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Title: "ONLY" 45K!!
Post by: bradders086 on 05 September 2012, 01:41:50 pm
Ive got a 2001 FZS600 and its been around the block more than a few times, this winter i intend to strip and recondition most of the engine. can i reset the clock??
Title: Re: "ONLY" 45K!!
Post by: Lawrence on 05 September 2012, 01:49:42 pm
I hope not  :eek   Bear in mind it's (iirc) illegal to sell it when it's been clocked unless the buyer is aware of it.
Title: Re: "ONLY" 45K!!
Post by: bradders086 on 05 September 2012, 01:57:16 pm
im glad i found that out beforehand. i guess i'll just keep clocking the miles up
Title: Re: "ONLY" 45K!!
Post by: GringoRojo on 05 September 2012, 02:58:42 pm
45k on a 2001? barely run in.
Title: Re: "ONLY" 45K!!
Post by: Gromit on 05 September 2012, 08:52:58 pm
Could just buy a second hand clock with fewer miles on.
Title: Re: "ONLY" 45K!!
Post by: richfzs on 05 September 2012, 08:55:09 pm
which is just as illegal as "clocking" it - you are mis-presenting the mileage the machine has covered. Unless you say the clocks have been switched of course, which makes the exercise pointless
Title: Re: "ONLY" 45K!!
Post by: red98 on 05 September 2012, 08:57:55 pm
just keep riding it ;) .....another 55,000 miles and it will be new again  :rollin :rollin :rollin
Title: Re: "ONLY" 45K!!
Post by: His Dudeness on 05 September 2012, 09:13:42 pm
you could install a time machine and go back to 2001
Title: Re: "ONLY" 45K!!
Post by: richfzs on 05 September 2012, 09:15:55 pm
as others have said, a bit of tlc, and keep riding and enjoy it.

Ride more, worry less.
Title: Re: "ONLY" 45K!!
Post by: AdieR on 06 September 2012, 01:04:09 am
Nope - resetting the clock is illegal.

Bear in mind, the mileage will be noted on MoTs anyway - therefore, if you're bikes mileage is 32K, and an old MOT says 35K, it'll get noticed sooner or later.
Title: Re: "ONLY" 45K!!
Post by: Fazerider on 06 September 2012, 09:11:44 am
Is there something amiss, or are you planning on reconditioning the engine purely because it's reached 45,000 miles?
45k is high mileage, but only by comparison... the average bike owner keeps it as a toy and does a couple of thousand miles a year. The engine should last at least twice that before it needs anything major done.
Title: Re: "ONLY" 45K!!
Post by: Lawrence on 06 September 2012, 09:25:21 am
Just press the Select button and look at the clock instead  :thumbup
Title: Re: "ONLY" 45K!!
Post by: darrsi on 06 September 2012, 10:19:04 am
Asking that on here is a bit like asking a policeman how to break into a house!  :rollin :rollin :rollin
Title: Re: "ONLY" 45K!!
Post by: bradders086 on 06 September 2012, 01:06:52 pm
Theres nothing wrong with it, i wanted a winter project and being a newbie to this kinda thing assumed (incorrectly) that if you recondition/replace bits you may be able to do something with the mileage........now i think of it what a knobish question!!
Title: Re: "ONLY" 45K!!
Post by: darrsi on 06 September 2012, 01:17:18 pm
The way you have to think of it is would you be happy paying top dollar for a 5000 mile bike, then finding out it's done 50,000 miles?  :rolleyes
Replacing a few bits and bobs doesn't mean the rest of the bike hasn't been through all weathers, have siezed bolts, and have general wear and tear, etc......
Title: Re: "ONLY" 45K!!
Post by: Strifae on 06 September 2012, 01:21:53 pm
Mine had done 55k miles when I swapped it for a Gen2 FZ1 - I do actually regret it to an extend (not getting the FZ1 as its AMAZING) but I should have kept my FZS600 - it felt absolutely fine even with the high mileage - clutch was on its way out but everything else was bullet proof - I wouldn't have been surprised if it had done another 50k
 
If i knew who had bought it i would try and get it back again!
Title: Re: "ONLY" 45K!!
Post by: Fazerider on 06 September 2012, 09:01:18 pm
Theres nothing wrong with it, i wanted a winter project...
OK. Well, unless you want to explore the bike's innards just for interest's sake (I've a friend who once took the gearbox out of his Citroen Xantia, dismantled it and put everything back together over the course of a 3-day weekend... purely for the pleasure of learning!), I'd leave the engine alone.
A possible exception is a check of the valve clearances, do you know when they were done? It's not something I can be bothered with these days because, in my experience, the valve seats and cam followers always seem to wear at near identical rates so the clearances stay unchanged, but it might be worth it for peace of mind.
I see you already have plans to clean up the brakes.
Other parts might benefit from dismantling and regreasing such as steering head bearings, swingarm and suspension bearings. Front forks might like an oil change, and a change of dust seals too. Then again, if the dealer can tell you these things have been done recently, I'd just leave the bike covered (maybe with the battery indoors and charged occasionally) and seize the opportunity to ride it every time the weather is fine... it's rare a month goes by without a few good days even in the depths of winter. :)
Title: Re: "ONLY" 45K!!
Post by: bradders086 on 07 September 2012, 12:46:40 pm
Theres nothing wrong with it, i wanted a winter project...
OK. Well, unless you want to explore the bike's innards just for interest's sake (I've a friend who once took the gearbox out of his Citroen Xantia, dismantled it and put everything back together over the course of a 3-day weekend... purely for the pleasure of learning!), I'd leave the engine alone.
A possible exception is a check of the valve clearances, do you know when they were done? It's not something I can be bothered with these days because, in my experience, the valve seats and cam followers always seem to wear at near identical rates so the clearances stay unchanged, but it might be worth it for peace of mind.
I see you already have plans to clean up the brakes.
Other parts might benefit from dismantling and regreasing such as steering head bearings, swingarm and suspension bearings. Front forks might like an oil change, and a change of dust seals too. Then again, if the dealer can tell you these things have been done recently, I'd just leave the bike covered (maybe with the battery indoors and charged occasionally) and seize the opportunity to ride it every time the weather is fine... it's rare a month goes by without a few good days even in the depths of winter. :)

Thanks i might just stick to the basics
Title: Re: "ONLY" 45K!!
Post by: Revilo18 on 07 September 2012, 03:28:04 pm
Even in the depths of winter! As long as there's no ice on the side roads. Buy a nice set of gloves, a neck warmer and some thick socks! Fazers love the cold moist air and there's nothing like those crisp clear mornings. Also sunglasses for the low slung sun.
Title: Re: "ONLY" 45K!!
Post by: Garfy on 07 September 2012, 07:55:23 pm
There is a service called (I think how many miles) that I used previuosly when my clocks went, I replaced them with a second hand set and had the mileage altered to the correct mileage on the bike. As somebody said its not the done thing to misrepresent milage but it can be done.
Title: Re: "ONLY" 45K!!
Post by: Bracechenko on 08 September 2012, 08:04:17 am
Theres nothing wrong with it, i wanted a winter project and being a newbie to this kinda thing assumed (incorrectly) that if you recondition/replace bits you may be able to do something with the mileage........now i think of it what a knobish question!!

Nothing like a bit of honesty lol :thumbup
Title: Re: "ONLY" 45K!!
Post by: bikerboys on 08 September 2012, 09:56:11 am
high mileage :rollin got the bike with 67k on the clock had it for 9 months and now  on 76k  :lol  if there nothing wrong with the bike then do not fix it mine runs fine give it a tart up with some paint if it need s to be done and get shut of any rust.

 I was in two minds to change for a lower mileage bike but the mechanic I take it too said wots the point is there any thing wrong  with the bike now temping fate saying this  :lol but its mechanic soundand dose not look like a shed after I gave it a tart up  I have seen bike with 21k on the clock with a hole lot of problems and even fzs600 with 24k and 36k on the clock and they need engine work doing
Title: Re: "ONLY" 45K!!
Post by: unfazed on 08 September 2012, 10:52:22 pm
You would be wasting your cash because there would be nothing to recondition, except maybe replace the cam chain.
If its running ok then leave the engine intact.
Give a major service which should include the following:
Check the tappats, (vital) change the fuel, air and oil filters and change the oil, coolant and brake fluid. 
I have seen these engines run to over 100000 miles, mine has just turned 72000 miles.