I think even the most hardened remainers agree that the EU is not all perfect.
Quote You hear that mtread ? I'm the referee.....that means, I'm the good so I get to be Clint Eastwood. Dazza, You might be Clint Eastwood though, he's a friend of Trump.
You hear that mtread ? I'm the referee.....that means, I'm the good so I get to be Clint Eastwood.
Quote from: YamFazFan on 07 January 2019, 08:31:40 pmYou often hear The EU saying how The UK can't just cherry pick all the good bits of membership (or words to that effect).That must mean there's some crap as well then?.I think even the most hardened remainers agree that the EU is not all perfect. But they think somehow they can improve it with their 9.7% influence. There is no changing the EU, leavers have woken up to this fact.
You often hear The EU saying how The UK can't just cherry pick all the good bits of membership (or words to that effect).That must mean there's some crap as well then?.
The EU is an almost never ending project towards creating a European super-state and all that entails.
Some people are happy with that. I'm not.
One thing's for sure. They're right hacked off that we're getting out of it all.
If you mean the EU
QuoteThe EU is an almost never ending project towards creating a European super-state and all that entails.That’s just meaningless rhetoric. In any case the EU is never going to become a super state. And if you want to guarantee that such a fantasy never happens, well stay in so you can veto what will never be proposed.
Quote from: VNA on Today at 10:08:56 PM<blockquote>Quote<blockquote>The EU is an almost never ending project towards creating a European super-state and all that entails.</blockquote>That’s just meaningless rhetoric. In any case the EU is never going to become a super state. And if you want to guarantee that such a fantasy never happens, well stay in so you can veto what will never be proposed. </blockquote>It is pretty much the stated direction of the EU with integration deepening. Junker wants a bigger EU budget and his dream is to have a directly-elected president of the EU.In his recent state of the union speech Junker appealed to MEPs and heads of government to give the EU the powers and characteristics traditionally restricted to states.The EU wants its own foreign policy with decisions made on the basis of a qualified majority vote in which the will of 55% of member states would win the day. So our so called "veto" is an impotent joke. And path to a superstate is not one leap that can be vetoed but a series of smaller steps leading to the final goal. Even Juncker himself has conceded that the EU was “imperfect”. « Last Edit: Today at 11:00:58 PM »
she will have a complete breakdown.
Just to lighten it up a bit
So if we want a trade deal but be outside of the EU, we go from 9.7% to 0%.
Whoever could have imagined at the inception of the EEC that we would be where we are now?.
If that's what you're happy with fair enough. Not all of us are though. We had a referendum on it and it was rejected.
I was watching Mrs May on the TV tonight and listening to her, not just what she was saying, but her tone and watching her mannerisms, I predict if she fails and I sadly believe she will (She has very few supporters where it matters) she will have a complete breakdown.Like a lamb to the slaughter.
The trowth is tha youse dinnae ken whit youse want. But youse dae need somewan tae wyte. And youse will wyte whom ye huv been telt tae wyte.
Me or you shooting off your/my big mouth and falling out with each other
Don't you just love rhetoric, hot air and second guessing. Me or you shooting off your/my big mouth and falling out with each other will not make one jot or tittle of difference.As the old saying goes 'Opinions are like Arseholes everybody has got one' and we are all different in our similarities.I was watching Mrs May on the TV tonight and listening to her, not just what she was saying, but her tone and watching her mannerisms, I predict if she fails and I sadly believe she will (She has very few supporters where it matters) she will have a complete breakdown.Like a lamb to the slaughter.
As VNA said, if you want all the same trade agreements with the EU as before, you need to join a Customs Union with them, either within or outside of the EU. Whichever it is you need to accept a bunch of rules, otherwise don't join, or leave the club if you don't like the rules and join another club where you do like the rules, there is a much bigger club called WTO.
Quote from: tommyardin on 08 January 2019, 12:01:13 amDon't you just love rhetoric, hot air and second guessing. Me or you shooting off your/my big mouth and falling out with each other will not make one jot or tittle of difference.As the old saying goes 'Opinions are like Arseholes everybody has got one' and we are all different in our similarities.I was watching Mrs May on the TV tonight and listening to her, not just what she was saying, but her tone and watching her mannerisms, I predict if she fails and I sadly believe she will (She has very few supporters where it matters) she will have a complete breakdown.Like a lamb to the slaughter. Yep more pearls of wisdom from the Bard Of The Bricks Keep them coming
a much bigger club called WTO
Quote a much bigger club called WTOWhich is a bit like standing in the street, when the bouncers have chucked you out of the other clubs because you're too pissed to know what you're doing