as heated as this discussion gets, its good nobody actually falls out with anybody good and proper on this thread. at the end of the day we are all just blokes with our own opinions (and opinions as we all know are just like arseholes, we all got em) ...if we was all in the pub talking about it we'd all end just laughing it off and taking the piss out of each other. Nothing would be resolved lol. personally speaking, all this talk of the lies the leave camp told is immaterial, ive wanted to leave the eu for as long as I can remember. if that makes me imperialist, then I guess I am. Its a badge i'll wear with pride as much as resignation. we are what we are fellers..