Hid kit 35w H4 high/low beam I've got a set but form Hids direct they do slim ballasts and the correct high/low bulbs and 6k looks awesome, also the latest kits Hids direct do come with the cap over the bulb to prevent dazzling oncoming traffic.
...Trouble is when fitting HID bulbs to a "reflector" type headlight unit like the one in the fazer is the all the side scatter, which will dazzle other traffic and why it wont pass an MOT. ...
I am sorry, but that is BS. That fact that it gets repeated a lot does not make it any less BS. The reflector will focus the light where it is supposed to go, it will align it (if the source is in the correct location). The reflector does not know (or care) how the light was generated, so it makes no difference to the alignment whether the source is tungsten, argon, halogen, HID, LED, Xenon or carbide.
I fitted Phillips extreme H4's to my Gen1 Fazer thou. Same wattage, a more focused beam and double the brightness of standard halogens. I'm happy with the headlamps on the Fazer.
...Why then are they illegal? ...Have you ever fitted a HID kit..? how exactly have you been able to 'adjust' the position of the bulb. Also the incidental light off a HID bulb is that much brighter and its this that is exaggerated by the reflector because its not designed for it.
Most modern kits (including the ones I have fitted to bikes and cars) use bulbs with the same light source placement as the units they are replacing. But also makes it clear that this is their 'opinion', it is up to the courts to decide on a case by case basis if an offence has occured.
Quote from: PaulSmith on 24 August 2012, 12:55:58 pmI am sorry, but that is BS. That fact that it gets repeated a lot does not make it any less BS. The reflector will focus the light where it is supposed to go, it will align it (if the source is in the correct location). The reflector does not know (or care) how the light was generated, so it makes no difference to the alignment whether the source is tungsten, argon, halogen, HID, LED, Xenon or carbide...? I'll grant you there is no reason why a reflector based headlamp unit can't be designed for HID use, but have you ever seen any..?Have you ever fitted a HID kit..? how exactly have you been able to 'adjust' the position of the bulb. Also the incidental light off a HID bulb is that much brighter and its this that is exaggerated by the reflector because its not designed for it.
not all hid bulbs are on a projector type lens,the last model honda civic had hid bulbs with reflector lenses
the latest kits have a build cover built into the bulb unit and prevents the scatter and stops unwanted flashing from on coming vehicles.
However, H4 bulbs might cause a problemI believe that one of the new MOT failures being introduced is that low beam must stay on when high beam is selectedother options for H4 bulbs include stuff like this
...This whole thread has been about H4 hi/lo.........The only other options I know of are ...
Quote from: VNA on 25 August 2012, 06:58:38 pmI fitted Phillips extreme H4's to my Gen1 Fazer thou. Same wattage, a more focused beam and double the brightness of standard halogens. I'm happy with the headlamps on the Fazer. Had the Exreme H4's on my VFR$ too, a huge noticable difference over the standard bulbs.. Ill be buying them again for the fazer I think Budgie
Consider using one for low beam only and the other for high beam only. Then you no longer have any concerns about light source location, latency or transition times etc.
If you are even thinking about HID, then a certain amount of re-wiring is required, mandatory. There is no reason tough why you can't have a HID main beam, and a halogen High beam. With the HID wired to be permenantly on (when the engine is running), the flash button and high beam switch would control the high beam bulb only.