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Fine no worries - I see no point in further posting here today if you are just going to remove things YOU do not agree with.
By removing a few lines of text that is EXACTLY what you have done.
I have heard the "seat belt" one on the radio too. And I have heard it repeated loads of times from people repeating it as though it was their own.
Its apt that you should use the seatbelt metaphor because the same communities that we are referring to who are refusing the jab are also the same ones who repeatedly flout the seatbelt laws.
There will ALWAYS be a risk of new outbreaks, this is one virus that is not going away for a very long time. But surely being on a small island like ours, and with the undoubtedly fantastic vaccine programme that we had the privilege to be a part of, does it not make total sense to want to "keep it at bay" as much as possible?
Our main downfall will generally come from people bringing the virus in from outside of the UK, seeing as some countries are still in a right state and out of control
When I've been out on the roads I have seen people from all "communities" not wearing seatbelts, usng mobile phones and doing other dangerous things.
Quote from: darrsi on 13 June 2021, 11:53:25 amThere will ALWAYS be a risk of new outbreaks, this is one virus that is not going away for a very long time. But surely being on a small island like ours, and with the undoubtedly fantastic vaccine programme that we had the privilege to be a part of, does it not make total sense to want to "keep it at bay" as much as possible?We HAD that opportunity over a year ago!We have *repeatedly* had opportunities to keep it at bay, unfortunately some people were more concerned about their "freedoms" (or their profits!) and made decisions that have been derided as hindsight, often by the people who couldn't or wouldn't make the hard decisions. QuoteOur main downfall will generally come from people bringing the virus in from outside of the UK, seeing as some countries are still in a right state and out of control There are countries which are CRYING OUT for the vaccines which have been hogged by the rich countries who were patting themselves on the back for getting their orders in first and buying up huge stocks (more than their people could ever need). This contributes to them being in a "right state and out of control".
The Alpha variant originating in Kent led to our infection rate soaring, causing a second wave, which we 'exported' all round EuropeThere is no point us, or any other country pointing the finger. We're all in this together.
You can't knock us for "patting ourselves on the back" just because we got something right for a change? Would you prefer us to have not been ahead of the game and done things differently, and perhaps been at the back of the queue instead, because that would just not make any sense?
Quote from: darrsi on 14 June 2021, 05:43:30 amYou can't knock us for "patting ourselves on the back" just because we got something right for a change? Would you prefer us to have not been ahead of the game and done things differently, and perhaps been at the back of the queue instead, because that would just not make any sense? It's not an either/or situation.
Quote from: mtread on 13 June 2021, 11:27:32 pmThe Alpha variant originating in Kent led to our infection rate soaring, causing a second wave, which we 'exported' all round EuropeThere is no point us, or any other country pointing the finger. We're all in this together. We dont know it originated in this country or any other country, its just it was first detected in larger numbers in Kent. For all we know it could have come over on a rubber dingy from Calais or via Bristol/Berlin/Brighton/anywhere. This is one of the reasons that have now renamed it the Alpha variant and the "Indian variant" is now known as the Delta variant. Too much finger pointing and blaming other places.Personally, I stall blame the Chinese
Quote from: Grahamm on 14 June 2021, 09:51:45 amQuote from: darrsi on 14 June 2021, 05:43:30 amYou can't knock us for "patting ourselves on the back" just because we got something right for a change? Would you prefer us to have not been ahead of the game and done things differently, and perhaps been at the back of the queue instead, because that would just not make any sense? It's not an either/or situation.Meaning?
I'd have thought being the major funder of the AZ vaccine and part of the requirement being "at cost" and easier to store in hot countries makes the UK pretty charitable in the first place.We should be free to pat ourselves on the back for that.
“Put simply, vaccinations help reduce the chance of getting Covid, and in the unlikely event you do develop it, a reduced chance of going on to get Long Covid.”