Author Topic: Clutch judder (Read 7787 times)

Loz · « **on:** 21 June 2013, 08:28:07 pm »

Yes its me again with yet another question

, When my clutch is pulled in slowly it sort of judders, almost like its sticking, we have taken it out and checked it, it looks fine made sure its completely lubed up but made no difference, is it a normal trait of these bikes or should i look at a new clutch cable?

Falcon 269 · « **Reply #1 on:** 21 June 2013, 09:47:06 pm »

Not normal, no. If you're sure that the cable is free-moving and lubed, check the clutch lever pivot and then the actuating arm on top of the clutch housing.

My guess is that it's the cable, though ... they do get sticky with age if not properly cared for and I suspect the outer cable linings deteriorate with time.

solorider · « **Reply #2 on:** 21 June 2013, 10:00:12 pm »

over time the inner cable wears as it is plastic coated, water can then get in causing corrosion and you get a sticky action, also over time the clutch will get heavier but you wont notice it as it happens slowly, disconnecting the cable wont show any problems as it will in most cases only show under load, lubricating wont work as the cable is plastic coated.

Loz · « **Reply #3 on:** 22 June 2013, 07:31:41 am »

Thanks very much all, new cable ordered

marcusfordus · « **Reply #4 on:** 22 June 2013, 07:57:08 am »

Quote from: Loz on 22 June 2013, 07:31:41 am

Thanks very much all, new cable ordered

I hope it's not too late, but don't order a pattern cable, total waste of money (as I found last week). Go get the proper Yamaha one.

They really are premier league in operation compared to the copies out there. Now if anyone actually want's one of these I have one sat in the packet tried for two minutes before swapping it over for the genuine article

red98 · « **Reply #5 on:** 22 June 2013, 12:00:47 pm »

yep...i have the same problem with mine....only slight at the moment but will need doing

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thanks for the tip marcusfordus

steeeve66 · « **Reply #6 on:** 22 June 2013, 12:08:52 pm »

Quote from: marcusfordus on 22 June 2013, 07:57:08 am

Quote from: Loz on 22 June 2013, 07:31:41 am
Thanks very much all, new cable ordered

I hope it's not too late, but don't order a pattern cable, total waste of money (as I found last week). Go get the proper Yamaha one.

They really are premier league in operation compared to the copies out there. Now if anyone actually want's one of these I have one sat in the packet tried for two minutes before swapping it over for the genuine article

X2 - don't get the pattern one, absolute waste of money. The OE is pricey but way better.

Loz · « **Reply #7 on:** 22 June 2013, 06:05:36 pm »

Damn only just read it, already ordered and despatched

ahh well you live and learn at least when its crap i'll know its not anything i have done!!

Loz · « **Reply #8 on:** 27 June 2013, 07:24:43 am »

Cheer one fitted! and yep absolutely no difference at all ....damn !

red98 · « **Reply #9 on:** 27 June 2013, 09:40:11 am »

Quote from: Loz on 27 June 2013, 07:24:43 am

Cheer one fitted! and yep absolutely no difference at all ....damn !

out of interest LOZ......price and makers name for the cheap one ?....anyone know how much for a yam one ?

Hedgetrimmer · « **Reply #10 on:** 27 June 2013, 06:31:29 pm »

Last time I looked, and this was a few years ago, Yamaha wanted about 70, yes, seventy quid for a gen 1 thou cable!

Loz · « **Reply #11 on:** 27 June 2013, 08:25:00 pm »

Red98.....it was a TSX from a company called AW motorcycle off eBay and it was £15.99

red98 · « **Reply #12 on:** 28 June 2013, 07:37:36 am »

Quote from: Loz on 27 June 2013, 08:25:00 pm

Red98.....it was a TSX from a company called AW motorcycle off eBay and it was £15.99

thanks LOZ...and thanks NICK CRISP for the yam price

....see why you went for the cheap one.....surprised you did`nt feel any inprovement with the replacement cable ...

Loz · « **Reply #13 on:** 28 June 2013, 08:02:13 am »

So was I, expected at least a small improvement, there is the chance that it's not the cable at all, it all works fine just feels weird so will probably leave it for now, just hate not knowing what's wrong

PieEater · « **Reply #14 on:** 28 June 2013, 09:07:02 am »

I've found an incorrectly adjusted chain can cause the kind of judders you describe, maybe worth checking.

red98 · « **Reply #15 on:** 28 June 2013, 09:13:27 am »

Quote from: Loz on 28 June 2013, 08:02:13 am

just hate not knowing what's wrong

i know exactly what you mean

Loz · « **Reply #16 on:** 28 June 2013, 10:42:23 am »

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I've found an incorrectly adjusted chain can cause the kind of judders you describe, maybe worth checking.

Dont think its that, the clutch was like it when i got the bike and i have fitted new chain and sprocket since and the chain tension has been checked but local mechanic too, just because it wasnt as straight forward as usual to get the tension right (huge difference between being on centre stand and being sat on it )

Hedgetrimmer · « **Reply #17 on:** 28 June 2013, 08:11:41 pm »

OK, forgive me for crap terminology, but I'm gettin' old...lever on clutch cover - shaft - the shaft runs in a bearing if I remember rightly - corroded bearing?

Hedgetrimmer · « **Reply #18 on:** 28 June 2013, 08:40:52 pm »

Addendum to the above...or worn/dry bearing/shaft? Worn or dry oil seal that the shaft goes through? Might need a clean up and a good dab of grease? I take it the clutch lever (handlebar end) pivot is not worn and is greased sufficiently?

red98 · « **Reply #19 on:** 29 June 2013, 09:49:33 am »

good points nick...worth checking

Hedgetrimmer · « **Reply #20 on:** 01 July 2013, 08:40:50 pm »

Checked these yet Loz? Start with the clutch lever pivot pin (h/bar end). I've had this before, the pin gets flats worn on it, giving you the jerkiness you describe. My money's on this, so it's probably cheap and easy to deal with.

Loz · « **Reply #21 on:** 01 July 2013, 08:47:53 pm »

Being of the female variety I have not got a clue

I will ask OH when he gets in from flying, and answer this, I am sure it's one of the things he said but in this house it's definitely a 'blue' job

Will get back to you within the hour

Loz · « **Reply #22 on:** 01 July 2013, 08:56:31 pm »

Ok, he has returned.... He is actually quite excited, he hadn't actually thought of that, so thanks I will let you know if it works

Hedgetrimmer · « **Reply #23 on:** 01 July 2013, 11:57:07 pm »

Oh, just checked the full thread, Mike has already mentioned this, so credit to him if it works! Sorry Mike!

Loz · « **Reply #24 on:** 02 July 2013, 06:13:02 am »

I am sorry too, I must have missed that one ! Oh is going to look after work tonight