headlights.... leds,halogens,hids,projectors etc ect

[hmmmnz]

hi guys,  i know there is a million topics on headlights on this forum, and ive sifted through a fair chunk of them,
but there doesnt seem to be a definitive answer to the fazers lighting woes.
and with winter commuting coming on, id like to get something sorted soonish.

hids....
projectors or normal h4 bulbs. 
if bulbs do i just go for a single high beam and a single dipped, or go for a dual bi-xenon.
same goes for a projector lens set up
what are the best ballasts to go for? 

can the system handle dual 55w running at the same time off the existing wiring?

halogens.
i guess this would just be a bulb upgrade,  can i also run dual hi/lo on these

leds....
replacement bulbs with drivers
extra spots on the bike??

arghhhh
so many options


im tempted to try out the leds with drivers  like this


but not to sure.

whats you guys opinion on the whole lighting situation?

cheers

.

[dazza]

My brother's just fitted a H4 LED in his Husky and I must say I was quite impressed with it. Very bright and doesn't draw as much current.
I would avoid HID's, cheap one's from China anyway.

[Paulfzs]

led h4s are shite.


led spotlights are mucho good.
hid bulbs are not bad
hid projectors are probably the way to go.

[Val]

One of the reasons I bought Foxeye 

Anyhow if I would you will just do the simple lights mod: http://foc-u.co.uk/?topic=181.0

And optionally can upgrade to good bulbs like halogen Philips X-treme Vision +130%.

LED are lemon. They give you many lumens, but the way the light is produced is wrong and your reflectors cannot reflect it properly.

HID - way too much bother and honestly the improvement above the mode with X-treme halogens is not too much. The price is ridicoulous.

my 2p 

[Frosties]

One of the reasons I bought Foxeye 

Anyhow if I would you will just do the simple lights mod: http://foc-u.co.uk/?topic=181.0

And optionally can upgrade to good bulbs like halogen Philips X-treme Vision +130%.

LED are lemon. They give you many lumens, but the way the light is produced is wrong and your reflectors cannot reflect it properly.

HID - way too much bother and honestly the improvement above the mode with X-treme halogens is not too much. The price is ridicoulous.

my 2p 

    And would also remove the metal piece of shite in the dipped beam. Do these simple, cheap mods and you'll have fucktons of extra light. Should take 2hrs tops and £25 tops. If you want more after that then at least you've bought some thinking time.

[hmmmnz]

right cheers guys, ill give that a go now.  and decide on bulbs later if its still not enough

[Frosties]

right cheers guys, ill give that a go now.  and decide on bulbs later if its still not enough

Buy the bulbs you tight arse    1 x H4 & 1 x H1

[sinto]

I've tried the Philips and the nightbreaker route and found them to be not much better than the standard bulb even with the dual mod.

I decided to put in HID, even with just the nearside at the moment it's far brighter and sharper. I will getting a H4 HID for the offside.

The first pic shows HID on nearside with a Orsam nightbreaker on the offside, second pic is the main beam switched on, so basically just the nightbreaker going full beam but as it's got the dual light mod it keeps the nearside HID on as well.

I've never had a problem with the HID'S and never been pulled for them even going towards police or being behind them.

[hmmmnz]

i wired up the other light to use both elements in the h4 bulb, and removed the cover on the h1.
to be honest, it made bugger all difference,  i was riding home last night doing 35mph on the country roads (60 limit) and really couldnt have gone any faster, as i couldnt see shit!!

ive ordered a set of hid bi xenon projectors (2" type, which should fit in the housing perfectly)

the main problem i think is the reflectors are in poor condition, 

my little bridgestone 200 with 6volt electrics has a better headlight than the fazer.
ill keep ya posted on the hids.. hopefully ill have them by the end of next week.

[sinto]

i wired up the other light to use both elements in the h4 bulb, and removed the cover on the h1.
to be honest, it made bugger all difference,  i was riding home last night doing 35mph on the country roads (60 limit) and really couldnt have gone any faster, as i couldnt see shit!!

Your right, it won't make any difference if your still using the standard bulbs
Makes a slight difference using Orsam nightbreakers or the Phillips equivalent but you'll get more light from HID bulbs if you get the right ones
Try and get a pic as they are now, and then when you change them and you'll see the difference, plus it's good for the forum people

[MillaFZS6H]

i wired up the other light to use both elements in the h4 bulb, and removed the cover on the h1.
to be honest, it made bugger all difference,  i was riding home last night doing 35mph on the country roads (60 limit) and really couldnt have gone any faster, as i couldnt see shit!!

Your right, it won't make any difference if your still using the standard bulbs
Makes a slight difference using Orsam nightbreakers or the Phillips equivalent but you'll get more light from HID bulbs if you get the right ones
Try and get a pic as they are now, and then when you change them and you'll see the difference, plus it's good for the forum people

I for one would like to see some comparison pics if poss. I am deliberating over which route to take with lights. which Hids to get and where from. On here people seem to rate HID4U. About £90 though i think. Anyone recently tried HiDs and found them reliable?

[sinto]

I for one would like to see some comparison pics if poss. I am deliberating over which route to take with lights. which Hids to get and where from. On here people seem to rate HID4U. About £90 though i think. Anyone recently tried HiDs and found them reliable?

I can only help with some pics I posted on this thread earlier.
Yes I know there's no before pics but tbh I think my camera flash would of been brighter

As far as what units to use....I've posted these somewhere on here before (another thread I'm sure) but thing to bare in mind is I bought mine many years ago for another bike and have installed them in various bikes since over the years with only having to change the bulb(s) to fit so I'm really  maybe not the person to help with that bit.

[hmmmnz]

ill get some before pics on my way home tomorrow, on a dark stretch of road,
honestly i doubt i can see much further than 30 meters.

i changed out the h4 for a phillips xtreme vision bulb that i had spare for the car,
they are excellent in the car,  but didnt make a blind bit of difference on the fazer

[sinto]

ill get some before pics on my way home tomorrow, on a dark stretch of road,
honestly i doubt i can see much further than 30 meters.

i changed out the h4 for a phillips xtreme vision bulb that i had spare for the car,
they are excellent in the car,  but didnt make a blind bit of difference on the fazer

That could be the reflectors, they're probably been worn from original bad to worse

[john 087]

i was trying to find out does the fazer 400 light fit the 600. myown headlight the reflector is not looking great. is it any better i rember reading it here some place and cant find it now.
Many Thanks.

[Bimbam]

Hi. I have done this :
http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,15814.msg204624.html#msg204624

[Frosties]

Having just bought a CBF1000 which hasn't had a bulb or wiring upgrade, it's made me realise just how bad the Fazer's are. The CBF is nudging car quality as standard 

[sinto]

Having just bought a CBF1000 which hasn't had a bulb or wiring upgrade, it's made me realise just how bad the Fazer's are. The CBF is nudging car quality as standard 

Yeah my mates honda crossrunner is the same but we still put in an HID to make it better
Glad you got your bike btw, saw it on other thread, looks smart

[Frosties]

Having just bought a CBF1000 which hasn't had a bulb or wiring upgrade, it's made me realise just how bad the Fazer's are. The CBF is nudging car quality as standard 

Yeah my mates honda crossrunner is the same but we still put in an HID to make it better
Glad you got your bike btw, saw it on other thread, looks smart

Cheers Sinto    It will still be getting upgraded bulbs all round and LED hand guards though - can't have too much light.

[sinto]

Having just bought a CBF1000 which hasn't had a bulb or wiring upgrade, it's made me realise just how bad the Fazer's are. The CBF is nudging car quality as standard 

Yeah my mates honda crossrunner is the same but we still put in an HID to make it better
Glad you got your bike btw, saw it on other thread, looks smart

Cheers Sinto    It will still be getting upgraded bulbs all round and LED hand guards though - can't have too much light.

Nope you sure cant, I've added lights to the front and an extra brake light at the rear, and that's bright as foc
I added led to my mates  handguards, they look awesome, gives that 'width' perception which is good, also added two led spots to his crash bars and one night we experimented with switching off his main lights and he was still able to see the road

[mobile mouse]

Hi,


Frosties pointed out that you should "remove the metal piece of shite in the dipped beam''.
And you get Fucktons of extra light.

Were is this piece of metal. I have a Foxeye Fazer do my headlights have the metal piece.
I have fitted Philips bulbs, I cannot remember which version. And would like to maximise them.
I have been looking at fitting additional relays and use heavy gauge cable to remove the volts drop from battery to bulb.

[sinto]

What the foc are you saying mouse?
Go on, let us know so we can help you

[mobile mouse]

Has anyone tried fitting additional relays and use heavy gauge cable to remove the volts drop from battery to bulb.
Does it work.....

[Paulfzs]

i had a spare 35w hid laying around...
i dont have a spare one anymore




12v 7ah battery inside, flickers like mad for about 10 seconds then heats up enough and starts

[sinto]

i had a spare 35w hid laying around...
i dont have a spare one anymore




12v 7ah battery inside, flickers like mad for about 10 seconds then heats up enough and starts

I thought you were taking the mick till I zoomed in on the pic and saw you actually put a hole in the lamp
So we now need pics of the actual light from it