For me any amount of touching the fairing or mirrors is a no-go, in the event of an off I am not giving the insurance any excuse not to pay.not sure about grips as its not my hands that get cold as-such but my fingers from my knuckles to the tips and as I dont really grip sort of all the way around my fingers dots really touch the grips much
I bought some of those a couple of weeks ago.I found the original bar ends fractionally too long so used the ones supplied. I couldn't get the bit the bar end screws into out of the bar, so had to saw the plastic ones down to suit... and find a screw that was shorter than the supplied one and longer than the OEM one.I took a file to the part of the plastic guard to whittle it down to fit close enough to the fixing on the lever assembly for the metal bracket to reach the redundant mirror mount.Luckily I found a screw of the right chunky dimensions to suit on the LHS, but the one on the right is a left-hand thread so I used a strip of rubber coiled up in the hole as a sort of Rawlplug and a 6mm bolt tightened up sufficiently.Despite my efforts the guards still collide with the fairing at full lock, though only just… the fairing flexes enough that it's not a hazard. They also touch the mirrors at full lock. So they'll have to come off at MOT time as they'd probably cause it to fail.Apart from that, and the fact it took me nearly 2 days to bodge onto the bike, I'm reasonably happy with them. At least my hands are warmer.
I have a bit of a problem with bad circulation in my fingers which is the majority of the problem for me.I do have very good gloves that last me about 1/2 hour when its really cold was just looking at guards to extend that comfortable ride time but for the amout of time I actually can get out in the winter im not sure heated would be worth it.I have even thought of a bearmat size sort of shield attached to the glove that covers the fingers, just to take away the wind blast, might get in the way when going for the leavers but it would be no longer that my fingers
Having never owned muffs, I don't know but those thoughts kind of put me off muffs.
I have a bit of a problem with bad circulation in my fingers which is the majority of the problem for me.
but I'd estimate mine give an extra 3ºC worth of help… less at high speed and more if just pootling around town. Darrsi's sound a fair bit more powerful.
IWith all the above being said I just sadly don't get on with them
I have these exact hand guards, fitted with the original bar ends, longer bolts and a spacer to stop them hitting the fairing. However, I haven't attached them with the inner mounts at all. I suppose I could bend up a bit of flat plate or buy a bit of Mexicano from Halfords, but the guards don't really move with just the bar end bolt holding them.
Quote from: mr self destruct on 24 January 2017, 11:12:39 amI have these exact hand guards, fitted with the original bar ends, longer bolts and a spacer to stop them hitting the fairing. However, I haven't attached them with the inner mounts at all. I suppose I could bend up a bit of flat plate or buy a bit of Mexicano from Halfords, but the guards don't really move with just the bar end bolt holding them.I think it was you who posted the link that I followed to those particular handguards.Had I looked a bit closer I'd have realised yours is a foxeye so it wasn't a good guide as to whether they're suitable for the earlier version. That said, I'm happy with them... a bit of a faff to adapt, but they're cheap and very effective.
Ok out today dry but cold and had a purposeful look and feel at the way I grip and its mainly with my palm and thumb and from my knuckles to my fingertips I don't really touch the grips. Baring in mind my shit circulation in that area and my actual hands don't get cold I still don't see how heated grips will help me. I don't even use my hands much what with clutch-less changing and 2 finger braking with braided lines, I have tried wiggling my fingers around to see if that helps.Perhaps I will just stick to short 1/2 - 1 hour blasts in the winter, after all I don't have to ride when its cold as I don't commute - but then again if I was communing I don't think my hands would get so cold as they would get used more with stop and starts and less wind blast.