Date: 16-04-24  Time: 06:31 am

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Ignition advancer
« on: 05 April 2015, 09:05:44 pm »
I put an ignition advancer on my R1 a while back, and it made quite a difference  with the lower and mid range torque.

I've also got a gen 1 for work/touring, and its got the full Monty Ivans kit on it. I'm sure I read somewhere that you can't put the I/A on if your ivanised.

Has anyone out there done it, and was it worth doing?
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Re: Ignition advancer
« Reply #1 on: 06 April 2015, 06:38:34 am »
Sure you can do it.  Works nicely, too. :)

Ivan, though, reckons that it increases vibes and gives no power increase at peak rpm.  However, the benefits are felt much lower down the rev range, which is why so many have done it despite his reservations.

I followed this route to save a few bob on the job: http://www.yamahafz1oa.com/eskortsadvancermod.shtml


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Re: Ignition advancer
« Reply #2 on: 06 April 2015, 08:04:56 am »
Thanks for the link and info Falcon. I'll get my vernier and files out.
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Re: Ignition advancer
« Reply #3 on: 06 April 2015, 09:31:00 am »
Had one on mine for years with a Ivans kit, pipercross air filter and blue flame end can. Does give much more midrange and seems to start much easier with it on.

And for the small cost I would just get one from eBay
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/YAMAHA-R1-FAZER-1000-CARB-MODELS-4-DEGREE-IGNITION-ADVANCER-ROTOR-YELLOW-ZINC-/161636305455?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item25a2464a2f

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Re: Ignition advancer
« Reply #4 on: 06 April 2015, 09:35:07 am »
I did mine years ago (eskorts mod) with an Ivans carb kit and is great at the bottom end.
Also agree it starts so much better as well.
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Re: Ignition advancer
« Reply #5 on: 06 April 2015, 10:46:07 am »
Have a look here for more discussion - http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,14249.0.html


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Re: Ignition advancer
« Reply #6 on: 06 April 2015, 10:24:21 pm »
I've done the eskort mod this afternoon. Took me about 1/2 hour.

I'll see how it rides tomorrow morning on the way to work.8)
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Re: Ignition advancer
« Reply #7 on: 07 April 2015, 10:10:24 am »
I've done the eskort mod this afternoon. Took me about 1/2 hour.

I'll see how it rides tomorrow morning on the way to work. 8)
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Re: Ignition advancer
« Reply #8 on: 07 April 2015, 11:08:13 am »
It was good! Felt a little more torque in the lower/mid range. Not a huge ammount, but enough to make it worthwhile for Bugger all cost 8)

Let's see how it affects the fuel useage.
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Re: Ignition advancer
« Reply #9 on: 07 April 2015, 12:31:27 pm »
I fitted one over the winter but hadn't had a chance to try it until yesterday, I did just over 200 miles up around Tydrum, Inverary then back down Loch Lomond side. The roll on acceleration is improved, come up behind a car, wait for a gap to overtake then woosh! Quite a bit crisper than before and i remember thinking how smooth the engine is on a cruising throttle.

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Re: Ignition advancer
« Reply #10 on: 07 April 2015, 12:55:40 pm »
Did you just follow the instructions in the link and do you have any other tips or suggestions. Just to with the advancer for as  I get all the suggestions I need from my wife on every other subject

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Re: Ignition advancer
« Reply #11 on: 07 April 2015, 02:20:11 pm »
I got an advancer off ebay which for 14 pounds inc delivery has been the best value mod I've done on my gen 1 02 model fzs1000.  I've noticed easier starting and it seems to have made an improvement in low/med range tractability - well worth the small amount of money!  I'd recommend it.
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Re: Ignition advancer
« Reply #12 on: 07 April 2015, 02:54:12 pm »
The measurements are quite tiny and precise, so unless you have a vernier caliper or suchlike then I'd be very careful. It's only 0.6mm of material to be removed, but it has to be right!
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Re: Ignition advancer
« Reply #13 on: 07 April 2015, 06:23:18 pm »
just bought one, will let you know when it comes  :)

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Re: Ignition advancer
« Reply #14 on: 07 April 2015, 07:40:45 pm »
Had a better ride on the way home as I wasn't carrying 1/2 ton of kit.

Erm, it's quite a bit better in the mid range tbh. It's now not just ballistic, but absolutely interstellar ballistic! Awesome mod!
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Re: Ignition advancer
« Reply #15 on: 07 April 2015, 08:42:00 pm »
hi all must agree a good mod bought mine off ebay the slot needed scraping a bit to fit but was easy make sure someones with you when you do the mod.

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Re: Ignition advancer
« Reply #16 on: 11 April 2015, 11:30:46 am »
hi all must agree a good mod bought mine off ebay the slot needed scraping a bit to fit but was easy make sure someones with you when you do the mod.


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Re: Ignition advancer
« Reply #17 on: 11 April 2015, 11:50:35 am »
to take the bolt off which is holding the advancer you need to put the bike in top gear and have someone holding the brakes on as the bolt is tight and will move the inner chain and the bike which also goes for the same when putting the new one on,hope this helps.

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Re: Ignition advancer
« Reply #18 on: 11 April 2015, 01:23:42 pm »
one of th 4 top mods along with ivans, R1 front end and R6 rear shock
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Re: Ignition advancer
« Reply #19 on: 11 April 2015, 05:47:00 pm »
just bought one, will let you know when it comes  :)
yes well worth £14 gives it just that bit more  :)

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Re: Ignition advancer
« Reply #20 on: 11 April 2015, 06:04:20 pm »
to take the bolt off which is holding the advancer you need to put the bike in top gear and have someone holding the brakes on as the bolt is tight and will move the inner chain and the bike which also goes for the same when putting the new one on,hope this helps.

It is possible to do it solo - I did mine by myself a while back. As you say into top gear. I put the bike on the side stand and sat on it, put a breaker bar on the nut and then stood on the rear brake as I lifted the breaker bar up towards me. Its awkward but once the bolt is moving it comes off no bother :)
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Re: Ignition advancer
« Reply #21 on: 11 April 2015, 06:20:07 pm »
I guess something through the back wheel against the swingarm would work instead of the back brake and being in gear?

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Re: Ignition advancer
« Reply #22 on: 11 April 2015, 07:31:38 pm »


It is possible to do it solo - I did mine by myself a while back. As you say into top gear. I put the bike on the side stand and sat on it, put a breaker bar on the nut and then stood on the rear brake as I lifted the breaker bar up towards me. Its awkward but once the bolt is moving it comes off no bother :)

Yep, I did mine exactly the same way, it's easily do-able if your careful.

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Re: Ignition advancer
« Reply #23 on: 11 April 2015, 08:55:12 pm »
Will I need a new gasket. I'm guessing it's just to keep water etc out

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Re: Ignition advancer
« Reply #24 on: 11 April 2015, 09:11:27 pm »
Will I need a new gasket. I'm guessing it's just to keep water etc out

I managed to change mine and re-use the old one, but they can tear when you remove them. if it does, then your better changing it (so maybe best to order one to be on the safe side?)