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[VNA - BMW Wank]

Indeed.
Charges have been passed to the Procurator Fiscal.

[steve 10562cc]

Not right to comment further till after the trial.

[agricola]

You seem to be oblivious to political events in Scotland, perhaps you're focusing too hard on events here. Let me enlighten you. The First Minister of Scotland is facing a misconduct investigation for holding a series of meetings with a former First Minister of Scotland, who was recently under investigation himself, but has been successful in his judicial review of the allegations made against him. Why the First Minister felt the need to claim these meetings were unofficial, when  government officials were present, at here home, has yet to be revealed.
This one still has some mileage to go yet. Cant wait 
Oh, and do try and keep up

As I pointed out previously the judicial review brought by Mr Salmond was in respect of the government being in breach of it’s own procedures in their investigation of allegations made against him.  It was not as you said a review of the actual allegations made against him.

This one still has some mileage to go yet. Cant wait 

That was the only bit you got right agricola.
 
Former Scottish First Minister Alex Salmond arrested - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-46984747
 
Yes this one could run for a wee while.

Nope, I was absolutely bang on, it was a review of the allegations, not an inquiry of the allegations. You are just too keen to pick fault. Ihm suprized ur not corecting evriwons grama!

[dazza]

Not right to comment further till after the trial.

Ah shit....You had to go and say it, didn't you. 

[VNA - BMW Wank]

Nope, I was absolutely bang on, it was a review of the allegations, not an inquiry of the allegations.

Nope sorry you don't have a clue.

[steve 10562cc]

So she really is little jimmy cranky

[agricola]

Nope, I was absolutely bang on, it was a review of the allegations, not an inquiry of the allegations.

Nope sorry I don't have a clue.

Neither do I

[VNA - BMW Wank]

Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread   « Reply #1804 on: Today at 07:51:17 PM »

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  Quote<blockquote>Nope, I was absolutely bang on, it was a review of the allegations, not an inquiry of the allegations.</blockquote>

Nope sorry you don't have a clue.

 Agricola, Mr Salmond quit the SNP and brought a legal action against the government.  It was a judicial review into government procedure.  Mr Salmond alleged that the government did not correctly implement it’s own investigative procedures.  He won his case.
You stated,

a former First Minister of Scotland, who was recently under investigation himself, but has been successful in his judicial review of the allegations made against him.

There has been no judicial review into the allegations made against Mr Salmond.


   

[agricola]

Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread   « Reply #1804 on: Today at 07:51:17 PM »

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  Quote<blockquote>Nope, I was absolutely bang on, it was a review of the allegations, not an inquiry of the allegations.</blockquote>

Nope sorry you don't have a clue.

 Agricola, Mr Salmond quit the SNP and brought a legal action against the government.  It was a judicial review into government procedure.  Mr Salmond alleged that the government did not correctly implement it’s own investigative procedures.  He won his case.
You stated,

a former First Minister of Scotland, who was recently under investigation himself, but has been successful in his judicial review of the allegations made against him.

There has been no judicial review into the allegations made against Mr Salmond.


 

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[ogri48]

Not right to comment further till after the trial.

Ah shit....You had to go and say it, didn't you. 

lol now thats foccing funny...

[VNA - BMW Wank]

Mr Salmond initiated a judicial review which found that the Scottish Govt, as you correctly stated, cocked up.

He resinged from the SNP.   He then brought a judical review against the government.  His complaint was that they did not correctly follow their own proceedure.  He won.
The judical review did not consider the allegations against Mr Salmond and made no comment on them.  The allegations stand.
Today Mr Salmond was arrested by the Scottish police force on the basis of those allegations.  Mr Salmond has been charged.

[VNA - BMW Wank]

[mtread]

So now to add Airbus to the No Deal disaster club, with


Sony
Dyson
Honda
Toyota
and all the others.


Yet the 'stupid woman' is still not listening

[VNA - BMW Wank]

Yet the 'stupid woman' is still not listening

[darrsi]

Theresa May 


https://youtu.be/ZiQGA48uY-g

[YamFazFan]

Yet the 'stupid woman' is still not listening

She's not listening to an oportunistic marxist for sure. I don't blame her. The minute he starts dictating policy we've all had it.


Corbyn's just looking for any excuse to shirk and wriggle out of making a true commitment one way or the other outside of No Deal. He knows she won't take it off the agenda and in turn it gives him an excuse to refuse to talk.


Labour are trying to be Leave in the north and Remain in the south.


Everybody knows 'No Deal' isn't going to happen. It's been left on the agenda purely for negotiating reasons and to gee Parliament along towards accepting a deal.

[mtread]

If everybody knows that No Deal isn't going to happen, how can it be a negotiating position? Or are the Tory MPs who need to be won over that stupid?

[VNA - BMW Wank]

If everybody knows that No Deal isn't going to happen, how can it be a negotiating position?

Yeah I too would like to know how that makes sense. 

If it ain't gonna happen.  Take it off the table.  And buisiness can stop wasting millions of pounds everyday making NO DEAL preparations, and jobs will be so much safer.

[VNA - BMW Wank]

 Meanwhile here’s BREXIT hero Tim Martin being interviewed by Owen Jones.  Tim complains about EU laws, but guess what, just like the BREXIT foccers here, he can’t name one law he opposes.


Watch him squirm too when Owen asks about rates of pay at Weatherspoons.


 
 
 

[YamFazFan]

If everybody knows that No Deal isn't going to happen, how can it be a negotiating position? Or are the Tory MPs who need to be won over that stupid?

No Deal is the default position. As things stand, if nothing happens between now and 29th March we're out with No Deal.


We all know that there's less than a chance in a million of that happening, but it's NOT completely impossible. That's why.

[YamFazFan]

Tim complains about EU laws, but guess what, just like the BREXIT foccers here, he can’t name one law he opposes.

They do name them, but you're the self appointed judge and jury of whether those answers are acceptable and lo and behold, you dismiss them all.


Just because you refuse to accept the answers doesn't mean they're not valid.


I can refuse to accept that it will get dark this evening. Don't make it true tho

[VNA - BMW Wank]

They do name them, but you're the self appointed judge and jury of whether those answers are acceptable and lo and behold, you dismiss them all.

Sorry, but in the above video Tim Martin fails to name a single EU law that he objects to.
It was a direct question.

I can refuse to accept that it will get dark this evening. Don't make it true tho

Yup precisely what you are trying to do.  You are trying to argue black really is pure white.

[fazersharp]

Little lefty Owen - one of the 1% himself. If Tim would of actually known who the little snowflake lefty was he would of not let him in his pub. I wonder if Jones managed to drink all of that whole pint. Jones is one of the biggest wind up merchants around a day or so after the footage of Soubery being barracked in the street, little lefty Jones - not being one to let a self publicity opportunity go by he got himself down there and wound up a few of the people there and then proceeded to walk away at which point he started to film it like the pied piper with his little whistling tooty voice with them all following him. The next thing its up on his social media earning clicks.
So VNAs hero's are Alex Salmond and the one of the 1% - Little lefty Jones and Karl Marx
 

[YamFazFan]

just like the BREXIT foccers here, he can’t name one law he opposes.

If someone names a law they oppose, and you don't oppose that law, you declare that they haven't answered!. That's plain bonkers. You might disagree with their view point as is your right, but it's still an answer.


fazersharp dislikes DRL on cars. That's an answer to your question. Because you disagree you declare that it isn't an answer!.


How can ANYONE debate against reasoning like that?!

[fazersharp]

just like the BREXIT foccers here, he can’t name one law he opposes.

If someone names a law they oppose, and you don't oppose that law, you declare that they haven't answered!. That's plain bonkers. You might disagree with their view point as is your right, but it's still an answer.


fazersharp dislikes DRL on cars. That's an answer to your question. Because you disagree you declare that it isn't an answer!.


How can ANYONE debate against reasoning like that?!

VNA asked me to name ONE law I did not like and so gave the DRLs because IMO it negativity effects the safety and visibility of us bikers. VNA keeps deriding my view.
 VNA tell me why you think DRLs are a good thing for bikers.Also the favourite trick of VNA is to differentiate a law and an EU directive or legislation that VNA argues that was actually past by the UK government and not handed down by the EU when we actually had effectively no choice but to implement it.