New BMW

[lew600fazer]

Is it just me or is there someting of a familiar look about the new BMW.

[FazerMikai]

   

[noggythenog]

That BM looks more like the Gen 2 fazer I reckon.

& everything these days seems to be Tiger like.

but not this BM....with the smaller wheels and the front fairing it's defo fazerish......except the way they've stuck on the screen is saying "honest im not a fazer" look ive got a proper tourer type screen.

[BIG MAC]

Did someone call for BM?

[ChristoT]

Looks like a Multistrada to me.

[Deefer666]

[NorthWestern]

wowzers, I thought that WAS a multistrada when I saw it!

[stevierst]

I really like the look of that Beemer. Just a shame that the adventure bike genre don't quite ride like I'd like them to.

[BIG MAC]

I have a hankering for a Tedium right about now

[Exupnut]

I know what u mean mate.. The above post bored the fuck outta me aswell :-)

[lew600fazer]

BMW S 1000 XR 2015 | Specs, Price, Availability

So about £17,500 to £18,000 if it is targeted at at the Ducati Multistradia

Sorry if some find the post boring, suggestion, don't fucking read it then.

[ChristoT]

Sorry if some find the post boring, suggestion, don't fucking read it then.

Is that a chip on your shoulder, Lew?



 

[lew600fazer]

No Christo, Just saying as it is.

[Simon.Pieman]

 I rather like the look of this Minsk 250 (actually a re-badged Zongshen) The price is even more attractive -about £3200 on the road (complete with cases and warranty) As an adventure bike it makes sense -cheap, small engine, economical, over engineered ( ok, it's a bit heavy) and chinese engine bits are pretty easy to get hold anywhere thesedays.

[Deefer666]

I rather like the look of this Minsk 250 (actually a re-badged Zongshen)

You can wrap a turd in pretty paper and ribbons, but underneath its still a turd

[lew600fazer]

Jesus Simon I am getting stick about posting about a BMW at least that is a quality product not a cheap piece of chinese crap.

[locksmith]

Looks like they're all doing it

 http://www.yamaha-motor.eu/eu/products/motorcycles/mt/mt-09-tracer.aspx?view=featurestechspecs

[Simon.Pieman]

I rather like the look of this Minsk 250 (actually a re-badged Zongshen)

You can wrap a turd in pretty paper and ribbons, but underneath its still a turd

I've seen this engine in bikes all over SE Asia and it's bombproof mate. I've ridden one (badged a Liffen) 1,500 miles through Vietnam and another badged Zongshen 200cc variant for 2,500 miles around Thailand and into Indonesia. They are not perfect, but are just as reliable as anything else. Don't knock it until you've tried it mate.
 

[lew600fazer]

Lived and worked in Shanghai for 18 months (2009/11)overseeing the Construction of LNG Gas Carriers (ships) they were costing £210 million a ship. The build quality was that poor Llyods of London refused to insure them.
Sorry but the Chinese just do not do quality. The first load port refused to have them back again for six months until they came up to standard. The engine room was a death trap. It is only a matter of time before one of those ships has a major accident.
If we raised a complaint about an item of machinery installation nothing was done about. One of the Lloyds surveyors refused to pass an item. He was flown home with many injuries resulting from getting a good kicking. THe ships were eventually insured by ABS (American Bureau of Shipping) they will insure anything.
Anyway the post was about the BMW look alike Fazer not some Chinese copy of something else, because Simon that is all the Chinese do is COPY and us poor quality materails, how cold does it get in Vietnam/Thailand, bet there is not a lot of salt on the roads out there.

[Simon.Pieman]

Anyway the post was about the BMW look alike Fazer not some Chinese copy of something else, because Simon that is all the Chinese do is COPY and us poor quality materails, how cold does it get in Vietnam/Thailand, bet there is not a lot of salt on the roads out there.

Pardon me, but the japanese based their whole motorcycle industry on COPYING the British machines, if you don't like people copying other manufacturers then perhaps out of principle you should stop riding your Fazer.
 Most parts of the motorcycle you'll be riding in 10 years time will be made in China, so i guess you'll have to get used to it.

 

[noggythenog]

Looks like they're all doing it

 http://www.yamaha-motor.eu/eu/products/motorcycles/mt/mt-09-tracer.aspx?view=featurestechspecs

Who cares if they all look the same ish.....i think this will be a good bike.............but my question is........will you be trading in your MT09 to get one of these instead Locksmith?..........im only being selfish coz if that happens then ill have nore chance of a 2nd hand 09

[Hedgetrimmer]

Can't say I like any of em. Think I'll join Christo in the 80s/90s corner 

[lew600fazer]

Anyway the post was about the BMW look alike Fazer not some Chinese copy of something else, because Simon that is all the Chinese do is COPY and us poor quality materails, how cold does it get in Vietnam/Thailand, bet there is not a lot of salt on the roads out there.

Pardon me, but the japanese based their whole motorcycle industry on COPYING the British machines, if you don't like people copying other manufacturers then perhaps out of principle you should stop riding your Fazer. 
 Most parts of the motorcycle you'll be riding in 10 years time will be made in China, so i guess you'll have to get used to it.

Simon, bold statement back it up with facts.

I hope you are right that in 10 years time I will be riding a motorcycle, I am 66 now.

[lew600fazer]

In the 1950s Meguro entered racing and built its first twin cylindered design, the 651 cc (39.7 cu in) T1 "Senior" with a pre-unit parallel twin engine inspired by British practice and later the K-series "Stamina" model copied from the BSA A7, one of which Meguro had bought in 1953. Its quality and engineering was superior to the BSA^[3] and it was described by Edward Turner, one of Britain’s most talented motorcycle designers, as "too good to be true".[citation needed] For the first time, the Japanese motorcycle industry was seen as a threat.^[4] Its other models designed in collaboration with Kawasaki were entirely of Japanese design.
 
     Meguro raced the 500 cc overhead camshaft single cylinder model at the Asama Kazan speedway circuit in Tsumagoi, Gunma Prefecture.^[5] For many years, the company was only outsold by Honda.

<sup>The only bike I would say looks like a copy of a British bike is the Paralell twin Kawasaki which is similar to a Triumph Bonnie.

One of the most sucessful Britsh bikes of all time was the BSA Bantam. A design stolen from the German company DKM ? DKW</sup>

[Deefer666]

Can't say I like any of em. Think I'll join Christo in the 80s/90s corner 

That'll be the 3 of us in the corner then