Agreed - BUT you can vote out the politicians who made them in this country.
Who can blame Remain for being optimistic?. Not me. I'd be very surprised if we come out.
What's the difference with the EU?
You can't vote either in or out the unelected members of The European Commission who propose the legislation that the MEP's vote on.
MPs just sign stuff off.
MPs just sign stuff off.Nonsense.
You've been an MP?
Quote You can't vote either in or out the unelected members of The European Commission who propose the legislation that the MEP's vote on.You can't vote for the Civil Servants who propose, write and implement the UK legislation that UK members of Parliament vote on. Who do you think prepared the Withdrawal Bill? MPs just sign stuff off.
That's another thing, I have been watching the BBC doc about the foreign office and got the distinct that all the civil servants - permanent secretaries - ambassadors, all want to stay in the EU and therefore maintain the status quo keeping themselves in a cushy little job with nice pensions. All out of the direct gaze of the public.Politicians however need to have one eye on what the voters think
I never had any objection to free movement within the EU.
Its all those that get in from outside, the spongers, the thieves, the disease carriers, the terrorists, those that have abandoned their wives and children, that get here, are declared illegal and disappear to work in the black economy, then want to change our society to reflect their interests.
Civil Servants want continuity and stability
Sir Humphrey Appleby
Worst case scenario for me is that we have a re run of the brexit vote and we end up remaining. The EU more or less forced Ireland and Denmark to re-run elections as they didn't get the result they wanted.That's my and others peoples biggest criticism of the EU- it's fundamentally undemocratic. Forget the racist xenophobia and the economic downturn rhetoric it's all a smokescreen. The UK is a tolerant society and still will be after brexit. I'm not sure it's the same in other places, fascism is on the rise- we need to be on our guard. Also, there are plenty of countries in the EU who have economies that are tanking- PIGS- Portugal, Italy, Greece and Spain. They don't want us to leave in case others do similar. This cartel has had it's day imho.
We'll know plan B by Wednesday.
Plan? What plan....