but the end product is top notch.

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Worn out battery...
« on: 15 March 2019, 10:23:01 pm »
My personal experience with batteries is that if you keep them topped up, by running the bike at least once a week, and park in a garage or somewhere it doesn’t freeze, then they will last much longer than the standard 2 to 3 years.

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: comfort seat
« on: 15 March 2019, 07:19:28 pm »


Here's a link to a thread a few years back about the same.


http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php?topic=17732.0



Damn, I wish I had seen that thread a bit sooner. I would've used one of those guys in the UK. Read a few reviews of Wijalis and by all acounts he does a good job but I could've spent more on the seat and less on shipping (he wanted 45 quid extra for gel insert). Let's just hope when I get my seat back it's the best ting I have even sat on.

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Worn out battery...
« on: 15 March 2019, 05:13:19 pm »
Is that the original battery?!?! That’s incredible.

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: comfort seat
« on: 15 March 2019, 05:12:10 pm »
My seat is currently at Wijalis in Poland for a reupholster. I’m expecting good results. Was a bit more than I expected though. The eBay listing led me to believe the item cost plus shipping included shipping there as well as back to me but it doesn’t. Was around £140 in the end.

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Best tank bag for the FZS 600
« on: 27 February 2019, 07:16:07 pm »
I’ve got some kind of older version of this one:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Oxford-Motorbike-Motorcycle-Outdoors-Magnetic/dp/B06VY6VM14/ref=mp_s_a_1_21?ie=UTF8&qid=1551294652&sr=8-21&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=magnetic+tank+bag

Does the job. Maybe a bit big for just your phone and wallet while you’re out for a ride but when I went on an extended trip it was big enough to store my pants and socks in as well as a load of other stuff.

Get a magnetic tank bag of the size you think you need. They’re all pretty similar really and don’t cost that much.

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Losing my mind! (replacing the throttle cable)
« on: 27 February 2019, 07:07:39 pm »
You will also have to disconnect them from the handlebar end as well to give yourself as much slack as possible. It’s a pig the first time you take the cables off but gets easier.

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: What have you done to your FZS600 bike today
« on: 21 February 2019, 06:59:09 pm »
Cheers for the tips Bandit.


I like Delboy's garage on youtube, top stuff.


Had a go at the front lines today. It goes pretty slowly with me as I like to take my time and read the service manual 20 times as I'm doing the job. Didn't have time to take the calipers to bits, I might do that after this season as I will naturally have to do the brake fluid again.


piccies


I kept the 2 into 1 bracket from the original lines on the bike as the bracket that attaches them to the bike also holds the speed sensor wire and the bracket is a part of the attachment.


Bleeding the lines didn't go very well. The manual says to leave it for a while to let the air bubbles all rise to the reservoir. The brakes do go on but I can pull the lever all the way back to the handlebar. Manual says to wait a while to let the bubbles rise to the reservoir. There's plenty of vids out there which I will watch for pointers but if anyone has some bike specific help it would be much appreciated.

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: What have you done to your FZS600 bike today
« on: 20 February 2019, 09:00:11 pm »
Gonna have a go at fitting the new braided brake lines tomorrow. Got some new DOT 4 and cobra lines. I don’t have a bleeding kit but I do have a small oil suction kit for changing oil on small engines via the dipstick hole and I reckon I can get it to work.

I’m gonna tear down and rebuild the callipers as well at the same time. Never done this before but I’m hoping it will be a fairly straightforward job. I’ve heard the bleed nipple is easy to snap off but any other tips from the seasoned foccers will be well received. I’ll do the front and if it goes well I’ll also do the rear.

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