Fazer Owners Club - Unofficial
Bikes, Hints'n'Tips => For Sale & Wanted => Topic started by: Loz on 22 November 2014, 08:00:41 pm
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Decided to sell my beautiful FZS 1000, 54 Reg, approx 19500 miles. As you can see from the picture i have put a lot into this bike, apart from what you can see it has the R6 shock and Ivans jet kit, needs for nothing, located in Poole, Dorset. £3200 ono.
(http://i956.photobucket.com/albums/ae48/lozhavoc/faz4_zpsab29da01.jpg)
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Dont do it Loz.....
At least tell us that youre staying a biker.....come on........., far too few females biking without another throwing in the towel.
Forget the grankids, & holidays and go get The full monte.
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Not a chance :eek , its a long story and as much as i loved the Fazer i have been smitten by another :rolleyes I have a nasty shoulder problem and really need to be sat completely upright, i test rode a GS 1200 today and loved it
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i test rode a GS 1200 today and loved it
Nooooooooooooooooooooo.......
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lol I know it shocked me too, really wasnt expecting to like it one bit :rolleyes before today i really wanted a Multistrada, unfortunately it also required me needing much longer legs ;)
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if buying your GS from a dealer I may be interested in a three way - trade in my 58 plate FZ6 so you would trade your Fazer in and I could do the deal on it ...just a thought.
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A 1200GS will never be as reliable as any Fazer, :eek why not just fit higher bars. :)
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, i test rode a GS 1200 today and loved it
I sincerely hope it was not the new Water cooled GS ! It will deffo end in tears if so.
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Why is that? :eek
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There has been a lot of issues with new BMW's, a friend has two and will opt to pay for extra warranty if he owns them outside of the normal warranty.
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Never have a bmw without a warranty...
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Loz.......i was gonna suggest ill swap you for my Gen2 08....,but seeing as your issue is pain then that is t really advisable.
However...
May i suggest that you consider a smaller number such as a 600 or even the mighty MT07 which i fancy.....stay Jap and go small......with a smaller engined and smaller weighted bike will also come lighter handling and less hustling......thus less shoulder pressure.
In an ideal world the pro rider will put minimal pressure on their shoulders as they will have that cupping a daddylonglegs grip on the bars and use their weight and extreme skill and all that good shit.
But back in the real world then the rest of us will be forcing the bars too much and putting extra strain on the shoulders...it is easy done....i am honest enough to admit that i do it on my gen2 although im getting better but seriously you're a girl and so you've probably already got slightly less muscle mass & weight than a bloke of simillar stature and if you're doing the same as me then you'll feel it in the muscles.
Mr Crisp has a dodgy shoulder and he swears that the gen 1 fazer thou is the best for him ergonomically........perhaps he is denying himself the pleasures of the GS also but i think he generally hates that type of bike.
But relibility must come into it a bit.......your husband is gonna be a busy man on your GS by the sounds of things and even then it'll be off to the workshop...(how close is your nearest BMW dealer?)
Anyway you've got a nice bike there....dont regret flogging it....try some risers or Renthals, or try a smaller bike.
At the end of the day it might be an irrational urge that you have...maybe you already know that and dont give a foc.......in which case just tell us to foc off and cough up the dosh :lol
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I know what you are saying, i also have a 650 V Strom, so i know the position is right for me, but i have always had power bikes, its not about the max speed but the power delivery that does it for me. The GS is the only one i have ridden that has the power i like with the position i need and its actually not heavy its just like the v strom to be honest. Everything else in that catagory is either way to tall or way too heavy for me.
I am completely aware that i will probably regret selling it, and beleive me if i could finance this move without selling it i would :rolleyes
As for the BMW reliability, i have done my research and a few years ago i would have agreed and you all have permission to say 'i told you so' if it all goes pear shaped :'(
I do appreciate you're concern though :)
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Fair points loz
I think we need to respect that you are selling it regardless.
So good luck with the sale.....hey at least you got a few free bumps :)
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Good luck with your sale Loz, as the 'competition' I feel your pain lol, I've just got a BMW R1200RT LC lol :rollin
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Loz what do you think to my idea?
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Tbh i didnt really understand it Big Mac lol, how can you px a bike you don't own? its also i bit more complicated than you think, as firstly i also have to sell my V Strom and havent yet decided whether i am going new or used yet, sorry i didnt respond to you're initial question i didnt realise you were serious because i didnt understand it :)
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I think he wants to trade his bike (the S2) against yours (the FZS1000) and then you trade his bike (now your bike) against the GS :lol :lol
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I didn't understand it either, I was going to ask Big Mac to fill out one of these
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I didn't understand it either, I was going to ask Big Mac to fill out on of these
:lol
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Never have a bmw without a warranty...
I have had my R1200RT for almost two years (from new) and never had a single issue with it. It is every bit as reliable as my FZS1000.
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Never have a bmw without a warranty...
I have had my R1200RT for almost two years (from new) and never had a single issue with it. It is every bit as reliable as my FZS1000.
Your comparing a brand new specification BMW with low miles? with an old specification Yamaha with high miles?;
Interesting comparsion :lol
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if buying your GS from a dealer I may be interested in a three way - trade in my 58 plate FZ6 so you would trade your Fazer in and I could do the deal on it ...just a thought.
Can't u FOCCERS read??? He wants to know the dealer that Loz will trade the bike with if it don't sell so he can do a deal with his Fz6 for the thou. DOH!
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Well done Exupnut - go to the top of the class.
For the rest of you ...no he doesn't stand on the schoolhouse roof
The advantage being that the dealer gets two sales so he is moving metal, he replaces a 54 plate bike with a 58 (and a sweet one) on his forecourt. This may make them more amenable to a deal on the BMW also...simples...well for those of us with English as a first language! :pokefun
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Typical canny scot :lol
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This is why want Big Mac wants to do does not make since :rolleyes
If Big Mac really wants Loz's FZS1000, he would be better off doing a deal with Loz as this prevents the risk of the dealer having a buyer lined for the FZS1000, especially one in the condition this one is in and extras it has, or have it shifted through the trade quickly.
Plus the dealer will always give the standard value regardless of extras.
08 FZ6 S2 and 04 Fzs1000 are around the same money, and as Big Mac himself suggests a 08 looks better on the forecourt than a 04 especially with 2015 so close.
Many larger dealers shift 10 years and older bikes through the trade and come 2015 the Fzs1000 will be bordering on 11 years old.
Surprised that a Scot would want to give a dealer more money :lol
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He ain't got enuff moolah or i spose e wood
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I have a nasty shoulder problem and really need to be sat completely upright, i test rode a GS 1200 today and loved it
Since owning my fazer 1000 (which is only 12months) I have enflamed an old injury in my shoulder and it's down to the seating and reach to the bars, the position is totally different to wot I'm use to (zrx's and xjr's) so mine will also be up for sale so, they are a great bike, but like urself need to be comfy (as I can't take another yr like the last one...... :\)
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This is why want Big Mac wants to do does not make since :rolleyes
If Big Mac really wants Loz's FZS1000, he would be better off doing a deal with Loz as this prevents the risk of the dealer having a buyer lined for the FZS1000, especially one in the condition this one is in and extras it has, or have it shifted through the trade quickly.
Plus the dealer will always give the standard value regardless of extras.
08 FZ6 S2 and 04 Fzs1000 are around the same money, and as Big Mac himself suggests a 08 looks better on the forecourt than a 04 especially with 2015 so close.
Many larger dealers shift 10 years and older bikes through the trade and come 2015 the Fzs1000 will be bordering on 11 years old.
Surprised that a Scot would want to give a dealer more money :lol
My problem is that if i buy privately i need the cash and if i buy from my dealer he will outsource any bike that isnt a BMW anyway, if that situation happens i will let you know :) also i am in Poole and i assume from the thread that BigMac is in Scotland??
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He's in Portsmouth...the scots kicked him out fer Eatin all the haggis fat bastid
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Bump Really hoped it would be snapped up here, going on ebay this weekend :(
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New bike has arrived....Poor baby has has to move out into the cold :eek
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Never have a bmw without a warranty...
I have had my R1200RT for almost two years (from new) and never had a single issue with it. It is every bit as reliable as my FZS1000.
Your comparing a brand new specification BMW with low miles? with an old specification Yamaha with high miles?;
Interesting comparsion :lol
That'll be because, on here anyway, the Fazer is the benchmark for most. Also, I have had the Fazer for almost eight years so it has the longer track record with me and if the BMW is a good to me has my FZS1000 has been then I will be a very happy man. As three bikes won't fit into my garage I sold my '98 VFR800 when I picked up the RT - now that bike was a legend!
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As for the BMW reliability, i have done my research and a few years ago i would have agreed.
I'm afraid your actually incorrect the previous twin cam engine bikes are the best, especially the twin cam gs.
When it comes to reliability i take it you no all the problems that the new water cooled gs has !
1-Corrosion issues on brand new bikes, resulting in replacement engines due to corrosion after 2k
2-Faulty ESA units, resulting in harsh suspension.
3-faulty switch gear.
4-cam chain lock up, results in replacement engine.
5-early 13 bikes panniers did not fit, BMW bodge was to fit penny washer under the rear hangers, however some bikes had to have new rear subframes.
6-early 13 bikes frames with misaligned steering.
7-rear brake pads down to metal in 2k, still ongoing problem
8-rough clunking gearbox even after several fixes its still the same.
9-brand new bikes leaking water out of water pump hole, one particular bike had to have a new engine because of this and the reason why they could not fix it was the crank case was porous.
10- clutch drag .
Thats just 10 issues and there's plenty more problems as well.
Reason why ! Because 70% of the manufacturing of components on the new generation bikes especially the GS water cooled are sourced from china .
You will have to be very brave buying into the gs wc blind folded.
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I'm afraid your actually incorrect the previous twin cam engine bikes are the best, especially the twin cam gs.
When it comes to reliability i take it you no all the problems that the new water cooled gs has !
1-Corrosion issues on brand new bikes, resulting in replacement engines due to corrosion after 2k
2-Faulty ESA units, resulting in harsh suspension.
3-faulty switch gear.
4-cam chain lock up, results in replacement engine.
5-early 13 bikes panniers did not fit, BMW bodge was to fit penny washer under the rear hangers, however some bikes had to have new rear subframes.
6-early 13 bikes frames with misaligned steering.
7-rear brake pads down to metal in 2k, still ongoing problem
8-rough clunking gearbox even after several fixes its still the same.
9-brand new bikes leaking water out of water pump hole, one particular bike had to have a new engine because of this and the reason why they could not fix it was the crank case was porous.
10- clutch drag .
Thats just 10 issues and there's plenty more problems as well.
Reason why ! Because 70% of the manufacturing of components on the new generation bikes especially the GS water cooled are sourced from china .
You will have to be very brave buying into the gs wc blind folded.
Blimey mate, i only wanted to sell my bike didnt expect any of this!! The GS was picked up Sat and yes it is the WC one :rolleyes some of the issues you mention i was aware of and some i wasnt, i spose at least i now know what to look out for ;)
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Dare I ask, how is the k1600 for issues.
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Dare I ask, how is the k1600 for issues.
Don't no, I'm afraid i have no interest in the k16.
But the gs ws ! I speak from experience, not one but two lemons in 12 months second one went back for a refund after having a replacement engine, i should have kept the Fazer !
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Oh dear. I am considering 3 at the mo" looking at something with more weather protection.
FJR, TROPHY SE, K1600.
FJR is like a comfy lazy fazer ( so is it worth changing)
Trophy seems very big and,wide with very upright seating position ( maybe a step too far)
K1600 I haven't ridden but it sounds gorgeous ( need a test ride)
GTR1400 has been suggested but reviews aren't great.
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Well done Exupnut - go to the top of the class.
For the rest of you ...no he doesn't stand on the schoolhouse roof
The advantage being that the dealer gets two sales so he is moving metal, he replaces a 54 plate bike with a 58 (and a sweet one) on his forecourt. This may make them more amenable to a deal on the BMW also...simples...well for those of us with English as a first language! :pokefun
surely it would work more in foccin favour if lozenges were to find out the trade in value of both the thought and for against the gs, then swap the thought for the fun plus cash difference.
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If you are in no rush to sell i am looking to move up from my trusty 6 to a 1000 in a few months time as i am currently off work sick. I have an 03 Mille which will be sold as i prefer Fazers above everything else ?