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Changing fork oil on non adjustable fazer forks the lazy way
« on: 07 January 2024, 07:08:16 pm »
Hello
Changing the fork oil on a friends bike, as it hasn't been done for 10 years.   So I am going to remove the forks,from the bike.  Then I'm just going to let the oil drain with the forks upside down for a day or two.  The springs just come out, don't they?  As I don't fancy stripping the forks down. Then spary in some brake and clucth cleaner leave for a bit to evporate then maybe splash a bit of Isopropoly alcohol to clean the whole system out.
Or am I being stupid.

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Re: Changing fork oil on non adjustable fazer forks the lazy way
« Reply #1 on: 07 January 2024, 11:37:21 pm »
This may help:

Dump & Run Motorcycle Fork Oil Change: NonAdjustable Damping Rod Telescopic & Upside down Forks


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Re: Changing fork oil on non adjustable fazer forks the lazy way
« Reply #2 on: 11 January 2024, 11:26:01 am »
Hello, was there supposed to be a link leading else where?

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Re: Changing fork oil on non adjustable fazer forks the lazy way
« Reply #3 on: 11 January 2024, 01:23:53 pm »
Weird, the link is in the post when I hit "modify", but it's not appearing.

ADDENDUM: Ok, I've just looked and it seems that video is no longer available!

Just search for "Dump and Run Fork Oil Change" and you should find what you're looking for.
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Re: Changing fork oil on non adjustable fazer forks the lazy way
« Reply #4 on: 12 January 2024, 12:17:27 am »
Ah, the ducati fork one?  Ah the is a cartridge fork
Thank you
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Re: Changing fork oil on non adjustable fazer forks the lazy way
« Reply #5 on: 12 January 2024, 08:20:10 am »
see if that works

i found the Dave Moss videos on ergonomics very interesting, his analogy that you would never jump into a car with adjusting the driving position, yet we just jump onto bikes and expect our bodies to adapt was a very valid point and relatively simple steps to tailor the bike yo each rider.

hmmm same issue does not include the link in the message?

search you tube for Dave Moss or Dump & Run Motorcycle Fork Oil Change: NonAdjustable Damping Rod Telescopic & Upside down Forks
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Re: Changing fork oil on non adjustable fazer forks the lazy way
« Reply #6 on: 12 January 2024, 12:22:02 pm »
i found the Dave Moss videos on ergonomics very interesting, his analogy that you would never jump into a car with adjusting the driving position, yet we just jump onto bikes and expect our bodies to adapt was a very valid point and relatively simple steps to tailor the bike yo each rider.

Damn right!

I rode my bike for around 12 years adjusting my body position to fit the handlebars until I realised that I could adjust the handlebars to suit my body...!  :o

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Re: Changing fork oil on non adjustable fazer forks the lazy way
« Reply #7 on: 12 January 2024, 04:19:31 pm »
see if that works

i found the Dave Moss videos on ergonomics very interesting, his analogy that you would never jump into a car with adjusting the driving position, yet we just jump onto bikes and expect our bodies to adapt was a very valid point and relatively simple steps to tailor the bike yo each rider.

hmmm same issue does not include the link in the message?

search you tube for Dave Moss or Dump & Run Motorcycle Fork Oil Change: NonAdjustable Damping Rod Telescopic & Upside down Forks
Thank you, found it.

The greasing the fork seal seems to go against the grain.

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Re: Changing fork oil on non adjustable fazer forks the lazy way
« Reply #8 on: 12 January 2024, 04:26:29 pm »
i found the Dave Moss videos on ergonomics very interesting, his analogy that you would never jump into a car with adjusting the driving position, yet we just jump onto bikes and expect our bodies to adapt was a very valid point and relatively simple steps to tailor the bike yo each rider.

Damn right!

I rode my bike for around 12 years adjusting my body position to fit the handlebars until I realised that I could adjust the handlebars to suit my body...!  :o
My first bike was a vespa, no adjustability at all.  Then bending bars and going for renthals that have alsorts of shapes.

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Re: Changing fork oil on non adjustable fazer forks the lazy way
« Reply #9 on: 12 January 2024, 09:02:53 pm »
The greasing the fork seal seems to go against the grain.

The last time I replaced my fork seals, I bought Slinkyglide ones that came with a small sachet of lubricant to keep them moving smoothly.

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Re: Changing fork oil on non adjustable fazer forks the lazy way
« Reply #10 on: 16 January 2024, 06:36:41 am »
Make sure you get the oil level correct.
The forks without adjusters on the top take more oil than ones that do have them.
The air gap is the easier way to get the equal levels right on both sides.
I personally prefer 15W fork oil instead of the standard 10W, i found it a lot more stable.


98/99 models (without fork adjusters on top):
475cc oil 121mm air gap

00-03 models (with fork adjusters on top):
465cc oil 132mm air gap


My bike is a 2000 model but i swapped my forks with earlier model ones without the adjusters, so i have to remember to put the correct amount in each time.

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Re: Changing fork oil on non adjustable fazer forks the lazy way
« Reply #11 on: 16 January 2024, 10:15:38 pm »
Make sure you get the oil level correct.
The forks without adjusters on the top take more oil than ones that do have them.
The air gap is the easier way to get the equal levels right on both sides.
I personally prefer 15W fork oil instead of the standard 10W, i found it a lot more stable.


98/99 models (without fork adjusters on top):
475cc oil 121mm air gap

00-03 models (with fork adjusters on top):
465cc oil 132mm air gap


My bike is a 2000 model but i swapped my forks with earlier model ones without the adjusters, so i have to remember to put the correct amount in each time.


Thank you.

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Re: Changing fork oil on non adjustable fazer forks the lazy way
« Reply #12 on: 17 January 2024, 08:27:45 am »
Make sure you get the oil level correct.
The forks without adjusters on the top take more oil than ones that do have them.
The air gap is the easier way to get the equal levels right on both sides.
I personally prefer 15W fork oil instead of the standard 10W, i found it a lot more stable.


98/99 models (without fork adjusters on top):
475cc oil 121mm air gap

00-03 models (with fork adjusters on top):


Great information, thanks for posting this!
465cc oil 132mm air gap



My bike is a 2000 model but i swapped my forks with earlier model ones without the adjusters, so i have to remember to put the correct amount in each time.