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Do you still have the template?


Hey. Sadly not. I looked everywhere i might have kept it. Actually odd that i don't. I'm usually quite good at keeping things, but probably didn't feel it important and deleted it as i haven't had the fazer for almost 2 years.

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Hey Matey


Did you ever come right with your speedo wiring issues as Im also looking at the same problem?


thanks

Sorry mate, never did go for the Koso. Don't even have the Fazer any more (VFR 800 for the last year and change).

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Fitting Koso DB01r to FZS600 5DM1? Done it? Issues?
« on: 02 August 2015, 12:45:02 pm »
Glad to hear you got it up and running.

Far as i'm aware, the potential running issue is down to one wire not returning a signal to the ECU, but only in some cases, it seems (MAY be the ground (black 10))

I've still got this diagram for the wiring i made after consulting the Fazer workshop manual, a LOT of googling and also the Koso manuals. May be of some use to either yourself, or anyone else who lands here after searching on google.



Other than that; I intended to make the change reversible by adding connectors or a wiring block between the loom and the Koso wiring. Never did do the mod, but at least some of the ground-work may be useful to others.

...Though i'm thinking of doing similar to my VFR at some point ;)

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General / Re: No long a Fazer owner!
« on: 19 July 2015, 10:30:29 pm »
you should love the vfr , I had the last 750 model for 11 years, such a solid bike

Loving it already. Just really considering some (expensive) Helibars to improve comfort on the wrists and back.

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General / Re: No long a Fazer owner!
« on: 19 July 2015, 08:08:05 pm »
...Though i've only had the VFR for a few days.

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General / Re: No long a Fazer owner!
« on: 19 July 2015, 08:07:07 pm »
I wondered where you had got too
How much did you get for your FZS and with who dealer

I mostly stopped posting because i stopped having issues and i'm not big into forums.

As for pricing on the FZS; Via work (an independent bike shop in Leicester) so it was me trading my bike to work for a bike purchased from work for less than showroom cost (though a little above the purchase price) - As for the actual price, i can't really say as it hasn't been sold yet. It goes for whatever it goes for, and that comes off the price of the VFR

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General / No long a Fazer owner!
« on: 19 July 2015, 06:08:58 pm »
Had a great offer on a 2000 VFR800fi which i took. Traded my FZS600 in against it.
I imagine i'll be back on a Fazer in the future, when i can afford an FZ1.

For now; The VFR is a LOT of fun. Power is all down low/mid where i can actually use it, and the V4 rumble makes a nice change. Sporty position is taking some getting used-to, but i'm sure my back will sort itself out after a couple of weeks daily riding.

The only annoying thing was that; In fixing/cleaning the FZS for trade-in/sale, it looks FAR better than it ever has. Dammit.

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Pictures: https://imgur.com/a/LDFkz#2

  • FZS600 5DM (first run Fazer)
  • 1998 / S-Reg
  • 46000+ miles
  • Grey and black
  • Purchased as Cat-C (cosmetic damage) and restored
  • Collect from central Leicester or delivery at cost anywhere in UK mainland.
  • Viewing available from 9am-8pm Monday to Saturday, 12pm-6pm Sundays.
  • 2 spare keys
  • Full MOT history
  • In road legal, ride-away condition.
  • Priced according to condition and work needed but willing to hear sensible offers.
Looking to change bikes, have a good offer on a nice VFR800 i don't want to miss, so looking to sell quick. Selling cheap because of VFR offer and it needs a little work which, if i do, will put the price up by £100), so offering here first. Work listed below and shown in pictures. Sale may be cancelled if VFR offer is withdrawn or my insurance company decide to shaft me for changing bike mid-contract.

  • Mechanically and electrically sound
  • New Hagon rear shock late June 2015
  • Well cared for bike, and in very good condition for a 17 year old bike which has been used daily.
  • Plenty of life left in both tyres
  • Renthal bars & 2 inch risers for better comfort
  • Custom paint (and fully registered with the DVLA)
  • Recent MOT (Early June 2015)
  • Category C (cosmetic damage only) - hence the lack of front fairing.
  • Thousands of miles left in heavy-duty DID X-Ring chain and sprockets
  • Oxford heated grips
  • Braided hoses to front brake
  • New front brake pads as of late June 2015
  • New front wheel bearing as of late June 2015
  • Delkevic stainless steel exhaust pipes
  • Loud dual-tone horn
Notes:
  • Small scuff to rear panel.
  • Comes with replacement fuel tank
  • Comes with front wiring loom
  • Comes with additional headlight and mounting brackets
  • Comes with spray-gun paints (grey and black)
  • Sold as seen, viewing recommended.
  • Will be cleaned before sale
  • If viewed early in the day, engine may be warm from use, as would be the case in the early evening. But it starts every day as i use it all the time as my only transport.
Let's talk about the work needed:
Fuel tank either needs fixing and the paint touching up, or the replacement tank putting on (after welding and paint)
Headlights need putting back to twin, and front wiring loom needs fitting

The fueltank sprang a leak a week or so ago due to aged and blocked breather pipes (now replaced) so the tank has some binary putty over the leaky area which has stopped it leaking.

Again; This is work i intend to do, but will put the price up by £100.

Pictures: https://imgur.com/a/LDFkz#2

PM me on here if interested to arrange viewing, questions as a reply to topic, please.

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: FZS600 bits clear out
« on: 05 July 2015, 08:39:48 pm »
I'm after:

Headlight frame, headlight, fairing, infills and screen for a 5DM

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For Sale & Wanted / [WANTED] Fuel tank - FZS600 boxeye or foxeye
« on: 01 July 2015, 07:21:58 pm »
Mine sprung a leak today, so time to replace it.

I'd prefer black or silver,  but i'll probably paint it anyway.

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Hi,
Can I ask what exhaust that is you have on there? 

It's the standard can, wrapped in vinyl.

I'd like to get a Delkevic replacement at some point.

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A damp rag is easy for me to say in fairness because I dont ride in the wet and so it dont get that dirty

Also true.
I have little choice but to ride all year round. Only mode of transport etc...

I plan to buy a different bike next year, but also keep the Fazer as a winter bike. For the engine size; It's too good to let go. Especially since i paid so little for it and that it's so capable.

I don't plan to do a huge amount to it between now and then; Just sort out anything which needs it, get the fairing back on to sort out wind noise a bit, probably stick some Pilot Road 4s on it as i'll be commuting in all weather, and more grip and water-dispersal is always welcome.

Might even get some luggage for it.

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Just a damp rag in future

Indeed.

I usually just use some spray and a dish brush (for the worst of it, and not on bodywork) or a rag.
As i mentioned above: Easy to get carried away and/or careless with your own bike, i guess.

Nice to have it clean again, though. When i have a filthy bike, all i can think about it getting rid of it for something nicer. Now that it's clean, i can appreciate it again. Now looking forward to getting the nose fairing and contents on, sprayed to match, then getting some side fairing to seal the deal.

Also had to send my datatool alarm back as it was eating batteries, so this was a good opportunity to dig around inside the rear fairing.

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Any updates?


Yes.

Just rode it home.

Started first time today. No idea what was wrong, but it was likely something which wasn't supposed to be wet.
At least it runs. At least it's clean.

And a gratuitous photo to celebrate:

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  • Bypassed stand switches: Not at the switch, but the relay was bridged to activate the starter directly. Does that count?
  • Tried starting the bike with stands up/down clutch in/out and various combinations.
  • Kill switch properly set, tried toggled just in case.
  • Engine indeed in neutral, physically checked, put in to gear, rolled to confirm gear, back into neutral to confirm etc.
  • Attempted bump starts (no joy)
  • Attempted jump starts (no joy)
  • "You press the starter button and the oil light and fuel low lights come on, but engine does not turn over" this is the case - The starter does not activate when pressing the bar mounted control.
  • Condition plugs checked (also changed less than 1000 miles ago), good condition, do not need cleaning. Checked for spark against engine. No spark.
  • Checked for spark with a new plug. No spark.
Will report back tomorrow if failed/fixed etc so that there can be proper closure/continuation of the thread and for the benefit of search results.

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all lights are normal they go off once its started.


by check do you mean you took them out and replaced with a spare?
they can be broken even if you cant see it.



if still no spark it may need time to dry out hairdryer the wires...


check the coils with a voltmeter?
if no spark then check the wires going to coil for electric, if no electric then coils dead if no power check back further untill you reach the battery.


unplug the sidestand connector and bridge it just incase.


id place bets on let it dry out and it should be fine.

The fuses were checked with a meter and visually checked. All fine.
The ones in the main box and the one to the left (main, i think?) were the ones checked.

I imagine if a drying out doesn't fix it -which would be nice- i'll know why -or at least more- tomorrow.

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no, im led ro believe that the box eye and the fox eye are different brackets buddy.............. mine are the earlier box eye although the very last model.......... but still not the slanty eyed................... fox eye  :lol

Well, no biggie. Can't seem to find ANY foxeye headlights.

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Are the brackets cross-compatible with the foxeye fairing and lights?

Not that i have those either, but just attempting to keep my options open.

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got a good screen and the mirror mounts too...............

Just the screen, or the fairing/nose cone, too?

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Still in need.

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ive jetwashed all my bikes including my fazer with no issues :S


try the wires behind the left panel with the key hole for seat release, they're the main ones for the sparkings!

Indeed we did check. Nothing apparent.
Checked all connectors there.

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Current research suggests at least part of my problem may be due to a potential issue with the connection between the main and starter relays (water/wire damage/connector damage or dirt etc).

Still unsure why the plugs aren't sparking.

I'm sure i'll be told why tomorrow, then duly and rightly mocked for power-washing the engine.

There are plus and minus points to having worked at the garage at which you get your bike fixed  :rolleyes

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Agreed.

I have little to no future fear of blasting the crap out of the swingarm etc, but the rest will be a nylon scrubbing brush and cleaning products/chemicals where needed, elbow grease, and then low-pressure (tap and hose) rinsing/wiping.

I could have done it without, and i could have just done the rear lower quarter (swingarm, shock area, wheel arch) with the jetwash. I think i only got carried away/careless because it was my own bike i was cleaning. When i occasionally do valeting work, i'm much more careful, methodical etc..

But hey. I'll find out what the problem is tomorrow if it isn't just a matter of drying out, which it'll do in the shop's garage tonight. Google didn't throw up any results either, but at least i have a very clean bike with freshly touched-up paint.

Not that it'll stay clean and nice for long in this weather...

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Resolved: Do not power wash your bike. Something was wet. Dried over night. Started first time this afternoon after spending some quality time drying out in a warm garage.

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Sure i submitted a post here... Anyway, let's try again...

Short version: Everything seems to work, but no spark in plugs.

Bike wont start (1998 5DM). I get a fuel and oil warning light when i hit the starter button.
I did a little jet washing earlier to get the winter goop off of it, spent some hours cleaning and painting etc. Looks great, goes nowhere.
Didn't go nuts with the water: No more than horizontal to the engine, all seems dry under the tank. Had to blast under the rear arch to get the caked gunk out, blasted around the swingarm etc.

Checks made so far:
  • In neutral
  • Kickstand connectors connected
  • Checked connector bundle under tank - all fine and dry
  • Checked battery - Good, dry
  • Checked fuses - Good, dry
  • Kill switch disengaged
  • Fuel in tank
  • Oil in engine (very recently changed)
So far, all that is certain is that the plugs aren't sparking. Even with a fresh plug. No spark.
Maybe it'll dry out whatever i've probably gotten wet overnight. Maybe i got a bit of water into the electronics under the rear fairing somehow (didn't have time to check there, but under the seat is dry etc)

Here's a quick mockup:


Help appreciated.
Probably getting look at professionally tomorrow, but would be nice to go in armed with likely causes which would drastically shorten time on bench.

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I'm still pretty sure a FZS1000 would be a good option in the mid-term, but if finding bits for the FZS600 is any indication; I'm really going to be looking at bikes less than 10 years old maybe this time next year or the year after when i can have a bit of cash saved, and some time in the new job so i can qualify for finance.

In the mean time, i'm still trying to find the bits i need to get some wind protection at prices which are less of a joke.

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